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Posted: 13 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: akanna


In TKT, Piyali is a classical dancer, and hope she will be able to shine... Both Varun and Pradeep are good, but they dont get any hype... Varun being from the South is also a problem for getting votes -- very few people watch DID in the South... Pradeep is from Assam, and people there also prefer to watch more regional shows, and they have most of the Zee reality shows locally as well, for their regional zone, in their lingo... So let's wait and see.. My gut feeling is that this season Terence would be made to strive with 1 or 2 dancers, the same way Geeta did in DID1 and Remo did in DID2...


i just finished downloading and watching the epis till date, piyali is pathetic dancer to say least. even the girl who did kuchipudi was better than her and sanchita was also miles better. Agree, sanchita wasnt so great either, her chorepgraphy simpler, not a variety of mudras ans step. still it was more tight and strong than piyali's act. oh well

do not underestimate pradeep, he is from assam . people from north eastern India, northern bengal, sikkim, rarely come in pan indian limelight so and there usually have huge sentiments when someone makes it to such big platforms and represent them. they do mass voting. Pradeep might turn out to be a dark horse and end up to top 2/3.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tannistha


don't worry, i also do not like the in depth classical dances anymore, i like more fushion, but actually if u have the aptitude, its not very difficult for a classical dancer to train in western forms, terrence is a supreme example of it. He is contemporary dancer and kathak dancer too. also nikitasha had jazz and kuchipudi training.shampa, sushant's choreo in jdj4, is also a classical dancer, and she trained in western much later.





Yes... Terence, Shampa, Tashu, Vrushali, Amrita, and all are good examples of people who could do both classical and non-classical effortlessly and beautifully... Shampa is trained in classical since young, and then joined TLA and started working on western styles.. She is an excellent dancer like Terence, and assisted him on Nachle Ve and also is part of his dance team...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tannistha


i just finished downloading and watching the epis till date, piyali is pathetic dancer to say least. even the girl who did kuchipudi was better than her and sanchita was also miles better. Agree, sanchita wasnt so great either, her chorepgraphy simpler, not a variety of mudras ans step. still it was more tight and strong than piyali's act. oh well

do not underestimate pradeep, he is from assam . people from north eastern India, northern bengal, sikkim, rarely come in pan indian limelight so and there usually have huge sentiments when someone makes it to such big platforms and represent them. they do mass voting. Pradeep might turn out to be a dark horse and end up to top 2/3.



Lemme tell ya this first - I am so relieved to know that Bengal region folks will vote for their contestant even if they watch more of regional show.. Thank you! I am so relieved, I was so worried thinking a brilliant dancer would not be recognized because he comes from non-Hindi region... My worries are still there for Varun though...

Honestly I didnt have watched the mega audition episodes, and watched a lot of the audition parts by fast forwarding.. In my mind I thought if I know the top 18 first and then watch the auditions, I can focus on the selected ones more, instead of being upset about the ones I had likes and didnt get selected.. Boy, was I wrong or what!! LOL... My stress level was still the same when I watched it after top 18 were published...

Now I have watched Sanchita's acts in Kolkata and the top 36 solo.. Her first act was more semi-classical than a classical to me, plus I felt her moves are slightly fast paced than the traditional BN.. I assume BN goes thru some transformations as it moves East, West and North.. Because in the South, BN has several versions like Kathak has... Thanjavur style, Kalakshetra style, Kancheepuram style, etc to name a few types.. So which type one's Guru follows is also a key, plus the graduated student will add his or her own style to it...

Anyway, Sanchita's second solo in mega audition was way better, it had more traditional mudras and postures, but a few steps were still a bit too fast for BN.. My pov though... I have watched hundreds, thousands of BN acts so far, and also the performances of some of the best ones, so I felt that way.. Yet, I agree with ya that her act was better than Piyali's... I didnt get the exciting connection with hers for the Kathak acts.. I felt she missed the punch in it, the force of her footwork didnt come across as very strong... I guess Dada selected her over Sanchita because of how they showed Sanchita's background and the way she had the about to cry face.. I didnt understand his logic in some other selections and rejections too...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@akanna i do agree with terrific dancers like terrence ,shampa who does any style with so much ease and they proved it a lot of time,i used to watch jdj only for shampa she is awesome,no words for terrence he can do anything. during terrence sirs act on "kya kare" infront of govinda, i was like OMG. his moves were so smooth,the transitions,expression,even when he came down and got back to stage i couldnt feel a strain, it was like he is walking normally,none of the background dancers cud match up with it.even now i always compares it when any contestants comes down the stage to do a step or two.and his expression on kathak wow.i really wants to see master terrence kathak act even if it is for one minute.

but if you see the auditions only a few of the classical dancers who are not trained in other styles could pass the choreography rounds,most of them were rejected . tashu had training in western dance also she did it better than vrushali,kruti and amrita in choreo rounds also, as it was shown,about others it shows masters ability to mould them and ofcourse their hardwork and dedication.it is difficult for a classical dancer to do other styles and viceversa but the problem is that a non classical dancer can sustain long in DID even with out attempting any classical dance form. nobody is gonna to question their versatility and all infact nobody will even notice that they havent done a classical form,but a classical dancer can never sustain in DID without attempting western dance,everbody will start questioning,also audience support and votes will also be very less, thats why i feel DID is not an easy platform for classical dancers.

Piyali is emerging as a gud dancer i think. about sanchita i wont say she was very good but she was definitely better than piyali,so i felt that was unfair.

Sneha kapoor's elmination was a shock, she was really good,if only that step dipping was wrong then what about lipsa's isolations,.i found it boring actually except the start.nandu was really good.

Hardik and abhik on tie was GM serious ???hardik lost the control on prop once and abhik;s act was not at all smooth,and the start that remo pointed out , the persons who made mistakes were given one more chance. who performed well was evicted wat a gr8 thought.

i loved both sneha's bonding with terrence sir,
terrence accepted the mistake done by varun in salsa,remo admitted hardiks mistake on prop
but geeta is not ready to accept that urvashi did a mistake,she is telling its all of their mistake,so that contestants luks gud infront of dada and crowd.tat seems stupid for me no offense to anyone but sorry i was irritated.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: akanna



Lemme tell ya this first - I am so relieved to know that Bengal region folks will vote for their contestant even if they watch more of regional show.. Thank you! I am so relieved, I was so worried thinking a brilliant dancer would not be recognized because he comes from non-Hindi region... My worries are still there for Varun though...

Nope, bengal region folks do not bother much, plus we are a little traditional when it comes to culture, for one contemporary dancer you will find 10 classical dancer and people like me who have ballet training also started out with classical in childhood or has classical training.

but pradeep is from assam, NE India people have this sentiment, case in point debojit, baichung, amit paul, jeetumoni all were winners.

Honestly I didnt have watched the mega audition episodes, and watched a lot of the audition parts by fast forwarding.. In my mind I thought if I know the top 18 first and then watch the auditions, I can focus on the selected ones more, instead of being upset about the ones I had likes and didnt get selected.. Boy, was I wrong or what!! LOL... My stress level was still the same when I watched it after top 18 were published...

same here, i just got internet, so I already knew about the top 18 and was thinking may be people were overrating some contestants. But no. I must however appreciate the top 18 selection, masters are now all selecting top 18 together before dividing them in groups, It will reduce chances of people like geeta sacrificing someone for her own assistant. Although by how much i do not know. There were better dancers than lipsa and urvashi. Oh, all the standby s r guys this time, not a single girl.

Now I have watched Sanchita's acts in Kolkata and the top 36 solo.. Her first act was more semi-classical than a classical to me, plus I felt her moves are slightly fast paced than the traditional BN.. I assume BN goes thru some transformations as it moves East, West and North.. Because in the South, BN has several versions like Kathak has... Thanjavur style, Kalakshetra style, Kancheepuram style, etc to name a few types.. So which type one's Guru follows is also a key, plus the graduated student will add his or her own style to it...


Anyway, Sanchita's second solo in mega audition was way better, it had more traditional mudras and postures, but a few steps were still a bit too fast for BN.. My pov though... I have watched hundreds, thousands of BN acts so far, and also the performances of some of the best ones, so I felt that way.. Yet, I agree with ya that her act was better than Piyali's... I didnt get the exciting connection with hers for the Kathak acts.. I felt she missed the punch in it, the force of her footwork didnt come across as very strong... I guess Dada selected her over Sanchita because of how they showed Sanchita's background and the way she had the about to cry face.. I didnt understand his logic in some other selections and rejections too...


No you are right, i too felt she did quite simple steps. She herself said her first act was more of a fushion to get herself noticed. her second act was a little too short i guess, but i loved the pace. There are not really much transformations but it depends on where you are learning. I assume sanchita didn't have a chance to learn from the likes of govindan kutti and thankumani kutti. Anyways, i liked that she was fast, i like a little fast moving classical steps, doesnt make me bored that way, and also when done a little fast it makes you grab your attention. Slightly fast paced Indian classical has such rapid changes in such short time in terms of mudra etc, no contemporary of the world can compare to it.

to top it, piyali chose kaahe ched and murdered it. It was sacrilege to maharaj ji and MD.
IF BG is the reason, why would have chosen mohina, her BG was also highlighted a lot. BTW: i think although dada was the one who was doing the announcement, its the masters who did the choosing and passed on the list. I am watching it since doubles, maybe again to give people assurance that there arent any nepotism here.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: justforlife1


but if you see the auditions only a few of the classical dancers who are not trained in other styles could pass the choreography rounds,most of them were rejected . tashu had training in western dance also she did it better than vrushali,kruti and amrita in choreo rounds also, as it was shown,about others it shows masters ability to mould them and ofcourse their hardwork and dedication.it is difficult for a classical dancer to do other styles and viceversa but the problem is that a non classical dancer can sustain long in DID even with out attempting any classical dance form. nobody is gonna to question their versatility and all infact nobody will even notice that they havent done a classical form,but a classical dancer can never sustain in DID without attempting western dance,everbody will start questioning,also audience support and votes will also be very less, thats why i feel DID is not an easy platform for classical dancers.


You stole my word, I do not why does it happen like that every single time. Vrushali and amrita also were trained in ballroom, contemporary. i remember terrence specially mentioning amrita that she was a surprise packet after his round of audition.
I so so agree with you. Its like classical dancers must prove themselved over and over again while hip hop dancers and contemporay dancers can float away through the whole season without doing any classical or semi classical and finally if geeta throws a challenge round, do some semi classical. Sometimes i wonder, is the show really DID. Instead of shouting classical this , classical that, classical treasure, maybe the mentors might also actually try to do some classical act, thereby teaching their contestants the real dance treasure of India.


Piyali is emerging as a gud dancer i think. about sanchita i wont say she was very good but she was definitely better than piyali,so i felt that was unfair.

Sneha kapoor's elmination was a shock, she was really good,if only that step dipping was wrong then what about lipsa's isolations,.i found it boring actually except the start.nandu was really good.

I guess shena was eliminated coz in all the 4 epis what she did was mainly salsa and nothing else. but still lipsa getting saved is a wonder.Piyali imo is pathetic, what is the point of taking one and making her good and giving her chances after chances while they could have taken someone good and making her better.


Hardik and abhik on tie was GM serious ???hardik lost the control on prop once and abhik;s act was not at all smooth,and the start that remo pointed out , the persons who made mistakes were given one more chance. who performed well was evicted wat a gr8 thought.

i loved both sneha's bonding with terrence sir,
terrence accepted the mistake done by varun in salsa,remo admitted hardiks mistake on prop
but geeta is not ready to accept that urvashi did a mistake,she is telling its all of their mistake,so that contestants luks gud infront of dada and crowd.tat seems stupid for me no offense to anyone but sorry i was irritated.


geeta never accepts any mistakes. Her contestants are the only amazing people( even if they give poor performances like the one urvashi gave this saturday), they are the only ones who are hardworking, sincere, honest, never say never and trying better than best to be the best. Its same old story.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@justforlife1 -- I agree with everything you had said on previous page... Only if Tashu was in GKG or TKT, she would have shined more.. I like Remo, and I am so proud of him too since he comes from our place, but I always feel he doesnt know how to make girls shine.. Boys do so well with him, but girls get overshadowed... Tashu was like a shining star at the start, and so was Bhawna, but soon they started to go unnoticed...

Amrita also has a strong background of Contemporary, not only Manipuri training, that's why her techniques were so strong in her performances.. Vrushali also tried hard to come out of her shell and did well too, but I never understood why the viewers made her go so early.. I was so in love with her expressions already!! Kruti on the other hand looked good because of Terence I think, because she looked so dull in her western acts on DKS.. I remember her first duo with Vandu, on Jazz, and she was so good.. Quality of TL's training..

Yes, most classical dancers were finding it too hard in choreography round, even the Bollywood round... It was like they couldnt take it anymore and already given up... I think it's all in the mind, just let your body lose, and then you should be able to do other styles too without too much faults.. They might be having a mental lock, because classical dances are more traditional and conservative, and it's hard to come out of that "culture" shell very soon.. Just my thoughts, looking from their views...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tannistha

nope, assam is a different state, north eastern India, its just that the language is quite similar, i can understand a little assamese too,. Its like tamil, telegu and kannada, usually I see my friends , when one of it a mother tongue can follow atleast the other language, same here.Kolkata is the only noticeable big city in the whole eastern north eastern regions. Now although there are lots of development but still it is like the nerve centre, so many people from assam, tripura manipur, arunachal come here to study. languages of assam is assamese, tripura uses bengali but their original language is a little different. Kolkata being the most important cultural ,business capital has a hige influence on cultural stuff. Yes, me my sister, we were both trained in classical music and dance right from a very young age. people do follow DID, but not as much as in the hindi speaking region. Besides we have the disease of being intellectual and these masala stuff are app " downmarket". thats why most classical dancers who are initially picked are people auditioning from kolkata

I remember how SRGMP singers from Kolkata and around the region were supported so well there.. Maybe not so much for dance I guess, because it's not a classical dance show... That explains why my Assmese friend said she understands and speaks Bengali well.. I thought they all speak Bengali... I speak Malayalam, but I only understand Tamil.. Not a word of Kannada or Telugu! They are so different from my language...


true and its a shame, coz this season the masters have really upped their act. I thought most of the contestants this time are hardcore professionals, like not just normal dancer choreographer but people who have worked in platforms similarly huge, maybe thats the reason, people r too much technical and proffessional and the raw passion is missing.,

Yes, this time they had the requirement that the contestants must be trained in at least one dance form.. But still many untrained ones showed up... Then they said they want dancers who are born to dance... So I think they looked at the determination and passion for dance... I agree, someone like Alisha or Amar would have been good to see...



sanchita's beginning was meh but then she picked up.

I liked her mega audition act more... She also reminded me of Amrita..


last season they brought back sajjan and melvin for wild card, i wish, so wish they would give sanchita one chance. Maybe these huge drama of family opposing etc is the card they are planning to play.

Possible, esp since they dont have many female contestants for WC round..


I dont know if the masters do the picks, then I am sure Crocroach would have been in top 18.. The fact that he wasnt even selected to be in Stand-by team, I feel Dada or the producers made all the final picks... The masters picked the top 100 and then the top 36...
hm i am not sure, maybe they felt cockroach lacked something? 😕

In fact the masters gave good comments to him for both solo auditions... All masters seem to have liked it, esp Terence and Remo...

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