In search of Krishna - Page 18

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Door to what, K?

Doors get pushed or pulled by pretty much everyone! Next time I push you too much - don't be complaining😛

Door to the other side, G.

But don't push/pull the wrong doors. There's only one right one. Every other door is a trap door.

Originally posted by: my_view

I am inclined to say nullify all thoughts. Consciouness cannot think on its own. It just knows.

As I read somewhere the purpose of man's life is to become an abject zombie who serves a purpose he does not know, for reasons that he is not aware of.

If I draw a bunch of lines on a piece of paper with a pencil, when do you consider real nullification happened? When all the lines are erased with an eraser and nothing is left on the paper? When all the lines are erased with an eraser plus the paper is gone? When all the lines are erased with an eraser plus the paper is gone plus the pencil and the eraser are gone? When all the lines are erased with an eraser plus the paper is gone plus the pencil and the eraser are gone plus the "I" is gone?If it's the last, then why bother going thru the prior steps? Why not start with the last step first?

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

What!!! Krishna was the only man in Pandav's camp who tried his level best to avoid this war. He was never in the favor of war to begin with. And he definitely did not give any new meanings to dharma or adharma throughout Mahabharat.--- am talking about Gita...In Gita Krishna talking about Dharma and adharma to Arjun n many places .....Gita has been divided into eighteen chapters, each describing one aspect of life....Pada hey kabi Real Gita..hey tho good.. nahe tho no probs...😃

One needs to have a basic knowledge of MB to understand where Krishna is coming from in some of the verses in Gita. --- Ok...ji May be u r right!! just chill😃

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

If I draw a bunch of lines on a piece of paper with a pencil, when do you consider real nullification happened? When all the lines are erased with an eraser and nothing is left on the paper? When all the lines are erased with an eraser plus the paper is gone? When all the lines are erased with an eraser plus the paper is gone plus the pencil and the eraser are gone? When all the lines are erased with an eraser plus the paper is gone plus the pencil and the eraser are gone plus the "I" is gone?If it's the last, then why bother going thru the prior steps? Why not start with the last step first?

Pen, paper,eraser, lines or blueprint of your dreamhome are not relevant to your higher mind.

I imagine nullification to occur just before our soul leaves the body.

Originally posted by: my_view

Pen, paper,eraser, lines or blueprint of your dreamhome are not relevant to your higher mind.

I imagine nullification to occur just before our soul leaves the body.

I don't understand the concepts of "higher mind" and "soul".

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

I don't understand the concepts of "higher mind" and "soul".

Originally posted by: my_view

Unfortunately our language is limited to the world we know for description of that which cannot be fully comprehended by human mind.

I think we all experience it every now and then but cannot understand or remember it always.

Hope you know that I don't have any intentions to put you on the spot.

With that, I would still like you to elaborate on how you would go about nullifying thoughts. My earlier question was metaphorical in nature, in the sense, the squiggly lines on the paper are memories, paper is the mind and I am who I am (even though I still don't know who that is). The pencil was the cumulative experience which made memories. The eraser, well, it's just a tool at my disposal. It could be contemplation, meditation, concentration, focus or any such device which keeps the memories (thoughts) at bay.

Going back to your higher mind and soul, perhaps it would be better if we deal with only 3 "things" moving forward. Body. Mind. Consciousness. I don't see any other concept taking precedence over these. To me, these are all encompassing.

Originally posted by: my_view

Angie..your deduction sounds like - Hitler has a moustache. Mother Teresa also has a moustache. Therefore MT was Hitler or Hitler was MT.

Dharma is not an abstract concept or a fixed number. Dharma is general indicator of well being of society(world at large) and all its beings.
Like an index it goes up or down. Healthy social environment is vital for further growth of society. Compassion, honesty, knowledge, tolerance etc drives it up. Fear, insecurity and suspicion drags it down.
In Krishna's times there was nexus of bad rulers and individual growth and society were suffocated. Drastic measures were needed in such times to reverse the trend and the MB war was the only option left for Krishna.

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

If I draw a bunch of lines on a piece of paper with a pencil, when do you consider real nullification happened? When all the lines are erased with an eraser and nothing is left on the paper? When all the lines are erased with an eraser plus the paper is gone? When all the lines are erased with an eraser plus the paper is gone plus the pencil and the eraser are gone? When all the lines are erased with an eraser plus the paper is gone plus the pencil and the eraser are gone plus the "I" is gone?If it's the last, then why bother going thru the prior steps? Why not start with the last step first?

The "I" cannot be nullified if you define it as the ultimate reality and creator-

Why do people become so biased when it comes to religion or godly figures !!!!!