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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Resurrected.

Of course life moves on, it moves on even when people around us die. Of course, this is not the end of the world. Of course, things are ephemeral. But why stop there? Let's take the concept a little further. The earth won't stop spinning even if all life were to be erased off of its face, so much for the significance of life itself. The universe won't disappear if 5 billion years later earth is swallowed up by the Sun. But we can't latch onto these bigger truths per our convenience whenever and wherever to suit our purposes, just to wiggle out of a real debate. There is a time and place for bigger truths and IMO this topic is not it.

If I go short term, you can't start talking long term and invalidate my points. If I go objective, you can't go subjective and invalidate my points. You are not wrong if you do so. You are only pointing out the obvious, the abortive nature of all such debates that I already mentioned.

Going purely by the subject ('is cancellation of IF ID good or bad?"), keeping aside the variables and unknowns (whose cancellation? What is good? What is bad? How good is good? How bad is bad? From whose perspective? Long term or short term? How long is long term and how short is short term?), going somewhat by the human web theory (six degrees of separation), I theorized that, if pivotal people leave, it will affect the connectedness of it all translating to lesser hits and thus, lesser interest in the forum itself. So yes, my answer is that it is bad. You are free to do a spectrum analysis, look closely at various shades, and understand the role the time component plays in such a scenario but, if you do that, you will never zero in on a satisfactory answer.



Okay, let's not talk about bigger truths, let's talk about smaller truths. I'm not exactly sure what you're suggesting here. Are you saying that it is wrong and "phony" for members to move on after someone who appeared close to them on the forum leaves? If that is the case, what exactly do you suggest they do? And why exactly do you expect these emotions and these personal feelings to be displayed publicly on the forum?

@Bold Red-

Although it may feel that way from time to time, it is not true. All of us have left the forum or taken breaks from the forum at some point in time and the forum has continued on its regular business. Things don't stop for anyone here just like life doesn't stop for anyone in reality. Right now, yes you can name a few people and say call them the pillars of DM - the ones that bring the rest of us together, but that doesn't mean they're irreplaceable. People easily come and go on the forum. If one of us leaves today, perhaps there will be a few people who will be disappointed, upset, and they will limit their time and activity on the forum. But after that, new people will emerge, new members will call DM home, and regular activity will resume. The once disappointed members will return and they will make new friends and a new group of people will take their place as the pillars of the section. DM activity is a sinusoidal curve as well - you can only go down so much, after which, you eventually have to make your way back up (with or without the same people).

To give an example - I joined DM when there were a completely different group of people who stood as pillars of this section. Active and entertaining members who held together the rest and it did feel like this was it. But most of those members aren't around anymore - and there is a completely new set of people here that call DM home today. Older members may still reminisce about those days, but there's really nothing you can do accept perhaps stop visiting. Either way, DM will continue running the same way.

Edited by *Woh Ajnabee* - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: crazy_sunny

@ The bolded - Good points brought out Woh Ajnabee 😃 @ words in red - Most of those who got banned will return - what was that curse you mentioned in your MOTW ? Cant recall it but it is true 😆



Thanks, Sunny! And I had forgotten all about that curse - haha. I don't remember what the name was anymore, but I promise you it still holds true. 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: old-black-joe

"Goodbyes in real life are difficult enough - let's not make virtuality just as full of emotional baggage and life-long regrets and disappointments. "

So how does one train their mind to do that?



Detachment. You have been here so long that you should already have trained yourself to do that. People come and go - it should be upsetting for a day or two and after that you move on. You accept that this forum isn't on anyone's top priority and that people have a lot to do in life. You can't expect them to stop doing what is important to them for your selfish reasons of keeping them here. Same way, always train yourself to remember that when you leave, people might talk about it one or two days and after that they will also move on. The same cycle of life applies here - you just have to train yourself to not make strong emotional attachments.

Having said that, obviously there are a few people that you do consider friends. In that case, it is harder to move on and perhaps you'll find ways to remain connected through other channels. If not, be happy that they've moved on to bigger and better things.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*



Detachment. You have been here so long that you should already have trained yourself to do that. People come and go - it should be upsetting for a day or two and after that you move on. You accept that this forum isn't on anyone's top priority and that people have a lot to do in life. You can't expect them to stop doing what is important to them for your selfish reasons of keeping them here. Same way, always train yourself to remember that when you leave, people might talk about it one or two days and after that they will also move on. The same cycle of life applies here - you just have to train yourself to not make strong emotional attachments.

Having said that, obviously there are a few people that you do consider friends. In that case, it is harder to move on and perhaps you'll find ways to remain connected through other channels. If not, be happy that they've moved on to bigger and better things.



True, it even applies to the *******. I censored it because you hate me talking about that thing, lolz! Never get emotional.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: old-black-joe



True, it even applies to the *******. I censored it because you hate me talking about that thing, lolz! Never get emotional.



I'm not sure what you've censored here. Elaborate?

And not at all, I am not saying never get emotional. I am perhaps the most emotional person on this talent since I have a knack for feeling a thousand different ways all at once. But, I'm saying that save those emotions for reality. Here, it is somewhat silly to form emotional attachments with every other member you come across. Keep a few close friends and keep up with them even after you've left the forum if you want, but besides that, don't bother.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*



I'm not sure what you've censored here. Elaborate?

And not at all, I am not saying never get emotional. I am perhaps the most emotional person on this talent since I have a knack for feeling a thousand different ways all at once. But, I'm saying that save those emotions for reality. Here, it is somewhat silly to form emotional attachments with every other member you come across. Keep a few close friends and keep up with them even after you've left the forum if you want, but besides that, don't bother.



I was talking about the stock market, LOL! You should never get emotional there. I'm glad I am a lot more levelheaded , both in the stock market and in real life.

I agree, especially with the comment about attatchments to every tom , dick and harry. Also yeah, you aren't going to see them in real life, not a likely event at all, so just be happy go lucky here.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: old-black-joe

Also yeah, you aren't going to see them in real life, not a likely event at all, so just be happy go lucky here.


You may not meet them on a regular basis but you might meet them sometime. I've met two members till now and the experience was very nice on both occassions.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: old-black-joe



Also yeah, you aren't going to see them in real life, not a likely event at all, so just be happy go lucky here.

That's not true, I have met a member from IF in RL.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*



Okay, let's not talk about bigger truths, let's talk about smaller truths. I'm not exactly sure what you're suggesting here. Are you saying that it is wrong and "phony" for members to move on after someone who appeared close to them on the forum leaves? If that is the case, what exactly do you suggest they do? And why exactly do you expect these emotions and these personal feelings to be displayed publicly on the forum?

@Bold Red-

Although it may feel that way from time to time, it is not true. All of us have left the forum or taken breaks from the forum at some point in time and the forum has continued on its regular business. Things don't stop for anyone here just like life doesn't stop for anyone in reality. Right now, yes you can name a few people and say call them the pillars of DM - the ones that bring the rest of us together, but that doesn't mean they're irreplaceable. People easily come and go on the forum. If one of us leaves today, perhaps there will be a few people who will be disappointed, upset, and they will limit their time and activity on the forum. But after that, new people will emerge, new members will call DM home, and regular activity will resume. The once disappointed members will return and they will make new friends and a new group of people will take their place as the pillars of the section. DM activity is a sinusoidal curve as well - you can only go down so much, after which, you eventually have to make your way back up (with or without the same people).

To give an example - I joined DM when there were a completely different group of people who stood as pillars of this section. Active and entertaining members who held together the rest and it did feel like this was it. But most of those members aren't around anymore - and there is a completely new set of people here that call DM home today. Older members may still reminisce about those days, but there's really nothing you can do accept perhaps stop visiting. Either way, DM will continue running the same way.


I second that. When I first came across DM I was a silent member for a long time but the entire dev team was different and there were a lot more active members. One by one people started leaving. People had a family to look after, others had issues with the DT, DT members resigned from their post, some got banned, others banned themselves and a lot more stuff went on. I'd say 90% of the people or may be more that used to be active members on this forum are no longer active but people move on. People always walk in and out of our lives-both virtual and real and it's just something we have to deal with but now it is a lot easier for me to deal with people leaving on IF or any online forum in comparison to real life friends and family leaving.
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Posted: 14 years ago
@ deb and souro:

I said it's not likely, not impossible!

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