Why did God create us? And ask us to worship him? - Page 3

Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades

I can never be the theistic God. I will just burst out in contradictions and paradoxes. Omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, omnipresent... Oh lord!

How about creating multiple images with limited abilities so that you can focus on any one limited aspect of yourself

Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades

Only I exist. 😉
You are most likely the product of my imagination.

For some reason, my imagination knew that such would be the by product of your imagination. 😛

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

For some reason, my imagination knew that such would be the by product of your imagination. 😛

My name is not Mr. Anderson. My name is Neo.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

For some reason, my imagination knew that such would be the by product of your imagination. 😛

For some reason too, my imagination knew that your imagination (which is actually the product of my imagination) knew that such would be the the by-product of my imagination. 🤓

Okay now we are playing it silly.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

For some reason, my imagination knew that such would be the by product of your imagination. 😛

Hey Sarina, If you dont see me it will be bcoz of ur imagination or lack of it .😆 I may very well be present and posting here but if you fail to see me , blame your imagination , not me !😃

Originally posted by: angie.4u

Hey Sarina, If you dont see me it will be bcoz of ur imagination or lack of it .😆 I may very well be present and posting here but if you fail to see me , blame your imagination , not me !😃

Angie, I see you clearly. For now the imagination is strong with you.

Labib, thanks for the topic! I've been waiting for you to get back into action. 🤗

I did not vote ... I have a mixed response, here we go:

I do not think that God decided to create man one day because he was bored and nothing better to do. I think the creation of man is very well thought-out and a result of wise planning and execution. I also don't believe man was created all of a sudden and in one go. There was a process involved ... first, there was nothing (a stage of non-existence), then there was creation of matter, then from that matter, man was created (a stage of existence), and gradually man evolved to the present form of humankind (a stage of awareness).

Moving onto why we were created, I will first come forward and say that we don't know. That is the real answer ... however, that does not mean that we cannot speculate and attempt to decipher why God created us in the first place. The first interpretation, and the most common one among "believers", is that God created us to worship him. To me, however, that idea does not seem plausible. In my mind, God is not a narcissist dictator who NEEDS us to worship him. In fact, by associating "need" with God, we are bestowing him with a characteristic associated with man. Man needs things, man wants things, but God is above that. He is more than that - that is why he is the Creator. In fact, this characteristic would imply that God craves recognition and worship from his creation, in order to signify his own importance or superiority. God is more than just the Creator who punishes anyone who dare not worship him.

If it were the case that God needed us to acknowledge him and to worship him, it would not make sense that God is hidden from us and does not come into view. It does not make sense that he would give us logic and reason if he only wanted us to blindly worship him. It also does not make sense that he would simply implant humans on this tiny planet called Earth (assuming we are the only life that exists out there) and leave the rest of the planets and the universe at large deserted.

That is why I think there is more to our existence than simply existing to acknowledge and worship God. Of course, now I'm sure you want to explain what I do believe rather than what I do not. But the truth is that its far easier to say what one does not believe than to put what one does believe into words. At least in my case, it is. I don't have a clear view on the existence of mankind. Not at all, in fact. But what I do know is that we are here for a reason greater than what we claim we're here for. To some extent, I do believe that God created us to know Him ---- but not by compulsion or fear, but through logic and reasoning. Maybe the physical world is a womb of our soul, and we are here to grow, to learn, to know, to decipher, to question ... perhaps God is preparing us for the "higher reality" that life after death where we will truly learn our purpose. Maybe this life will things put things into perspective for us before we enter the next life. Perhaps God wants to give us a chance to figure things out on our own, to use our own reasoning to attempt to understand our own purpose in life. Otherwise, I would think that God himself would come down and tell us why we were here. If God really was as much of a narcissist as we claim him to be, he would not have given us the power of reason and would have programmed us to believe and acknowledge everything he directly feeds us.

Sometimes, I think from a different angle and believe that maybe we overlook the smaller things - perhaps the purpose of life is to love. To give love, to be loved, to help others in need, to love humankind, to love God ... to spread love. Perhaps romanticism has got to my head, but I think God by all means encourages helping others, soothing others' pain, alleviating their burden, or simply bringing a smile to their face.

Of course, those are all a lot of maybe's, but I jot down here everything that I think - hence the lack of organization. I apologize if there were any discrepancies in the post. All of these thoughts are the pieces of the puzzle inside my head, I'm still trying to put them together to create a bigger picture.

Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades

Not really.

How so? If we created God and he did not create us, would He not cease to exist without our existence?

Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades

This is true. The only thing that I can be sure about is my own existence. That's something I can never doubt. Other than that, anything else that exists - or I assume exists - can very well be the product of my imagination.

But what if you are a figment of someone else's imagination? How would you know the difference? What if we are all figment of God's imagination. Maybe, God really hasn't created us yet, maybe he is just imagining what it would be like to create us. Maybe, God has already changed his mind and does not wish to create us any longer.

Or maybe, I've gone cra-cra.

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

How so? If we created God and he did not create us, would He not cease to exist without our existence?

Take 4th option as a symbiosis of two entities existing concurrently, neither causing/creating the other but each dependent on the other.

Take 5th option as two entities where one entity has created the other.