Will you be sad or glad to see Bush go? - Page 6

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Yes, I will be sad very sad. It will be the end of misunderestimation and noocoolar technology. But worse I am still curious where those weapons are. Please Bush, can you tell us now at least. Curiosity killed the cat, and I am dying.

Didn't you hear, they're under his bed. 😉😆

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Yes, I will be sad very sad. It will be the end of misunderestimation and noocoolar technology. But worse I am still curious where those weapons are. Please Bush, can you tell us now at least. Curiosity killed the cat, and I am dying.

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

I still think that two men in a relationship was not nature's intention (replacing God with nature just so we can all relate, people usually get a lot more worked up when religion is brought into anything).

Oh, I see. Would two women be okay😛

@Gauri di, I think God is a major part of this, or more so religion. The differences in our beliefs come from our faiths, and that's why I disagree with gay marriages --- not because I'm disgusted, but because I really do think that its wrong, if that's me being ignorant so be it.

I don't think it's due to the difference in our faiths. Currently, pretty much all religions oppose gays with equal vehmenance (sp?). I see gay-ism (not sure whether it's a word or not) more as a social issue than a religious one. People are hell bent on giving it a religious twist because, generally speaking, it is easier to force certain beliefs down people's throats in the name of religion. Most people have this tendency to accept religious teachings/preachings without question. That is why people opposing gay unions are so hell bent on using religion as their crutches.

However, people keep missing one important point - religions have evolved with time as well. Lot of things religions used to be rigid upon are acceptable or common practice now a days. Gay unioins will also be accepted widely after some time. It's all just a matter of time - kind of like a black getting elected as America's president years after our nation's sordid past of racial discrimination. Someone here narrated this line during the [residential race debate:

"Rosa sat so that Martin can walk. Marting walked so that Obama can run. Obama ran so that future generations can fly. "

So, you see, even racialism faded over a long period of time. I am pretty sure people will get used to gay marriages in future as well.

The point of my argument really is that if its not nature's intention, we should not go against nature. Stubborn, aren't I? 😆

Well, if you are now going to use nature as your savior here then let me point out that unicellular creatures like bacteria or amoeba or virus exist in the very same nature jis ki duhaee tum dey rahee ho and these creatures are capable of reproducing without any external factor. Don't remember the name of the process now but if I am not mistaken, it's binary fusion. It has been ages since I took biology. Plants have also known to reproduce using budding. Therefore, it was never nature's intent that union should be or can only be between two heterosexual beings. And even if the sole intent of man-woman union is procreation then isn't it high time we start going against this particular will of nature like we have so many times with helping barren women conceive with donated sperms or folks having test tube babies? Since science has beaten the very purpose nature put hetrosexuality in place for majority of species, per you, then what's the point of hanging on to something that may not be as relevant today as it was in past centuries?

Peace out.

Gay Rights Shmay Rights! Those f*gs can shove it. If we give gay people equal rights then all people will want to be treated equally. In the age of plastic we cannot allow anything that is not natural like polyester. Being gay is unnatural. That is why the dinosaurs died. Also if we let gay people around us we will all become gay and die like the dinosaurs. Just like tall people make us tall.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Gay Rights Shmay Rights! Those f*gs can shove it. If we give gay people equal rights then all people will want to be treated equally. In the age of plastic we cannot allow anything that is not natural like polyester. Being gay is unnatural. That is why the dinosaurs died. Also if we let gay people around us we will all become gay and die like the dinosaurs. Just like tall people make us tall.

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

If you say so, I'm in. However I feel the debate isn't prolific, because we'll never agree with each other. 😆 But my exact point is are you sure sexuality isn't a choice? If it is, then why did mankind start with one man and one woman (shoot, going back to religion again, darn it 😆), are you suggesting it could've started with two men as well? Please don't answer that. 😆

And the sanctity of marriage is what's at stake here, which brings in so many different issues today's society faces --- "living together" without committing to marriage, adultery, divorce, etc. And I disagree with all of them.

Taking it back to biology, and excuse me for being so blunt, but its been scientifically proven that its impossible for two men to have s*x, let alone reproduce. Imagine a world where people are free to choose their sexuality as they please, biologically necessary or not, at pleasure and will, how do you expect them the world and its population to proceed if we all become homosexual? Shouldn't nature's intention be given some amount of thought?

We're discussing to different issues here --- gay rights/marriage vs. "being gay" and its causes and biological heritage, which are two very different things.

Moral of the story, I'm an extremely conservative girl who's probably been born in the wrong century, perhaps I should've been born during the times when a girl showing her ankle would've been considered outrageous. 😆

Oh of course I'm not in the delusion that I will change your mind, after all, you're stubborn (your words) right😆😉 But seriously, in most arguments/ debates I have, I never actually change the mind of the opposite side...BUT you never know, maybe we can change the minds of others reading or tip the edge of those undecided people!

Gay Marriage: Everyone has their values and morals attached to marriage...but it seems rather unfair to restrict the rights of others when they are not causing any harm to any other citizen...its not right to treat legal citizens who pay their taxes as second-rate citizens...sorry that was my rant on Prop 8 being passed in California!

Origins of gay: Gay people are not gonna take over the human race and make it extinct. You need not worry, heterosexual people will always exist because, I repeat, it is not a choice. People will not all go gay and start liking the same gender. As for following nature's way, why don't you go tell all gays that? I don't think they can do that physically or mentally...I'm just saying, for that gay individual it does not feel natural...unfortunately things are not so black and white in this world....take hermaphrodites for an instance....where do they fit in nature? I think nature might be giving them some mixed signals!

As for you being conservative, to be honest I was bit similar to you in high school....I didn't really want to think or talk about gay people....I was uncomfortable of the thought of same sex relationships....There was this flamboyant gay guy in one of my classes....I was sort of indifferent towards him while my other friends were actually quite cruel to him....They acted as if he was a leper and one friend screamed every time he came near here....I knew that was wrong but I never stood up for that guy....As I entered college, I met many different people and learned many different things....I became more open-minded and began to really understand how people felt on this issue....I actually have no personal attachment to gay people because I don't have any family members or close friends that are gay, but I sympathize with the injustice being done on them on a very human level....and oh since I'm a science person, I like it when there is proof for something so its easy for me to understand gay people and why they are the way they are in biological terms....anyways, I'm sure you really don't care how I came to be sooo open-minded....but here it is😆

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

........., not sure how it works in DM. Do we continue debating until Raj comes and increases all our warnings? 😆

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Gay Rights Shmay Rights! Those f*gs can shove it. If we give gay people equal rights then all people will want to be treated equally. In the age of plastic we cannot allow anything that is not natural like polyester. Being gay is unnatural. That is why the dinosaurs died. Also if we let gay people around us we will all become gay and die like the dinosaurs. Just like tall people make us tall.

cha gaye guru !!!

Btw ,
there's a law which states ,
everything is changing !!
So i guess we shouldn't make any arguments about anything ,
cos what is a fact today might be fiction tomorrow

But seriously,
its strange how almost each argument can in the end be brought down to something like , it depends from person to person, its his perspective , its his POV, etc !!!

Originally posted by: ashoka_was_king

But seriously,
its strange how almost each argument can in the end be brought down to something like , it depends from person to person, its his perspective , its his POV, etc !!!

Well kinda like what your siggy says, everything in life is static, be it opinions, people, morals, etc. So the bottomline is that everything does depend from person to person, but that doesn't necessarily mean that each person is right. 😉😆

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

🤣😆 how did I miss this one😆 To tell you frankly, there have been times when Raj had to do just that😆 But I don't think any rules were broken here or sentiments hurt. We have slightly high tolerance threhhold here at dm as compared to srgmp😆

Okay, that's good to know. Raj has given me his stern "sudhar jao" so many times now, it makes me feel incomplete without it. 😆 But I already told you .. 40% warning level, can't afford more right now. Izzat ka sawal hai. 😆