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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: visrom

😕They were played by 3 different actresses...and two of them had different names too...Swaranjali and Manisha...the third lady who called Freddie Ladoo in Daya's kidnap episode has no name. So we have 3 wives of Freddie.

Yah Thats True...
Manisha is mostly heared name of his wife...Thats Y i said, FW is looking "ANARIES" not experienced...😕
And Same Abt Daya, In very Old episodes There was one Brother of him and his family...Then He became Orphan and then Sister..Uff Bht Confussion ha bai...😕
i m sure Characters b Confuse hon ga Abt Their Characters...😕😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Actually FW have a habit to forget everything as a result we see different wife of Freddy sir...Salunkhe sir sometime mention about his wife sometime girl friend...ACP sir had a wife present only Blind series but further never saw her even she had no reaction on her son's death...Daya sir had a brother(Injured Witness) & a sister (Target CID) after that he become an orphan 😲 and Abhijit sir - his past (kuch bhi dekhate hein)...I think we know about CID & their character more than the FW...

As some of u mention about Tji factor...yeah now it's really irritating though it is irritating for us from the beginning but now it is too much...
Another point i agree with u that in recent cases start with all such khoon & laash...somehow they more concentrate on the side character spending too much time in the beginning...the previous starting from bureau is far better ...
Another point is their dialogue...previously they used the mixture of hindi & english which sounds very good...but now they talks only in hindi
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: debasree04

I think we know about CID & their character more than the FW...

Absoultly, No Doubth...
Once FW said that in an interview..That they Even dont rember all the cases stories of CID that they have made till now...I think Mr.Dousza said this..."Saf zahir ha CID repeated Case Stories sa k unna apni old Stories yaad nahen thats y thery are repeating that katti jalli old Stories plots now a days"...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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As of now ... the major change I want is that Freddy's character should get it's due ... this man has been serving in CID for a long time ... more than duo !! It's high time he rises above the "Yes sir .. No sir" ... After Viivek left the show ... my worry for Freddy sir has increased more ... with no Viivek also ... I don't want them to treat him like any aira gaira !! Freddy sir deserves much much more !!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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See all crime investigative shows of hollywood do show some kind of life of the charecters, but they show it in a way which does not tnterfere with the main storyline
Showing a charecter as orphan and they suddenly a sister comes or showing two names for a wife are all symptoms of an immeture script
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Posted: 14 years ago
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A whodunit is a whodunit with the same concept, a murder or a kidnapping or a conspiracy, it is shrouded by an enigmatic aura and has to be presented in such a manner that everything in the beginning looks sinister but in the end the explanations should be such that everything falls into place and the motive of the crime looks plausible. Now, why is Sherlock Holmes famous till date, is it that the author spun a tale which came from some outside world, no, obviously not. He simply focused on commonplace things but presented it like a jigsaw puzzle where every piece had a place but the picture became clear when each and every part was intelligently fitted after a lot of pondering. It is the process of bringing out the picture which fills us with intrigue, CID creatives forgot that a long time back.

As for relationships in CID, I do want some but serious ones and the actors opposite our DUO should e complementary and of equal mettle as them. Also, if new writers are coming they should be made clear about the essence of the series and all the characters and their back story too.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Like Deepika mentioned, a mystery thriller, no matter where it is set or what stereotypes they may impose upon it (*cough* a "kid's show" *cough*), will have to incorporate certain concepts that cannot be sidestepped by the genre under any circumstances. One such vital concept is how the investigation is carried out. Like devangi said in the first post, even a good plot could ultimately fall apart if the investigation aspect of it is not done properly.

I'd like to point out old episodes like Clue In The Ashes and Missing Man, which really did not have a terribly complicated plot or anything but the precise and carefully placed clues, red herrings and thought-provoking logical deductions which invited the audience to take part in the proceedings themselves and form theories are what made them so special, which has largely missing from recent episodes. "The show has evolved with time", "the audience now is different" etc. are NOT valid excuses for excluding these concepts, as far as I'm concerned. Nowadays the investigation is so straightforward, with clues magically appearing out of nowhere and the miraculous computers looking up everything in a jiffy, that I wonder if they ever noticed that the "thrill" part of the genre left town long ago. And showing the team in life-threatening situations is not a substitute for that.

Coming back to the main point of the topic, like already mentioned, I think it would be nice to show a few light-hearted moments between the team in the beginning, sometimes. Note that this doesn't mean having Freddy whimpering about ghosts and all that; he's a CID officer first and foremost and they must respect his portrayal considering that - he is jovial, but must show his serious, loyal and brave side when it's time. I'd be much pleased if they also involve police in the proceedings to some extent, and not show just any random person calling the CID when he loses his pencil box (obviously that's an exaggeration, but it sorta emphasizes the point). I'd like to point towards the old episodes again to refer to proper team distribution, a very important aspect that's been handled in a pretty poor and painfully apparent way since last year. The portrayal of criminals and villains should be apt, which has already been discussed in detail.

Regarding the relationships thing, personally I'm indifferent to that but the Abhijeet/Tarika track has always been an awkward oddity that is going nowhere, and is evidently a sort of mascot for the "kid's show" label as we've seen in the Gallantry awards. I think if they can't move it forward properly, then better drop it completely. I'm much more concerned about the mess they've been creating with regard to characterizations, Daya sir's has already been discussed in detail on another thread. Can only repeat what has already been well-said in previous posts, and point out to how will this is handled in other national as well as international shows; why can't they do it here? And also, I hope they make the forensic lab actually look like what it's called - a forensic lab, and not a factory of dyes. 😛 There's a vast scope of improvement in there regarding the procedures shown and methods used, as well.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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hmmm...many things are well said. A mystery genre needs to have three things completely solid- i mean, in their proper place.
1. Ending of the story
2. Plot
3. Characterisation
Even if one goes for a toss, the entire thing does. CID these days has magicked itself out of all the three important ingredients with which it began.

First when did it become a kid's show? this is a major 🤢sentence.
Second, there is no plot . It has gone on a sabbatical since a year.
three personal stories of CID officers needs to have a strong hold on reality otherwise the sort of dumb college boy flirting between a CID sharp shooter (Abhijeet) and a forensic doctor is what we get or the blubbering simpleton life as portrayed by Freddy is what we are in for.

FW is quite cool when it comes to letting go of strong plot lines they seem to start in the first place. Maybe there is a lot of competition among the so called story writers for CID in FW that many of them have tried to strikeoff what someone begins or the dialogue writer makes a hash of it all as he/she is never given a chance to write a plot or FW spoilt an idea that could have been done well.

Whatever, I would say finish with this dumb flirting by an officer who is known for his ruthless way of going after criminals and information that an ACP relies on him with a doctor in th eForensic lab who was brought in as Dr. SAlunke's officer. This has a strong plot line that has been cooly washed off down the years😲 A young lady becomes a senior officer to an experienced frensic doctor means either political clout or caste power or gender politics. A simple reality that could have been shown (which incidentally is happening in many divisions of th epolice force in the country) and viewers could have learnt how ACP and Salunke deal with it in a unemotional way thereby teaching viewers across generation how to handle such situations around them.
Instead we have this flirting😒

To begin with a call done through the right path into the CID bureau would be welcome for a change and not all this apparating and disappearing by team members.

I'll stop now and say more sometime later.
Edited by mallikaBalu - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i agree that the case should start with bureau scenes...preferably freddy's jokes...long time yhere has been no such case where the officers are suspected (atleast not the one like daya was suspended...the abhijeet track included his memory loss..so there was no much to it) ...they should doubt on sachin 1 day( obviously he will come out clean at the end...but it is fun to watch)...there should be more action in the cases (like the entire team fighting the culprits...not like daya each time going and hitting someone hard on the face)...there should be a little emotional touch when it comes to our duo...i dont say that put them on death bed, but something should make me cry...)

i would suggest our duo solve cases together and that acp sir solve with the juniors...it will be balanced...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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thanks everyone for ur replys,as @rukhsar.crazy said dat there shud be some emotional scenes btweem duo,dnt knw why bt i like d cases like Behroopiya,Abhijeet in coma,talking parrot etc,becoz there r sum emotional scenes and d value of dat character,who is injured,is beautifully shown,and cases like Murder in interrogation room,Sr.Inspector Abhijeet etc show d frndship between duo and care frm ACP,for his junior...and overall these episode are intersting to watch,wat do u all think???
plz also giv ur views abt team distribution as @rukhsar.crazy did...
Thanku.

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