Is reservation the solution?

Govt should consider Merits and Income level then give reservation......Noo need reservation for any religion/cast/gender or minority ......Political parties want to keep these kind of reservation cos they dont want loose the vote banks.

Originally posted by: angie.4u

The reservation policy on the basis of caste that had been started since our independence persists even today. In these 50 odd yrs has it met its objective of providing a fair ground for those who had been discriminated against? Recently when this policy was extended to include reservation for the OBC in education as well as Jobs it lead to lot of heart burn & agitations all over the country till the Supreme court stepped in.

I wud like ur honest opinion on weather it has succeeded in improving the lot of ppl or do U feel that the real issue is being sidelined by the politicians .

Hope its taken in he right spirit. Didnt mean to offend any1

well i think reservation in certain cases is necessary, but the bottomline or the main problem is again corruption , dishonesty , etc.

However, just a point i'd like to mention is that i'd love to see an education institute in india without any reservation whatsoever(which has the cream of the nation). There is no doubt about the fact that reservation dilutes the quality of educational institutes, due to which our institutes don't really have worldwide acclaim to that extent which is possible(not even IITs)

Originally posted by: clodpolish

[However, just a point i'd like to mention is that i'd love to see an education institute in india without any reservation whatsoever(which has the cream of the nation). There is no doubt about the fact that reservation dilutes the quality of educational institutes, due to which our institutes don't really have worldwide acclaim to that extent which is possible(not even IITs)

Originally posted by: angie.4u

The pvt educational inst in India dont hav to reserve any seats if I m not mistaken. & Yes reservation does dilute the quality.

So my question is shouldnt we rather B aiming to remove the conditions for which we brought in rservation in the 1st place rather than go on extending it for God knows how long. The Govt ought @ pay more attention in that area to remove the unfair disparities in society than taking the easy way out by reserving seats .Provide a fair ground across the society & do away with any reservation.

i'd rather say first give the policy of reservation a fair chance. Our constitution makers must have had something in mind before forming this policy. However, there is no doubt about the fact that the policy has not been even implemented properly, and we are framing conclusions on poor implemention of policy rather than the policy itself ! Who knows that the policy if implemented properly , might lead to fruitful effects, but till it is implemented improperly, i'd rather say first perfect the implementation then talk about whether the policy is correct or not😊

Regarding pvt institutes, who cares about them ?😆

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Nope, reservation is preferential treatment. Once we justify preferential treatment to compensate for past harms we open up an endless loop.

If someone's socioeconomic status makes them less likely to have a good education or work training, then invest in bringing them up to speed, do not lower the standards and push them through.

Think of it would you think its OK to lower safety standards on a car because the company has tough times or be forced to buy a brand to make up a car diversity quota.

ya , well yes, the ideal way should be to invest effort in them !

But how ?

Btw - now its got me thinking. What exactly do you all feel are the "pros" of reservation system?

Originally posted by: clodpolish

ya , well yes, the ideal way should be to invest effort in them !

Needs based, not caste,race, community or religion based.

But how ?

Person cannot find job - public job banks, skilled worker training, job finding assistance, skill building workshop NOT free ticket to a job they may not be able to responsibly fulfill.

Lack of education - scholarships to low income groups, books and materials loaning/sharing/funding services. English training for vernacular students, flexible school scheduling for children who must work, work study programs, remedial summer and vacation classes to catch up NOT free admission to people with low academic performance simply because they won a birth ticket.

Funding? - Divert funds from 'reservation' programs to 'useful' programs. Stop wasting campaign funds on appealing to these groups through 'reservation' apply it to something useful. Taxing the people who oppose reservation (who mostly happen to be the well to do). We all have to pay a price for what we want. If people do not want to do that. Then suck it when you lose your job or college seat to some dumb ****

Btw - now its got me thinking. What exactly do you all feel are the "pros" of reservation system?

None. Its glorified discrimination. That's that.