Why did God create us? And ask us to worship him? - Page 10

Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades

That's the most popular answer regarding this question, and you get to see that even without this topic. That's what you get when you have tons of people following the Abrahamic religions.

What does Hindus think about the question? Do they follow a similar philosophy like Islam and Christianity?

As for Hindus, it depends which school of philosophy they subscribe to. There are various concepts of 'God' in Hindu philosophy. Atheism is one of them.

I thought this scene from Dogma is an apt extract for this topic

Nun: Let me get this straight: you don't believe in God because of "Alice in Wonderland"?
Loki: No, "Through the Looking Glass". That poem, "The Walrus and the Carpenter," that's an indictment of organized religion. The walrus, with his girth and his good nature, he obviously represents either Buddha, or, or with his tusks, the Hindu elephant god, Lord Ganesha. That takes care of your Eastern religions. Now the carpenter, which is an obvious reference to Jesus Christ, who was raised a carpenter's son, he represents the Western religions. Now in the poem, what do they do? What do they do? They, they dupe all these oysters into following them and then proceed to shuck and devour the helpless creatures en masse. I don't know what that says to you, but to me it says that following these faiths based on mythological figures ensures the destruction of one's inner being. Organized religion destroys who we are by inhibiting our actions, by inhibiting our decisions out of, out of fear of some, some intangible parent figure who, who shakes a finger at us from thousands of years ago and says, and says, "Do it... do it and I'll f**kin' spank you."
Bartleby: [Bartleby is listening from a nearby seat]
[quietly]
Bartleby: Oh, geez...
Nun: The way you put it... I never really thought about it like that before. What have I been doing with my life? What am I...
Loki: Yeah, I know. Listen, my advice to you: you take this money that you've been collecting for your parish, go get yourself a nice dress, you know? Fix yourself up. Find some man, find some woman, that you can connect with, even for a moment, 'cause that's really all that life is, Sister. It's a series of moments. Why don't you seize yours?
[the nun hesitates, then smiles, nods, and leaves]
Loki: That-a girl. Ah.
[he turns around and sits next to Bartleby with a grin on his face]
Bartleby: You know, here's what I don't get about you. You know for a fact that there is a God. You've been in His presence. He's spoken to you personally. Yet I just heard you claim to be an atheist.
Loki: I just like to f**k with the clergy, man. I just love it, I love to keep those guys on their toes.

(Bartleby and Loki are two fallen Angels)

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

I am afraid there is no independent way of verifying the veracity of reality other than what your senses tell you. You perceive the "majority" that you are talking about through your senses. For example, you are seeing the others through your eyes and hearing the others through your ears. In other words, you see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear.

But but but - the others are showing (what they want to show) what reaches are eyes and speaking (what they want to speak) what reaches our ears. So , do we really get to hear what we want to hear and so on?

For any knowledge to be properly inferred or deduced, it has to be ultimately gained from one's sense based experience and nothing else. That's empiricism.

Now, my_view would tell us that we could rely on intuition but I analyzed that and frankly I didn't see any way how could we develop intuition over the years without the direct help of inputs fed to us via our senses.

Indeed , agreed on the whole.

Just one doubt- asked above.

Originally posted by: Mindbender

Indeed , agreed on the whole.

Just one doubt- asked above.

Oh! I was only saying that any confirmations and reconfirmations that you acquire are always via your senses. That's all.

As an example, I look at the night sky, see an object and recognize it as our moon. If I need a confirmation as to what that object is, I turn to the person next to me and ask him what is it that I am seeing by pointing out at the moon. I get a confirmation that it indeed is the moon. The circular logic embedded in the above example is that I saw that person through my eyes in just the same way as I saw the moon through my eyes. If the moon was suspect then so is the person. Which means, I am the one confirming to myself every single "factual" knowledge even though I might perceive it as coming from a separate and distinct entity independent of me.

oh GOD!!chinu..i disagree to tha core...

Well can't answer these....As I have faith in God...

i donn oabt the other religions and dont want to .but for me..being a muslim..Oh!!this is a holy Crap like qs!

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

omnipotence has nothing to do with sanity. omniscience does, to certain extent. if an entity is all-knowing and knows that creating us is insane, that entity would probably not create us, is one line of thought that is acceptable.

I think what ALD said boils down to the same thing, without the complexity in it.

alien theory is the BADASS