In search of Krishna - Page 20

Originally posted by: Mister.K

I am taking into account everything that the three of you said and am saying that fine, consciousness will remain consciousness whether you differentiate it (by looking at different forms of consciousness) or integrate it (by treating all forms of consciousness as one and the same) but the Question then becomes, who are you or me to differentiate or integrate? If we are different from consciousness, then it seems the function is already divided and is going the differentiation way as we speak. If we are the same as consciousness, then why do we need to integrate something that is already integrated?

Nice way of putting it Mister .K. (I had missed the dots B4 and after ). well consciousness will remain consciousness as U say. Its the mind trying to understand consciousness that feels the need to integrate to get closer to the source. Differentiation doesnt seem to aid the process of understanding the consciousness, for me. More on this later. Though its a Sunday morning , have got to look into some work 😊. These discussions seem to b running into pages. I can already feel the glare of some members resenting the talks on anything related to religion or god 😆 The mod can ask us to stop if she feels so !

Originally posted by: Mister.K

Question then becomes, who are you or me to differentiate or integrate? If we are different from consciousness, then it seems the function is already divided and is going the differentiation way as we speak. If we are the same as consciousness, then why do we need to integrate something that is already integrated?

Answer to first question here, since I am all that I have , its got to be I who decide whether to differentiate or integrate .I may be different from consciousness just as my childhood self is different from my adult self ! But the two are not separate ! In that sense they are the same ! Just as the child self grows into (gets integrated) the adult self so also will " I " grow into the "consciousness". Hope that takes care of the second question too

Originally posted by: angie.4u

Answer to first question here, since I am all that I have , its got to be I who decide whether to differentiate or integrate .I may be different from consciousness just as my childhood self is different from my adult self ! But the two are not separate !

They are separated by time. Which is one reason why I said we got to understand time first and foremost. Understanding time should be our first order of business.

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

They are separated by time.

This concept can be integrated to generate another difference between sun and me.eh?

Originally posted by: clodpolish

This concept can be integrated to generate another difference between sun and me.eh?

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

What adios! We will go POOF with you too. Remember how you talk about that singularity/unity thingy ---- ermm something on the lines of one person attaining realization is akin to the entire humankind attaining realization.

Don't worry Gauri, even if Mr K gets to keep his date with enlightenment in 2012, the entire humankind is not going to as it is said that a critical mass of humanity wud first have to attain enlightenment and not a single individual to make a significant difference to the rest of humanity. ppl in the past have attained enlightenment without the world going poof (at least from the POV of others who 'survived" ). So the world will be safe and it will need some non enlightened persons to inhabit it .I hope to join the later group. Which group wud U like to join, the lok or parlok ?😛

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

They are separated by time. Which is one reason why I said we got to understand time first and foremost. Understanding time should be our first order of business.

Now this is what I wud term as chaotic thoughts at work , though I do get the 'seeming separateness" caused by time . Time may be a difficult concept to explain in words but is something that is very well perceived by all humanity. I dont really get the point of understanding time in the present contxt. Time is your forte and you may further wish to elaborate😊

Originally posted by: angie.4u

Nice way of putting it Mister .K. (I had missed the dots B4 and after ). well consciousness will remain consciousness as U say. Its the mind trying to understand consciousness that feels the need to integrate to get closer to the source. Differentiation doesnt seem to aid the process of understanding the consciousness, for me. More on this later. Though its a Sunday morning , have got to look into some work 😊. These discussions seem to b running into pages. I can already feel the glare of some members resenting the talks on anything related to religion or god 😆 The mod can ask us to stop if she feels so !

How is Krishna separate from religion and/or God? Ah but then we can debate the rigid theistic perception of Krishna vs the spiritual consciousness perspective of Krishna.

Either way we have transcended from Where is Krishna to What is consciousness - which is a fair deviation in the light of Krishna consciousness.

If anyone has a problem, they can report and I shall address.

Originally posted by: angie.4u

Don't worry Gauri, even if Mr K gets to keep his date with enlightenment in 2012, the entire humankind is not going to as it is said that a critical mass of humanity wud first have to attain enlightenment and not a single individual to make a significant difference to the rest of humanity. ppl in the past have attained enlightenment without the world going poof (at least from the POV of others who 'survived" ). So the world will be safe and it will need some non enlightened persons to inhabit it .I hope to join the later group. Which group wud U like to join, the lok or parlok ?😛

Me too Angie. Most mythology states that there will be some people "Left Behind". I have always prayed to be "Left Behind". Now that all the good people have gone poof, I think it will be fun to inhabit earth.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Me too Angie. Most mythology states that there will be some people "Left Behind". I have always prayed to be "Left Behind". Now that all the good people have gone poof, I think it will be fun to inhabit earth.

I m guessing, the ones left behind were the ones who wrote the mythology/mythologies you were referring to.