Will you be sad or glad to see Bush go? - Page 4

Honestly I care less as it doesnt make much of a difference to me at personal level. I was not a big fan of Bush the President though I admired Bush the TX Governor! I am not a fan of Obama either. Gotta wait and see what changes he's gonna bring and how/what effects those changes are going to have on US economy and politics....

Originally posted by: gursharan

that's what i don't like why everyone hypes America so much, if we commoners stop thinking of the U.S as a world power i am sure the media will also stop.
"When America is sick the rest of the world catches colds" so is this a good thing or a bad thing. Why should one country suffer from what America does? If we stop regarding this notion, I am sure America will longer affect other countries.
If media keeps giving America so much importance by saying how their house market is or stocks are, or their political system then it is bound to take a toll on other countries. Indian newspapers have headlines about American economy and how it will affect India, but if we don't give so much importance to it, people wouldn't care and it wouldn't affect their lives.
I am saying all of this because i live in Canada and all i see on news is American economy. In this way there is a image or a perception created in the public's mind that america is everything and if something goes wrong there same will happen here and people stop making investments and start selling stocks enen though their might be nothing wrong in their own country.
About America being the world power, it will not be entitled to that title in next 10 or 15 years or so. There were so many world powers before U.S and they all fell one by one and so will US.

Originally posted by: godisone

I really really hope Obama lives up to people's expectation of him and becomes a rocking president!😃

He won't be able to - I'll tell you that much.

I love Obama too, but he has made many many many promises that will be very hard to keep.

There will be disappointments, take my word for it. We don't always get what we want. Stabilizing the economy, giving more to the middle-class, improving health care, cleaning the whole mess created by the Bush administration - is not a piece of cake.

It'll be a tough, time-consuming process which will require a whole lot of patience. Just stay hopeful and keep up with the encouragement.

I'm glad to see Bush go, America (and the world for that matter) need a change, and Obama's the man. I didn't agree with Bush's foreign policies, nor do I think he made the right decisions while in office. But do I think that he's the only one at fault? Absolutely not. I don't (didn't) agree with the War in Afghanistan/Iraq, but Bush isn't the only that should be blamed for it. Why did Congress constantly grant his requests to fund the war if everyone was so against it? Bush made horrible choices during his presidency, carrying out tasks that his father was unable to complete during his presidency. But I will say that the man has aged and gone through a lot these past eight years, watching him during the inauguration made me wonder what his thoughts were. Anyways, its his time to go. Now the question is will the public forgive him for his mistakes as President? Will the War in Iraq be forgotten like Bill Clinton's scandal? People poked a lot of fun at Bush for his IQ, high school grades, college papers, and his lack of proper ettiquete during speeches and such, but no one can change the fact that he served this nation for 8 years and was the 43rd president.

Moving to Obama, Obama is that light at the end of the tunnel, that one last hope that people are clinging to, but could it be that that light at the end of the tunnel is just another train -- yes it very much could, who knows? I like Obama the man, his presence, his oratory skills, his ability to carry himself in public. Do I agree with the democratic ideals, no, I don't. I feel some of his policies are too liberal, but America's heading in that liberal direction Bush or no Bush, gay marriage will become permissible one day, and there's nothing we can do about it. Not to get off topic, but yes, Obama's presidency is much looked forward to, it really is time for a change, the question now is what changes will he be bringing to the nation.

On a last note to those who believe American politics shouldn't affect the world, I think that's a naive comment. American policies control the world, and that's a sad, bitter truth, that we have to accept.


GOBAMA! 😉

Okay, a lot longer than I expected --- sorry! 😳

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

I feel some of his policies are too liberal, but America's heading in that liberal direction Bush or no Bush, gay marriage will become permissible one day, and there's nothing we can do about it.

President Obama is not going to do anything about gay marriage. I think America heading down that path of human rights (gay rights), is the the right choice. I think America is still homophobic and will continue to be so for another 40-50 years. Being a racist is taboo but being a homophobe is acceptable at the moment!


Finally we will let go of this "faith"-based politics that we saw with Bush and begin to progress forward rather than go backwards!

Originally posted by: Dark Love

He won't be able to - I'll tell you that much.

I love Obama too, but he has made many many many promises that will be very hard to keep.

There will be disappointments, take my word for it. We don't always get what we want. Stabilizing the economy, giving more to the middle-class, improving health care, cleaning the whole mess created by the Bush administration - is not a piece of cake.

It'll be a tough, time-consuming process which will require a whole lot of patience. Just stay hopeful and keep up with the encouragement.

Madz, even if Obama takes steps towards his goal, I will be happy. If he can lay the foundation towards peace and prosperity, the coming generations will always thank him😊

And yes, I'm glad Bush is leaving😃

Originally posted by: apux

President Obama is not going to do anything about gay marriage. I think America heading down that path of human rights (gay rights), is the the right choice. I think America is still homophobic and will continue to be so for another 40-50 years. Being a racist is taboo but being a homophobe is acceptable at the moment!


Finally we will let go of this "faith"-based politics that we saw with Bush and begin to progress forward rather than go backwards!

Well I agree, Obama isn't concerned with gay rights, but that is an issue in today's American society. Gay rights are a completely different issue, I won't get into that, but we're entitled to our own opinion, are we not? As far as America being homophobic goes, I think that's pushing it, gay relationships have become the new trend across the world, there ain't no way that each one of these people has some sort of sexuality disorder. Its become more of a statement that people want to make these days. (Darn it, I said I wasn't going to get into it 😆). Anyways, as far as Bush's "faith"-based policies are concerned, the Republican party feeds off of that very "faith". And I actually agree with some of the social conservatism that they practice. Liberal social policies have the "its-your-choice" motto stamped across everything, sooner or later, whether to think of murder as a crime or not will be "your-choice". Okay, backing off now, I have high hopes for Obama and his "change", hoping to see some of those become true.

Peace.

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

Well I agree, Obama isn't concerned with gay rights, but that is an issue in today's American society. Gay rights are a completely different issue, I won't get into that, but we're entitled to our own opinion, are we not? As far as America being homophobic goes, I think that's pushing it, gay relationships have become the new trend across the world, there ain't no way that each one of these people has some sort of sexuality disorder. Its become more of a statement that people want to make these days. (Darn it, I said I wasn't going to get into it 😆). Anyways, as far as Bush's "faith"-based policies are concerned, the Republican party feeds off of that very "faith". And I actually agree with some of the social conservatism that they practice. Liberal social policies have the "its-your-choice" motto stamped across everything, sooner or later, whether to think of murder as a crime or not will be "your-choice". Okay, backing off now, I have high hopes for Obama and his "change", hoping to see some of those become true.

Peace.

That was definitely ignorant comment to make, don't you think? Being gay isn't something that will go in or out of style! Did you wake up this morning and decide to be hetrosexual? I don't think so...It's a biological way of living which many scientific studies have supported...I mean, who believes in science anyways...but like you said, let's not get into it....but I do have to agree that America is not ready for gay marriage or gay relations....Gay marriage ban was even passed in a liberal state like California (which is supposed to be years ahead of the rest of the country in civil rights), overwhelmingly supported by Lations and Blacks....and people use religion to hide behind their own disgust for people who live a different lifestyle than them....reality is that people are digusted and uncomfortable seeing gay people together...sorry, I kinda did get into it!

I believe religion has no place in government policies and hence I'm glad we'll be leaving the faith-based politics behind....if Obama does take a decision that affects our nation, I hope it won't be because God told him to do it....

At least we agree on one thing, peace...and oh yeah, Obama!

Originally posted by: apux

That was definitely ignorant comment to make, don't you think? Being gay isn't something that will go in or out of style! Did you wake up this morning and decide to be hetrosexual? I don't think so...It's a biological way of living which many scientific studies have supported...I mean, who believes in science anyways...but like you said, let's not get into it....but I do have to agree that America is not ready for gay marriage or gay relations....Gay marriage ban was even passed in a liberal state like California (which is supposed to be years ahead of the rest of the country in civil rights), overwhelmingly supported by Lations and Blacks....and people use religion to hide behind their own disgust for people who live a different lifestyle than them....reality is that people are digusted and uncomfortable seeing gay people together...sorry, I kinda did get into it!

I believe religion has no place in government policies and hence I'm glad we'll be leaving the faith-based politics behind....if Obama does take a decision that affects our nation, I hope it won't be because God told him to do it....

At least we agree on one thing, peace...and oh yeah, Obama!

Just because I don't suppose gay rights, I'm ignorant? No, I don't think that was an ignorant comment to make, that's why I made it. All of a sudden 20% of the world's population decides they're gay and want to admit it at the exact same time? Oh yeah, that's totally natural. As far as biology goes, ever wonder why gay couples aren't able to reproduce? Homosexuality goes against every aspect of biology. Genetics does point out the different kinds of sexuality disorders, but how many of these people have a sexuality disorder?

Just because you don't agree doesn't make me ignorant. If I don't support gay rights, its because I don't choose to do so. As far as keeping religion out of politics goes, that's being a little too optimistic don't you think? You're asking a man to set aside his belief as though they're not a part of him as he makes his policies? Even an Atheist's policies will be influenced by his beliefs, God or no God.

And oh yeah, I am disgusted seeing gay people together, outrageous enough for you? God didn't mean for that to happen. Adam and Eve, babe, not Adam and Steve. But that doesn't mean I don't think they have a right to live or that I try to stop them from doing what they want.

Anyways, didn't want to get into this, and look where that's got me.

**No personal offense meant here.

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

Just because I don't suppose gay rights, I'm ignorant? No, I don't think that was an ignorant comment to make, that's why I made it. All of a sudden 20% of the world's population decides they're gay and want to admit it at the exact same time? Oh yeah, that's totally natural. As far as biology goes, ever wonder why gay couples aren't able to reproduce? Homosexuality goes against every aspect of biology. Genetics does point out the different kinds of sexuality disorders, but how many of these people have a sexuality disorder? ......................