We are so insignificant in this universe

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Well I was reading about Pioneer and Voyager space probes on wiki and happen to reach this link....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_blue_dot

These breathtaking pictures were shot by Voyager 1 probe from a distance of 6+ billion Kms from Earth.





Famous Astronomer Carl Sagan wrote this about these pictures...

[quote]In a commencement address delivered May 11, 1996, Sagan related his thoughts on a deeper meaning of the photograph:

From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of particular interest. But for us, it's different. Consider again that dot. That's here, that's home, that's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.[/quote]


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Posted: 15 years ago
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I think I heard in a video posted by Mister K that all matter actually takes up the space equivalent to the size of a peanut. It could even be smaller.

Thus whatever looks big is just an empty space filled up with different fields.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: karandel_2008

I think I heard in a video posted by Mister K that all matter actually takes up the space equivalent to the size of a peanut. It could even be smaller.

Thus whatever looks big is just an empty space filled up with different fields.



Yeah! according to WMAP, there are less than 10 protons in a cubic meter of space. About 0.0000000000000000000042% of the universe contains any matter at all.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Regarding Solid Snake's topics I understand Mr. K mentioned that the topic starter often slithers away after starting a topic.😆 In this overwhelmed state it should be worse.
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Originally posted by: Summer3

Regarding Solid Snake's topics I understand Mr. K mentioned that the topic starter often slithers away after starting a topic.😆 In this overwhelmed state it should be worse.



I know! SolidSnake starts something but then doesn't take ownership after-wards.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SolidSnake



These breathtaking pictures were shot by Voyager 1 probe from a distance of 6+ billion Kms from Earth.




6+ billion kilometers is nothing and I mean nothing in the vastness of space. Just 1 light year is more than 9000 billion kilometers.

The closest star to our solar system is proxima centauri which is about 4 light years away. Viewed from there, earth is not even a dot. It would be a dot on a dot.

And "viewed" from billions of light years away, earth would be __________.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mister.K.



Yeah! according to WMAP, there are less than 10 protons in a cubic meter of space. About 0.0000000000000000000042% of the universe contains any matter at all.



WOW! 😲

So what's the rest? Only open vacuum?
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Originally posted by: sneha0601



WOW! 😲

So what's the rest? Only open vacuum?



http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_matter.html
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mister.K.



Yeah! according to WMAP, there are less than 10 protons in a cubic meter of space. About 0.0000000000000000000042% of the universe contains any matter at all.



So of that 0.0000000000000000000042% what percent would be me, or the whole earth?

I think I have read something similar, where the entire universe could be collapsed to a point. I've always wondered what could cause it to happen, and what are the implications.

Another thing I wonder is how is time related to matter and space. Where does the time line fit it, is there negative time? For me the hardest thing for the human mind to conceptualize seems to be nothing, absolute nothing, the lack of time, matter and space in an uncanny void. Infinity maybe incalculable but it is still imaginable as endless existence of sorts.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Haha, yes main topic start karke bhaag jaata hoon...not that I don't want to participate...infact main likhna to itna kuchh chahta hoon lekin time nahi milta...aur likhna bhi bada boring lagta hai mujhe. 😆

BTW, coming to the topic...I really feel kind of depressed when I look at the rocket tech we possess and then at the vaaaaaaaaaaaaaast distances in this universe. Humari current tech joke hai, even FTL (faster than light) travel se bhi kuchh nahi hoga. Humein waayyy FTL travel chahiye. Humein bahut bahut bahut jyada advancement chahiye rocket tech mein.

BTW FTL travel is impossible as per the current laws of physics. To iski hawa bhi nikal gayi abhi to. 😆

Voyager I has been travelling for 30+ years now and it has effectively not crossed even the limits of our Solar System.

From Wiki

[quote]The Most Recent NASA Voyager Report: As of April 12th, 2010 Voyager 1 was about 113.158 AU (16.928 billion km, or 10.518 billion miles) or 0.0018 light-year from the Sun, and has passed the termination shock, entering the heliosheath. As part of NASA's Voyager Interstellar Mission, the current goal is to reach and study the heliopause, which is the known boundary of the solar system.[/quote]

At current rate it will take thousands of years to reach the nearest star. Do not even think about the galaxy.

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