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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: seema_17

i really respect what hijab stands for, like the actual belief behind the practice...

This may sound sarcastic but I dont mean to be rude at all - what is the belief behind this practice? I didnt come across any references in all the posts in this thread. Till now I hade a vague idea that purdah in muslims stems from the same feeling of showing respect like ghunghat in hindus.
Is there any religious significance as well?

Originally posted by: Aparna_BD

Now , i have understood that different Muslim countries ask their women to cover up in different ways , there are restriction in different ways and in different limits . Some of the Muslim Countries are forward towards their women - example Pakistan ,Iraq , Jordan ,Indonesia ,Malaysia ,Morroco etc etc. While some are very traditional - example - Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan ,Iran etc.
Now after reading biographies / autobiographies from wome n who have lived among oppression from men - example honeymoon in purdah( Iran) ,All the Jean Sasson books(Princess ,Princess Sultana daughter etc....based in Saudi Arabia), My Forbidden Face (Story in Afghanistan),Price of Honor ,Reading Lolita in Tehran etc etc .....these were some of the books that give me insight on women's view on purdah .

Even I am curious about the practices in other islamic countries. I have seen professionals in Malaysia and most of them wear head scarves and in no way is it a deterrent. And even I remeber reading a book about an american lady married to an Iranian; and her descriptions of the purdah system there. (Called the 'chador') Is was rather depressing.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: seema_17

hey guyz dun kill me for my opinion.... but i realy hate it when ppl do it for their convenience and call it religion.... yea i h8 tht 2...those ppl make other ppl hu practice it luk bad and its a lot harder 4 us 2 xplain 2 others. like i know many girls from my skool who wear hijab becuz they think they look better with it and then they wear deep necklined tops and skirts...dats hypocracy like i feel bad when i see that... becuz even if it is not my religion, i really respect what hijab stands for, like the actual belief behind the practice... i have seen these same girls flirting so much with guys and doing all kinds of stuff... and one day they wear it another day they take it off... so is it like, that its ok if the guys see their on one day buts its wrong if guys see their hair on another day this pisses me off da most..cuz wen grlz du dat ppl come up 2 me and go ok wen can i c ur hair (if its a guy i say never.lol) and den der like ohh but dat grl dusnt wear it everyday so u can take it off 2 and c'mon tell me wats rong wif dat abd blah blah... i feel that if u r following religion its very good but don't just use it for ur convenience and put it aside when u want to... thats what i think.... and i agree with paki princessthannk 4 agreeing... if it is by choice then u would enjoy it 😊

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mist

This may sound sarcastic but I dont mean to be rude at all - what is the belief behind this practice? I didnt come across any references in all the posts in this thread. Till now I hade a vague idea that purdah in muslims stems from the same feeling of showing respect like ghunghat in hindus.
Is there any religious significance as well? yes..it dus have religious significance. in da Quran, God told us 2 wear it and der r other Hadiths and stuff abt it...but the topic was abt wat we fealt abt it so i didnt get 2 in2 it..if ur interested i can post articles here

Even I am curious about the practices in other islamic countries. I have seen professionals in Malaysia and most of them wear head scarves and in no way is it a deterrent. yea for many women headscarf dusnt prevent dem frm doing nethingAnd even I remeber reading a book about an american lady married to an Iranian; and her descriptions of the purdah system there. (Called the 'chador') Is was rather depressing.its wen ppl take it 2 an extreme and misunderstand it 2 make it painful dat it bcumz bad

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Posted: 19 years ago
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I was watching this programme on T.V about Polygamy and reading a book called " wives and daughters . In Utah there is a certain sect called the Mormon sect(Prophet of the true and living church ) that practices polygamy a lot , even now.Its being openly being practised inspite of it being illegal in the U.S !!

Its shocking how men use "polygamy" as a mean to suppress a woman and feel power over her. They justify it as men have needs and need more than 1 woman in their life , so the need for polygamy . But the woman don't need mens love as much , what they feel the need for is children and men happen to be "sperm banks".

How degrading is polygamy !!!!???!!!! A womans emotions don't seem to be considered here !!! In the programme Mormon women who are in polygamous relationship said they had no right to be jealous of the other wives ???!!??
But while men can be jealous of their wives with other men ????? There is a schedulal made for the women as to who will the husband spend the night with !! Its like the man must have all the fun ...........but the woman must wait to have fun when her turn comes in the weekly rooster ???!!???

The programme interviewed women and men in polygamous relationship who exolted polygamy .One woman said "i can't see my sister denied a honorable relationsip and children by being a jealous selfish person " While ex- polygamist described the abuse women face in these relationships.

They interviewed a polygamous man with 4 wives who said he needed to keep "disclipne in his house with his 4 wives " . This was to make sure that one wife doesn't feel more superior than the other .
Isn't it a shame , when in a marriage a man feels he has the right to "disclipne" his wife ???

The children seemed to be brainwashed by their fathers to believe polygamy is the right way !!

Frankly their is no justification for polygamy in any religon !!!!!!!!
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Posted: 19 years ago
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OMG aparna di i agreefrm ur decsription, tht is sooo bad.....the men MISINTERPRET the meaning and purpose of it and use it to their ADVANTAGE....this is wrong and there is NO JUSTIFICATION for it

PS thanx 4 bringing baq this topic
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Posted: 19 years ago
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great topic Aparna... I have a lot to say on this..but will do so later!!...

coz i have a lot of catching up to do with my studies!! 😭
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Dear aparna, In islam a man is allowed to marry 4 times bt under several restrictions n wid lots of responsibilites n he is answerable b4 ALLAH for da rights of his wives n as far as perdah is concerned perda means a woman shd cover her head n her body n u can do dat wid chaddar or burqa or scraf or wateva u lyk bt yes , purdah is compulsory n it is 4 da benefit of da women n all those muslim women who observe perdah I appreciate them bt perdah means proper perdah nt jus wearing scarf for da sake of fashion as in Islam women rnt allowd to wear see through or v tight clothes, as neeyaton ka haal ALLAHMIYAN janty hain .
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: MS.ATTITUDE

Dear aparna, In islam a man is allowed to marry 4 times bt under several restrictions n wid lots of responsibilites n he is answerable b4 ALLAH for da rights of his wives n as far as perdah is concerned perda means a woman shd cover her head n her body n u can do dat wid chaddar or burqa or scraf or wateva u lyk bt yes , purdah is compulsory n it is 4 da benefit of da women n all those muslim women who observe perdah I appreciate them bt perdah means proper perdah nt jus wearing scarf for da sake of fashion as in Islam women rnt allowd to wear see through or v tight clothes, as neeyaton ka haal ALLAHMIYAN janty hain .



Yes i am aware of what the religon says - Islam and Mormon Christians both. As i have read several books on the subject .

But we know in todays stressfull life it is impossible to do justice to a marriage if you have more than one woman/man in your marriage . A couple work hard together to meet their financial needs and also emotional needs . While a man in a polygamous relationship can not be fair to either of the woman he has taken in as his bride . A polygalous relationship is all fun for a man ............but is very unfair on a woman . Why must a woman share her husband , emotionally , physically , financially with other women ?

Imagine a man that doesn't have a seperate quarter to give his wives , and they all have to share one room or one house . How much will a woman apperciate her husband being intimate with his other wife ??

How many Muslim women will come out and say honestly( not for the sake of winning an argument please) that they look forward to marriage with a man that will never be theirs 100% ........but may be 50% , 34% , or 25% only (depending on how many wives that man has).

Why must a woman wait for her turn on the nightly rooster when her husband will come and spend the night with her every 5th night, when her turn comes ???? Doesn't she have physical , emotional needs just like the man ?

A woman is a very senstive , emotional being , why must she endure her man giving love to another woman .

It is said that a man in a polygamous relationship must be equal and fair to all his wife and if he is not he has to answer to Allah .Yes, i am aware of that so this can not be used as a justification as it doesn't work in reality !!
But human being by nature can not help being just a little partial towards even their one of the children , so how can one expect that the man will be 100% impartial to all his wife where giving "love" is concerned. A mother that has 4 kids , she can't help favouring one of them , as he is weaker , or very bright or for some reason . So how can a man be fair to all his wives in reality ?????

Isn't polygamy a method to subjugate woman ??? Shouldn't it be outlawed as this rule favours only men ...........not women at all ??

Any Muslim gal out there , plz be honest to your self and tell us are you looking forward to being one of the 3rd or 4th wife of a man ???

How does polygamy benifit a woman ??? I can see how much it benifits a man though.

Hope i didn't upset any one . But i am a feminist and feel no law, religous rule should be there that hurts or subjugates women.

Whether we are talking about sati , dowry,ghunghat ,purdah or polygamy or the talq that can be given easily,or honor killing etc etc . All of these don't benifit women ......they only benifit men in the society.

We , women should stand together and challenge any law or religous belief that benifits only man and subjugates a woman.
Edited by Aparna_BD - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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👏 Aparna...too good! I totally agree with you. I am not a Muslim, but honestly, forget husband ...even if I had to share a boyfriend or just someone I love and not committed too it would upset me and vice versa for guys. Then why men can have more than one wife became popular and panchali having more than one husband didn't get popular!!!! Probably that's 'coz men wants to rule!
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Posted: 19 years ago
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***deleted as I clicked twice and content was same ***
Edited by sowmyaa - 19 years ago

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