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There was an interesting article in nytimes. It set me thinking. Read on.......

India Calling

By ANAND GIRIDHARADAS
Published: November 22, 2008
WHAT are Papa and I doing here?"

These words, instant-messaged by my mother in a suburb of Washington, D.C., whizzed through the deep-ocean cables and came to me in the village where I'm now living, in the country that she left.

It was five years ago that I left America to come live and work in India. Now, in our family and among our Indian-American friends, other children of immigrants are exploring motherland opportunities. As economies convulse in the West and jobs dry up, the idea is spreading virally in migr homes.

Which raises a heart-stirring question: If our parents left India and trudged westward for us, if they manufactured from scratch a new life there for us, if they slogged, saved, sacrificed to make our lives lighter than theirs, then what does it mean when we choose to migrate to the place they forsook?

If we are here, what are they doing there?

They came of age in the 1970s, when the "there" seemed paved with possibility and the "here" seemed paved with potholes. As a young trainee, my father felt frustrated in companies that awarded roles based on age, not achievement. He looked at his bosses, 20 years ahead of him in line, and concluded that he didn't want to spend his life becoming them.

My parents married in India and then embarked to America on a lonely, thrilling adventure. They learned together to drive, shop in malls, paint a house. They decided who and how to be. They kept reinventing themselves, discarding the invention, starting anew. My father became a management consultant, an entrepreneur, a human-resources executive, then a Ph.D. candidate. My mother began as a homemaker, learned ceramics, became a ceramics teacher and then the head of the art department at one of Washington's best schools.

It was extraordinary, and ordinary: This is what America did to people, what it always has done.

My parents brought us to India every few years as children. I relished time with relatives; but India always felt alien, impenetrable, frozen.

Perhaps it was the survivalism born of scarcity: the fierce pushing to get off the plane, the miserliness even of the rich, the obsession with doctors and engineers and the neglect of all others. Perhaps it was the bureaucracy, the need to know someone to do anything. Or the culture shock of servitude: a child's horror at reading "Uncle Tom's Cabin" in an American middle school, then seeing servants slapped and degraded in India.

My firsthand impression of India seemed to confirm the rearview immigrant myth of it: a land of impossibilities. But history bends and swerves, and sometimes swivels fully around.

India, having fruitlessly pursued command economics, tried something new: It liberalized, privatized, globalized. The economy boomed, and hope began to course through towns and villages shackled by fatalism and low expectations.

America, meanwhile, floundered. In a blink of history came 9/11, outsourcing, Afghanistan, Iraq, Katrina, rising economies, rogue nuclear nations, climate change, dwindling oil, a financial crisis.

Pessimism crept into the sunniest nation. A vast majority saw America going astray. Books heralded a "Post-American World." Even in the wake of a historic presidential election, culminating in a dramatic change in direction, it remained unclear whether the United States could be delivered from its woes any time soon.

"In the U.S., there's a crisis of confidence," said Nandan Nilekani, co-chairman of Infosys Technologies, the Indian software giant. "In India," he added, "for the first time after decades or centuries, there is a sense of optimism about the future, a sense that our children's futures can be better than ours if we try hard enough."

My love for the country of my birth has never flickered. But these new times piqued interest in my ancestral land. Many of us, the stepchildren of India, felt its change of spirit, felt the gravitational force of condensed hope. And we came.

Exact data on migrs working in India or spending more time here are scarce. But this is one indicator: India unveiled an Overseas Citizen of India card in 2006, offering foreign citizens of Indian origin visa-free entry for life and making it easier to work in the country. By this July, more than 280,000 migrs had signed up, according to The Economic Times, a business daily, including 120,000 from the United States.

At first we felt confused by India's formalities and hierarchies, by British phraseology even the British had jettisoned, by the ubiquity of acronyms. We wondered what newspapers meant when they said, "INSAT-4CR in orbit, DTH to get a boost." (Apparently, it meant a satellite would soon beam direct-to-home television signals.)

Working in offices, some of us were perplexed to be invited to "S&M conferences," only to discover that this denoted sales and marketing. Several found to their chagrin that it is acceptable for another man to touch your inner thigh when you crack a joke in a meeting.

We learned new expressions: "He is on tour" (Means: He is traveling. Doesn't mean: He has joined U2.); "What is your native place?" (Means: Where did your ancestors live? Doesn't mean: What hospital delivered you?); "Two minutes" (Means: An hour. Doesn't mean: Two minutes.).

We tried to reinvent ourselves, as our parents had, but in reverse. Some studied Hindi, others yoga. Some visited the Ganges to find themselves; others tried days-long meditations.

Many of us who shunned Indian clothes in youth began wearing kurtas and chappals, saris and churidars. There was a sad truth in this: We had waited for our heritage to become cool to the world before we draped its colors and textures on our own backs.

We learned how to make friends here, and that it requires befriending families. We learned to love here: Men found fondness for the elusive Indian woman; women surprised themselves in succumbing to chauvinistic, mother-spoiled men.

We forged dual-use accents. We spoke in foreign accents by default. But when it came to arguing with accountants or ordering takeout kebabs, we went sing-song Indian.

We gravitated to work specially suited to us. If there is a creative class, in Richard Florida's phrase, there is also emerging what might be called a fusion class: people positioned to mediate among the multiple societies that claim them.

India's second-generation returnees have built boutiques that fuse Indian fabrics with Western cuts, founded companies that train a generation to work in Western companies, become dealmakers in investment firms that speak equally to Wall Street and Dalal Street, mixed albums that combine throbbing tabla with Western melodies.

Our parents' generation helped India from afar. They sent money, advised charities, guided hedge-fund dollars into the Bombay Stock Exchange. But most were too implicated in India to return. Our generation, unscathed by it, was freer to embrace it.

Countries like India once fretted about a "brain drain." We are learning now that "brain circulation," as some call it, may be more apt.

India did not export brains; it invested them. It sent millions away. In the freedom of new soil, they flowered. They seeded a new generation that, having blossomed, did what humans have always done: chase the frontier of the future.

Which just happened, for many of us, to be the frontier of our own pasts.

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Here are some of the questions that come to mind after reading this article:
1. Do you really think the trend exists today where you see the second generation Indians moving back to or are interested in moving back to India?
2. Do you think immigrants or their offsprings move back out of their own free will or beacsue of something else - like their job shipped back to India because of outsourcing etc?
Let's see how many more questions we come up with after reading this article.....and, of course, looking forward to read your answers to the above two questions.
I, personally, feel that people like Anand are in minority. Very few people move back while still in their productive years out of their own free will. Fewer second generation kids/youth think about moving back to India. Most love going to India BUT only for a vacation. This is the trend I have noticed in north indians at least...north indians that I know. Some people are setting up businesses in India but most are managing them from states. These businesses could be around outsourcing, body shopping etc or something else. But I don't see them moving to India lock, stock and barrel.
That said, the opening line of this article touched a chord. I imagined myself in his mom's role sending that message to one of my kids.....to tell you frankly, it was a very lonely, heart wrenching kind of sad feeling....like an emptiness setting within. Most first generation parents, especially those who have no realtives here, make their kids the center of their universe. It was hard to imagine how it would feel like if that center was to move out of our current universe and go settle down in the universe we left behind but are still attached to....................
Okay, enough of my blabbering here. Let us see your take on this article😊

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Interesting and humorous article. I think I am going to send people invites to a BDSM session and be like Jesus its a Business Development Sales Meeting, what are the handcuffs for. To answer the questions.

1) I think there definitely is an increase in people's interest in going back to India. It is just spread across the board from FOB students to fourth fifth generation Americans. Sometimes even Americans themselves. I am not sure if it has been around long enough or if it is prevalent enough to clearly identify it as a trend. But going to India is now being more seriously considered as an option.

2) I am not sure if I should classify it as free will or circumstance, but the reasons are varied. India has gone through an economic boom of sorts. The service and manufacturing industry from across the world is being outsourced to India. The job market is wider, with many opportunities for growth. The retail industry is also booming, the mall and shopping culture which is on the decline in USA is rising in India. When you compare cost of living vs income in India, and the same in USA. India just seems a lot more lucrative. Not just Indians but I have seen a few Americans themselves wonder on why slog their lives out here when they could go to India and get hired into a well paying post. With the state of American economy and the rapid progress India has made, people just wonder that perhaps India might be a good option.

While it still is a personal choice and done by ones will, it is still a good deal circumstance too. When immigrants left for America, no one wanted to leave their country, life and culture behind. They did it because it was a choice they had to make to have a successful life. They continued to cling to and be reminiscent of home. If this indeed becomes a trend, I doubt it will be a sheer joy of returning home. It will be a life choice and many will sit back and think of 'home', the home they were born to and grew up in.


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Like RTH, I don't feel it's a trend yet. The number of people wanting to leave India to go and live in the States is much larger compared to those who want to return to India. As the article says, things have become more accessible and readily available. And even though many people may not admit it, cheap labour (maids, drivers, gardeners etc) is a huge attraction, too. Plus these people have a huge advantage - they can always relocate to the States if things don't work out, or even better - relocate to Dubai 😉😆

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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Interesting and humorous article. I think I am going to send people invites to a BDSM session and be like Jesus its a Business Development Sales Meeting, what are the handcuffs for. To answer the questions.

1) I think there definitely is an increase in people's interest in going back to India. It is just spread across the board from FOB students to fourth fifth generation Americans. Sometimes even Americans themselves. I am not sure if it has been around long enough or if it is prevalent enough to clearly identify it as a trend. But going to India is now being more seriously considered as an option.

2) I am not sure if I should classify it as free will or circumstance, but the reasons are varied. India has gone through an economic boom of sorts. The service and manufacturing industry from across the world is being outsourced to India. The job market is wider, with many opportunities for growth. The retail industry is also booming, the mall and shopping culture which is on the decline in USA is rising in India. When you compare cost of living vs income in India, and the same in USA. India just seems a lot more lucrative. Not just Indians but I have seen a few Americans themselves wonder on why slog their lives out here when they could go to India and get hired into a well paying post. With the state of American economy and the rapid progress India has made, people just wonder that perhaps India might be a good option.

While it still is a personal choice and done by ones will, it is still a good deal circumstance too. When immigrants left for America, no one wanted to leave their country, life and culture behind. They did it because it was a choice they had to make to have a successful life. They continued to cling to and be reminiscent of home. If this indeed becomes a trend, I doubt it will be a sheer joy of returning home. It will be a life choice and many will sit back and think of 'home', the home they were born to and grew up in.


Agree with you on bolded part...and pretty much rest of your post as well. Privatization and opening up of economy back home has definitely helped this trend BUT i feel it's more to do with losing the job they had here because it moved back home rather than making a choice out of their own free will if they happen to be gainfully employed here. The 'trend', as I see, is of those people moving back that have no other option left here in the U.S. For example, lot of Indians on H1 visa lost their jobs in financial sector here before they could get their greencard due to the current financial crash. They really have no other way out then to return back to India. Same goes for techies - even the ones who happen to have a greencard or citizenship. What will they do here when their job is shipped back.

Originally posted by: SholaJoBhadkey

Like RTH, I don't feel it's a trend yet. The number of people wanting to leave India to go and live in the States is much larger compared to those who want to return to India. As the article says, things have become more accessible and readily available. And even though many people may not admit it, cheap labour (maids, drivers, gardeners etc) is a huge attraction, too. Plus these people have a huge advantage - they can always relocate to the States if things don't work out, or even better - relocate to Dubai 😉😆

The article makes it sound like making a choice among two alternatives. My take is that for most people, it is mainly due to the only choice left for them to make. That said; I still worry about my kids moving out of States. I can already see how inclined my older one is to spend some part of her life in Europe. She loves India but can't stand the falling infrastructure, bad law and order situation etc. One can only control the environment inside their home. Once you step outside, you are helpless...even with all the money you have at your disposal. So yes, that option about relocating back to States will always help if one does want to just test the waters in the beginning.

The basic difference between us coming here or us going back (that this article missed) is that when we came here, not only we were coming to a better economy but to a country with lot better infrastructure, law and order etc. When we go back - we do get better amneties WITHIN OUR HOMES but we take a huge stepdown as far as infrastructre and law and order is concerned. On top of that, terrorism and regionalism is getting worst in India whereas here, racialism is declining each passing day. Hence, I do not agree with the writer when he makes it sound like a choice people make out of their own free will.



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Posted: 17 years ago
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It's not a trend yet and unlikely to be anytime soon. For that to happen, economic conditions here have to get really dire compared to India, or India has to present significantly better opportunities across the board. People either need to find a huge opportunity gap to overcome the hurdle rate and migrate, as was the case decades ago when the US was clearly the place to be and the early gen came here, or they need a kick in their rear, as was the case in Idi Amin's Uganda. Over time, people have had a lot vested in their lives here. They are not about to make a move for marginal gains. Also, forget about the emotional pull homeward. Desis might be a senti lot, but they are not exactly an impractical lot either.😊
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I dont know about India calling but calling India has certainly gotten cheaper thanks to calling cards. What's it these days? 10-20 cents a minute?😆

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