We are so insignificant in this universe - Page 14

Planets circle around stars, stars circle around galaxies. Similarly, do galaxies too circle around "something"?

Originally posted by: SolidSnake

Planets circle around stars, stars circle around galaxies. Similarly, do galaxies too circle around "something"?

I would replace the word "circle" with either rotate or orbit.

Galaxies rotate around a black-hole guaranteed to be at the center.

If it's orbiting you are talking about, usually in a cluster they orbit each other. If it's a single galaxy, it's usually floating in space held together because of gravity.

Originally posted by: sorcerer

I believe life has absolutely no purpose, no reason for being, it's simply chance. There is no love or hate in the universe, simply indifference. Our existence is dictated by events completely out of our control and the universe will neither miss our extinction nor pat us on the back if we discover the secrets of immortality.

While I agree with most of what you said, I somewhat disagree that life came about simply by chance, keeping in mind a couple of things that I have recently researched and a couple I am researching right now. One argument against life being a random event has to do with electron behavior during chemical bonding.

Atoms seems to have an inherent need to have their outermost shell (energy level) full of electrons and in that process they bond with other atoms so that the atoms could either share their electrons or transfer electrons from one atom to another. The atoms do this purportedly to seek stability and keep the energy state to a minimum. My question is, if it is all random, who conveyed that need to atoms to have their shells full of electrons? Who conveyed to the atoms that stability is important to them? How do the atoms know how to balance their energy fields? If I am observing the process of bonding and make up a law that the atoms need to have their shells full, then it is one thing. But how do the atoms know what law they are supposed to observe? If you want to talk numbers, the outer shell needs 8 electrons. Simply put, who is keeping count for the atoms and how are they doing the necessary math?

^^ Noticed the time discrepancy in the above post and edit ?? Time travelling again !!

Originally posted by: angie.4u

^^ Noticed the time discrepancy in the above post and edit ?? Time travelling again !!

I think they have two key column values switched in their database table. A bug.

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

I would replace the word "circle" with either rotate or orbit.

Galaxies rotate around a black-hole guaranteed to be at the center.

If it's orbiting you are talking about, usually in a cluster they orbit each other. If it's a single galaxy, it's usually floating in space held together because of gravity.

Yes, I was talking about orbiting. Even single galaxies must be orbiting around something? There are no bodies in the universe that do not orbit around "something", right?

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

While I agree with most of what you said, I somewhat disagree that life came about simply by chance, keeping in mind a couple of things that I have recently researched and a couple I am researching right now. One argument against life being a random event has to do with electron behavior during chemical bonding.

Atoms seems to have an inherent need to have their outermost shell (energy level) full of electrons and in that process they bond with other atoms so that the atoms could either share their electrons or transfer electrons from one atom to another. The atoms do this purportedly to seek stability and keep the energy state to a minimum. My question is, if it is all random, who conveyed that need to atoms to have their shells full of electrons? Who conveyed to the atoms that stability is important to them? How do the atoms know how to balance their energy fields? If I am observing the process of bonding and make up a law that the atoms need to have their shells full, then it is one thing. But how do the atoms know what law they are supposed to observe? If you want to talk numbers, the outer shell needs 8 electrons. Simply put, who is keeping count for the atoms and how are they doing the necessary math?

No one teaches us how to breathe. No one teaches a new born how to suckle. No one teaches us how to chew.

Each particle in this universe comes into existence by chance but continues to exist by following certain inherent norms that are required for survival. These required conditions were observed and studied way later in the game because humans are curious creatures. Nature set us all on auto-pilot as far as these requirements/necessities go.

No point pondering over how one does it. If you must ponder over something then try to come up with how nature programmed even an atom to strive for how it is supposed to be. And that will bring you back to your quest about consciousness - the mother of all devils on such quests.

Order in chaos is my answer to the questions you posed in your post above.

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

It's not about analyzing people and their complexities as they exist today and wondering about what sets us apart from one another and what our identity is. It's like starting to watch a movie from somewhere after intermission and trying to understand what the story is about. It's about going as far back into the past as possible to understand everything from the ground up. It's about watching the movie from the beginning.

Very few movies hold my interest all the way through. Some are good in first half and some are good in second half. Some fizzle out after a terrific start and some start out boring but have an awesome climax.

I am more interested in the touchy feely aspect of humans than the hardcore scientific ones. Different people different quests, I guess.

[quote]I am more interested in the touchy feely aspect of humans than the hardcore scientific ones. Different people different quests, I guess. [/quote]

Originally posted by: persistence

[quote]I am more interested in the touchy feely aspect of humans than the hardcore scientific ones. Different people different quests, I guess. [/quote]

Could gender be playing a role here?😊

I dont think so . 🤓