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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: shootingstar27

I agree with most of your view except your point on Urvashi.

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Here's a link to her mohiniattam performance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZotZyYdTfM8I'd love to hear your thoughts on it as you mentioned you have learnt is for six years.

but we are judging the contestants based on what they have shown on DID so far...how are we supposed to know of their work outside DID?? I liked the video you linked...she appeared graceful while dancing. Now only if she impresses us in DID!


@the topic starter, great post! Agree with most of your observations ...nicely compiled together! 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Moderator-

It too early to judge DID3 contestants. 😊

For someone to be called a true dancing star, you have to watch him performing different styles and see how he/she improves himself based on the comments of the mentors. Its a learning process for everyone out there. Doesn't matter if these guys win or lose the show, if they rectify their weaknesses in dancing or improve themselves at choreographing then they are bound to have bright future in entertainment industry.

@DID2. Yes it was pretty fair that Shakti won the show. If you look at her journey from auditions to finale, she drastically improved and showed versatility.



I AGREE!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tannistha

HI at both akanna and justforlife1

It is not just mallus, even my folks at home do not watch Zee or star and dont have them, they prefer regional channels, they mostly watch bengali channels and reality shows. It something that regional shows focus more or regional talent and is relatively fuss free and then can relate to them somehow? Also shows like DID cater to an extended viewership and might happen they skew to some zones or favour them( it might not be true but for example so few dancers from souht, even if they make it to top 18 remains at all).

As for the extraordinary classical dancers, most of them really do not like to go to shows like DID or DBD, coz classical is never given much importance here, most people want to watch filmy or western stuff and thats what is presentd. classical dancers, who have been in the dancing for long somehow feels the classical dance is slighted( yes geeta shouts a lot about classical but we all know when it comes to actual classical dance she does nothing, remo and terrence are atleast better than her). MY Dance teacher herself said she doesn't like such shows and alhough her daughter is an upcoming oddissi dancer, she isnt very interested in participating in such shows either. They get more fame and recognition by sticking to classical itself, sp touring outside India etc.

Remo had a solo act on LM, on singh is king, with robotics, divyam was out that day.

Somehow i thought remo was quite good with bhanva and tashu in season 2, specially the fish contemporary he did with bhavna.

no comments on binny, i still wonder how she made it that far.



In fact that explains why some regional dancers dont get votes and get to the top, even after proving themselves as good contestants... I wish this changes... People should vote for the best performer and talent, then the regional dancers wouldnt be eliminated prematurely if they are good... I am surprised that even dancers from Bangalore fail to get votes when many folks in BLR do watch the show!! I have a bunch of friends there following DID, and yet when it comes to votes, I dont see the numbers!! I guess they vote for dancers from their region of origin, if they bother to vote at all... Most people there just watch, and even support some dancers in their heart, but do not vote for that dancer I think... At least this time Varun is a great dancer, and I hope he will get votes regardless of his region.. If not, that will be sad and discouraging for dancers from the South to come forward to DID...

I agree with ya regarding Classical dancers.. DID has also proved in both seasons that the viewers dont want to keep classical dancers even if they are very good, in other styles as well... They all got eliminated too early even after proving their talent,,,, Regarding Geeta's classical background, I am not really sure about it since she has never shown a pure classical dance act, neither herself nor by her team!! She has done some semi-classical acts, but more than semi-classical they were Bollywood and Freestyle forms... She does Bollywood very well, but I would like to see some pure Classical numbers from her team, choreographed by her.. At least she should mention which classical dance form she is trained in, when she is carrying the label of "classical expert"... 🤔 Yes, the classical dance teachers I know also think the same, they dont want their daughters or students to be on the show...

Remo was good with Bhavana in DID2, but she got eliminated before the WC round... She had confidence issues, and an introvert too, but she never overcome that in her... Tashu did better, I agree, but Tashu's classical acts were of hers, not of Remo's.. And again, Tashu too was eliminated too soon, once the voting started... I liked the Chaand act of Tashu and the Fish act of Bhavana, but they were not as outstanding as the duets Terence did for his team... I know what the real problem is with Remo's team gals, it's their outfits and how they carry in them... Terence is very good in that, and his team gals carry themselves well in any outfit...

I still like Binny a lot, she has done some good acts, and some real horrible ones... I think the hype that Dada gave Binny in all episodes also helped her, plus she is cute and you know how many people vote for looks... 👎🏼
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: akanna



In fact that explains why some regional dancers dont get votes and get to the top, even after proving themselves as good contestants... I wish this changes... People should vote for the best performer and talent, then the regional dancers wouldnt be eliminated prematurely if they are good... I am surprised that even dancers from Bangalore fail to get votes when many folks in BLR do watch the show!! I have a bunch of friends there following DID, and yet when it comes to votes, I dont see the numbers!! I guess they vote for dancers from their region of origin, if they bother to vote at all... Most people there just watch, and even support some dancers in their heart, but do not vote for that dancer I think... At least this time Varun is a great dancer, and I hope he will get votes regardless of his region.. If not, that will be sad and discouraging for dancers from the South to come forward to DID...

I agree with ya regarding Classical dancers.. DID has also proved in both seasons that the viewers dont want to keep classical dancers even if they are very good, in other styles as well... They all got eliminated too early even after proving their talent,,,, Regarding Geeta's classical background, I am not really sure about it since she has never shown a pure classical dance act, neither herself nor by her team!! She has done some semi-classical acts, but more than semi-classical they were Bollywood and Freestyle forms... She does Bollywood very well, but I would like to see some pure Classical numbers from her team, choreographed by her.. At least she should mention which classical dance form she is trained in, when she is carrying the label of "classical expert"... 🤔 Yes, the classical dance teachers I know also think the same, they dont want their daughters or students to be on the show...

Remo was good with Bhavana in DID2, but she got eliminated before the WC round... She had confidence issues, and an introvert too, but she never overcome that in her... Tashu did better, I agree, but Tashu's classical acts were of hers, not of Remo's.. And again, Tashu too was eliminated too soon, once the voting started... I liked the Chaand act of Tashu and the Fish act of Bhavana, but they were not as outstanding as the duets Terence did for his team... I know what the real problem is with Remo's team gals, it's their outfits and how they carry in them... Terence is very good in that, and his team gals carry themselves well in any outfit...

I still like Binny a lot, she has done some good acts, and some real horrible ones... I think the hype that Dada gave Binny in all episodes also helped her, plus she is cute and you know how many people vote for looks... 👎🏼


Region and viewership, revenues plays a huge role for fr show organisation and although DID is quite clean still it is a tv show and end of the day it has to make profit.
geeta i think might have some kathak training, she did bits and pieces in LM and DKS, and her movements an expressions are quite good.
classical dancing : youtube is muchbetter place to watch classical, i think it was extremely fortunate that people like kruti came to the show. it is also extremely unfortunate that the culture we are so proud of , and brag off the first opening we get, is let down by the very us. I mean DID is first made for India and then for the handful of nris, so its us Indias who are rejecting our own culture

true, remo cannot make his girls look pretty, they are too in your face sexy( remember the 3 girl act, tashu was looking visible embarrased, i mean tailor the clothes proportional to their size, same size pants for thee xtremely thin, two relatively short and then taller and stronger tashu

except for a couple of binny act( ore piya) i do not like her, she was totally there for hype and pretty. Which is very bad, dancing is not acting that being pretty should be advantage.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#45
There is no comparison with did 2 and did 3..platforms are higher. All Dancers are great. Good selection by the judges.
I think Manju being eliminated was not a good decision, as Piyali need to there. Urvashi is beautiful and talented, she dances really well, can't help to judge based on oo la la, as you could see her partner paul didn't do justice by dropping her and not lifting her where she had to be lifted. Paul is a good dancer as a solo. The rest of the couple dancers partners were supporting their partners well.
Urvashi, you will go a long way..

People should stop living in the past, and watch and talk about the current did 3. Not compare.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tannistha


Region and viewership, revenues plays a huge role for fr show organisation and although DID is quite clean still it is a tv show and end of the day it has to make profit.
geeta i think might have some kathak training, she did bits and pieces in LM and DKS, and her movements an expressions are quite good.
classical dancing : youtube is muchbetter place to watch classical, i think it was extremely fortunate that people like kruti came to the show. it is also extremely unfortunate that the culture we are so proud of , and brag off the first opening we get, is let down by the very us. I mean DID is first made for India and then for the handful of nris, so its us Indias who are rejecting our own culture

true, remo cannot make his girls look pretty, they are too in your face sexy( remember the 3 girl act, tashu was looking visible embarrased, i mean tailor the clothes proportional to their size, same size pants for thee xtremely thin, two relatively short and then taller and stronger tashu

except for a couple of binny act( ore piya) i do not like her, she was totally there for hype and pretty. Which is very bad, dancing is not acting that being pretty should be advantage.



I also assume Geeta has Kathak training or Kuchipudi, because she did a Kuchipudi act and a Kathak act for Siddesh in DID1... Her expressions are truly good, I agree, and so are her moves, that's why I like her Bollywood and Freestyle numbers a lot.. 😃

Yes, I too think and wonder about the same every season, why classical dancers are praised and then eliminated very early... And then many people make fuss about the show having western dance styles and western outfits, then why not vote for the classical dancers and keep them? I always get baffled with this hypocrisy... I see the opposite happen in my place - Kerala, where classical dancers are preferred more and most contestants are classically trained...

I dont know what goes wrong with the girls' outfits in RKR.. Maybe the outfits and the dance moves combined together make it look bad.. In that trio act, they were made to do pole dance moves!! That dance style is not done on stage in US and all...

About Binny, I also feel that Zee had some serial contract with her, so they had to make her stay to make her a popular face for their serial viewers... 😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@akanna
I am also damn proud to be a mallu. i love to be the same.
good to hear that remo got some connection with kerala,i vl start loving him even more . i think i have read about Santosh Nair in some article of hindu long back i thnk.
abt all other shows in our regional channel i am sorry i dont watch tv much ,DID and saregamapa
is the only show that i watch coz i never felt it is rigged.

@Tannistha

i think it is pretty obvious that classical teachers doesnt want their child to participate in such shows,
coz classical dance is really big and most of the classical dance narrates a story through their act and it is pretty difficult to show it in 2.30 minute or so,like kruti showed the act of pandavas losing the game to kauravas and the draupathi vastrakshep,and krishna coming to save her, it was shown very beautifully in such a short time hats off to her for execution,and her teachers for setting it.but she was ready to do all other acts also and only versatile dancers can sustain in DID.for classical teachers it is pretty difficult to accept the western dances and to be frank very few dancers can do justice to both . once my frnd a trained bharathanatyam dancer ended up doing a western group dance in our college and she was looking so odd bcoz her eyes and hands were moving the way she does in classical and the moves where looking so feminine (have to mention dance was on song "dhoom machale") they might also be feeling the same,also they might scared that their children will loose interest in classical dance once they are in to limelight,famous.

everybody gives more importance to their regional shows coz all of them are more familiar to the language used ofcourse its a family time and all family members must be able to understand the language,also they can understand the lyrics of songs used ,and somewhere down the line feels connected to contestants,.when only very few contestants like varun,shafir,paulson,kishoret o whom we feel this connection , where as in regional shows there is a lot,tat can be a reason DID doesnt get famous enough in other places where Hindi is not a colloquial language


For early exit of classical dancers in shows we all are responsible to some extend.coz in youtube i just checked it and found that as on now
kruti's classical dance- 60729Views,
nikitasha kuchipudi - 51723 views
shakthi-amar(khuda jaane) 596113views
shakthi popping 250985views
dharmesh(act with doll)- 227521views

see the difference a clear proof that classical dance fails to entertain common people,and have to admit it with a bit of regret that i am one among them,i had seen khuda jaane much more than krutis act.

I cant beleive that sneha kapoor is evicted from the show,she was good,feels bad for terrence coz i dont have much expectation with other 2 girls in TKT.i hope his boys will remain till end.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Something went wrong with the IF connection -- hence double posted!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@justforlife1 -- Thank you dear.. One of the best music reality show is Gandharva Sangeetham, on Kairali, since there is no sms, and is the first reality show on mallu TV, and has been running for over ten years now.. Since it's in the name of the great singer Yesudas, the channel makes sure to keep the standards up, and always bring the best in their judging panel.. last season, M. Jayachandran was the main judge, and the sub-group of judges will always have singers with classical background... I also love SRGMP, though the best doesnt always win...

I agree with your points regarding classical dancers and their difficulty to do other styles... But I believe if the mentor/master has the skills to help them come out of their shell and help them to hide their flaws in their performances while displaying their strengths, they would be able to overcome that difficulty... One strong classical dancer who can also do cinematic dances well is Shobana, imo..

But regional shows also have many acts on Hindi, Tamil, Telugu songs, and not always Malayalam songs... :s

Honestly I never felt connected to Kishore.. Or Salman when he was from Bangalore.. Paulson to an extend I did, and now have to see how it goes with Shafeer.. Maybe that in my mind I know neither Paulson nor Shafeer represent the best of our talents, not even closer to our above average talent pool... But then the best always prefer to stay within regional limelight, cant blame them as they get more recognition there... As long as DID is not popular in Kerala, even if they all show up on DID, most people wouldnt even know or watch them... That's why I wish that DID gets popular in South one day...

Even I loved Khuda Jaane act so much, that all acts I have seen for that song after Amar-Shakti act, I could never enjoy any of them...

In TKT, Piyali is a classical dancer, and hope she will be able to shine... Both Varun and Pradeep are good, but they dont get any hype... Varun being from the South is also a problem for getting votes -- very few people watch DID in the South... Pradeep is from Assam, and people there also prefer to watch more regional shows, and they have most of the Zee reality shows locally as well, for their regional zone, in their lingo... So let's wait and see.. My gut feeling is that this season Terence would be made to strive with 1 or 2 dancers, the same way Geeta did in DID1 and Remo did in DID2...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: justforlife1

@akanna

@Tannistha

i think it is pretty obvious that classical teachers doesnt want their child to participate in such shows,
coz classical dance is really big and most of the classical dance narrates a story through their act and it is pretty difficult to show it in 2.30 minute or so,like kruti showed the act of pandavas losing the game to kauravas and the draupathi vastrakshep,and krishna coming to save her, it was shown very beautifully in such a short time hats off to her for execution,and her teachers for setting it.but she was ready to do all other acts also and only versatile dancers can sustain in DID.for classical teachers it is pretty difficult to accept the western dances and to be frank very few dancers can do justice to both . once my frnd a trained bharathanatyam dancer ended up doing a western group dance in our college and she was looking so odd bcoz her eyes and hands were moving the way she does in classical and the moves where looking so feminine (have to mention dance was on song "dhoom machale") they might also be feeling the same,also they might scared that their children will loose interest in classical dance once they are in to limelight,famous.





I agree most acts are long and its not easy to shorten it in 2.5 minutes, it takes skill. But to some extent i feel some classical dance exponents do not like to come out of comfort zone either. Frankly why would they, coz in a country like US, where they go for tours, the so called hi level contemporary dancing that we see here in DID is like childs play and classical dances are new exotic different , enchantingand the dancers get more fame and recognition.

don't worry, i also do not like the in depth classical dances anymore, i like more fushion, but actually if u have the aptitude, its not very difficult for a classical dancer to train in western forms, terrence is a supreme example of it. He is contemporary dancer and kathak dancer too. also nikitasha had jazz and kuchipudi training.shampa, sushant's choreo in jdj4, is also a classical dancer, and she trained in western much later.

sneha kapoor 's performance and the act was quite average compared to the 4 great acts of today evening and from the preview, the other's were extremely good in elimination round, maybe thats why sneha got eliminated, it was just not her day.

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