Is SI's talent being utilized in CC: My response - Page 9

Originally posted by: goguma

@sunara @aaliyah

which bedroom scene was it..?
so far, i have not seen anything 'offensive'.
or perhaps, i am the only ignorant one here.. 😳

Originally posted by: goguma

@sunara @aaliyah

which bedroom scene was it..?
so far, i have not seen anything 'offensive'.
or perhaps, i am the only ignorant one here.. 😳

Originally posted by: AyeReKhushi

@bold: The first sensible comment you've made, congratulations! I hope you keep you word and stay outta our forum. Why are you even here when you clearly don't watch CC and are not a SI fan? Do you have that much time on your hands? Wouldn't you prefer to spend this time talking about people you actually like? Maybe that's just me because I have a life.

We don't need fangirls to come here and talk about how SI's off-screen segments seem forced now. You wish. That's just what you want to see, that's not reality buddy. The only thing statements like this prove is how DELUSIONAL you are, still making up lies, still hung up on the previous show and jodi. I frankly feel pity that you spend so much time obsessing over SI and her new show and jodi. Then again, what else can you talk about? She's the only one of the previous cast who is still working full time, I haven't seen or heard from the rest of them since the show ended. Hopefully the others start coming in some movies/tv shows soon so y'all can just go away and leave SI alone.

Originally posted by: showviewer

I take your point Diya, Chhanchhan's character is just unfolding and she is married barely for a week and within that she already managed to get some rules bent and that too with the support and blessings of family members. She is good mix of modern yet cultured and sensitive to others sentiment. Modern and liberated automatically does not mean confrontational and aggressive. It takes a lot of give and take to establish relationships and maintain them, they are even more delicate with in-laws.

As the story progresses the creatives might show Chhanchhan finding ways to deal with UB more effectively.

Originally posted by: princessunara

Beautifully replied di!!

Other than for Rima di & Fari and a very few others i wasn't very sure if i was to take the responses very seriously or not...Considering no1 else cribbing are visible providing support for the show on this forum in any case. So 'we still support only for Sanaya' line clearly doesn't apply to many. Not all I would like to emphasize.. there probably r many genuine responses..though most obviously not all..

Anyway I agree word to word. (to tis reply i mean)

First thing, I would like to address an issue. Awards
case in point - ITA awards best actress popular - Sandya from DABH
Now this is not done to put any1 down, but well for me at least the authenticity of awards shows' selections was defined with this. Now had either Sanaya or DD had gotten the award, I would have accepted. yes I am only a SI fan, but nothing else needs to be said than this example on why awards shows NEVER is actually about the ACTRESS who essays a role.
It is hypocritical that an actress who elevates a mediocre role to heights is disregarded and an actress who brings down a well written role with mediocre acting is felicitated simple cz the show has TRPs.

Thus I have NO expectations towards awards.. cz awards on Indian TV awards shows are NOT given based on an actor/actress's capabilities and talent. Thus in all honestly I will say if Khushi didn't get her that, CC most definitely will not either.
Khushi was a precious jewel of a character, BUT on India TV unless a girl weeps and bends over backwards and is all serious and moans that is not considered jury awards material.
And unless a girl's show is NOT rocking the TRP charts she is not consdered as popular actress material.

THUS both CC nor Khushi falls in to either of the above said categories..
Neither character weeps, moans nor is preachy enough. So they do not comply with the norms expected of the awards winning characters..

An actress's talent nor her portrayal matters, the character does. As unfair and illogical and moronic as it is, that is the bitter truth.

Now coming to CC, well compared with Khushi & Gunjan - two characters I adored, CC seems a little less complicated at word go.
But then again the last thing I would call Gunjan is complicated. Khushi was on the other hand a very complicated character that brought a lot of excess baggage and was weighted down by it.

CC indeed came with a lot of promises which the show utterly failed to deliver for 48 episodes. Beginning with a ML that was not suited to even be a spot boy to direction to script to screen play. it SUCKED.

BUT in all honesty the past one month has been very much uplifting and they have managed to salvage most of the done damage starting with a fabulous male lead who compliments her perfectly from acting to good looks.

Now CC being too white, it does seem so right? But i would like to ask a question. Had we been that simple girl who got married and went there.. Are any of us inherently any different? She seems more compassionate than many..but then again its only to be expected considering her regard to animals, which was a main aspect of her character description.
So far we have not been delivered the full goods, but the going for the past month has been very good.
Its fun to watch.. makes me laugh.

Yes CC seems so perfectly uncomplicated. But as I said unlike Khushi who had a troubled childhood, CC was brought up in the lap of luxury and amidst showers of love and emotional and material security. Why will a girl like that even be complicated?
She is not stupid..But Why will she suspect something at first? In her world so far family simply loved, they didn't play games with other family members. Applying this theory she is indeed reacting as good as expected. She is baffled at somethings but still gives the benefit of the doubt to many things UB does.
She has started noticing more and more irregularities and subconsciously she is marking them. But something big will have to happen for her to open her eyes fully.

And another issue - intro of unnecessary new characters trying to attract attention
This is a false claim - dadaji was on that stage on the day the show was launched. It is a well planned entry timed quite well. 5 days after the marriage (in serial time)
The new girl - um.. i wonder if most of u missed the 30 day challenge that was released as the first description of the show? cz 30 day challenge is the premise of this show. AND on the date when CC got married for the 1st time the 30 day challenge was mentioned in the show. BY UB to the prospective 2nd bride's father.
Now i don't think this new entry is a sudden change of plans either. this was also set in motion simply 5 days back in the show's time.

Anyway the show I accept has quite many mistakes. its not perfect, but then again the TRP toppers right now r unbearable for me while I have actually started enjoying CC.

Now coming to the romance.
1 thing I will agree. It was crass at the beginning. Nope not the couple nor what they did, but the cameraman SUCKED. 1 single scene I still recoil. The 1st night when they wore blue and were in the bedroom and the way the camera panned on the specific body parts was painful to watch.. I cringed. And till today I resolutely keep away from the scene.

BUT from that moment onward I have only seen improvement on the romance department. This show managed to beautifully manage romantic scene from that moment onwards. I heard that a Navya show writer was taken on board to manage romantic scenes and it showed on screen too.

Thus instead of mindless romance it started weaving romance in to day to day mundane activities and started using it to build the understanding and bond of the husband and wife.

I know many like to crib at bold scenes. But well um.. tell me simply a husband touching a wife's tummy and tugging her waist chain, cupping her face, embracing her from the back, hugging each other..are these actually bold?
Once u put away the IPK pink tinted glasses its actually a beautiful and soft love story..

This show may even now have many wrongs and shortcomings but one thing they have perfected is the romantic aspect of it.
They have showed a relationship growing instead of showing mindless passion WHICH would have been so out of context had it been done IN this show, considering its family show genre and not a hardcore star crossed love story where such scenes would actually make sense.

Now coming to Sanaya's own acting. Well CC is too much like Sanaya herself that I think till now whatever was shown Sanaya can do blind folded. It has so far been a cakewalk for her with the character.
And hopefully future situations will arise when her responses will create scenes for Sanaya to emote and utilize her energies and talent more often.

But i would like to ask a simple question - the TRP leader Sandhya the female lead. Is she doing ANY spectacular acting? Is her character in anyway very different? So pathbreaking?
The previous TRP leader and awards winner Gopi from SNS. What did she do for acting? Or even as a character? She cried, she sobbed and she wept and she moaned. And apparently that is the best characters on TV!

So tell me is something like BLACK movie being made on TV? Where we would see a physically challenged character?
Will we see a Naina in Kal Ho Na Ho written for TV? Will we?

Where will an actress of the caliber of Sanaya find a character she can showcase her acting chops at?
Yes I agree she deserves better. BUT is there ANYTHING that is good enough for her right now on TV?
So far I cannot think of a single one..

The day they write a story like that one ArHi FF called 'Vines with thorns' by -Zara- with a character like the Khushi in it that I will call is a script worth of Sanaya Irani.
Until then i think Sanaya is doing the best she can with the limited options available on TV.
(Arshi FF~Vines With Thorns~ Thread 1 - this is the link if any1 wants, its a physically handicapped character, beautifully written and something I have dreamed of Sanaya playing)

She doesn't want to do a weepy illiterate bahu - she has always been adamant on this
She has done 1 youth show - a college story
She has done 1 star crossed love story

Now with the limited scripts and genres available on TV what does it leave her with? Something exactly like CC isn't it?

So all I can say is Sanaya played diametrically opposed characters in her previous 2 shows. And when she had to pick a 3rd she had the option to either repeat one of them. But instead she did the only change she could.
Both her previous characters were village girls, and this one she picked from a completely differnt background. Thus she tried her best to be versatile in the very limited options on TV..

So I don't know if i answered the question or simply raised many more. But my point is that she sure deserves more. BUT on TV right now seems like there is no other option for her to go to.

I would any day prefer CC over a weepy grubby suppressed village kudi...

Originally posted by: AyeReKhushi

@bold: The first sensible comment you've made, congratulations! I hope you keep you word and stay outta our forum. Why are you even here when you clearly don't watch CC and are not a SI fan? Do you have that much time on your hands? Wouldn't you prefer to spend this time talking about people you actually like? Maybe that's just me because I have a life.

We don't need fangirls to come here and talk about how SI's off-screen segments seem forced now. You wish. That's just what you want to see, that's not reality buddy. The only thing statements like this prove is how DELUSIONAL you are, still making up lies, still hung up on the previous show and jodi. I frankly feel pity that you spend so much time obsessing over SI and her new show and jodi. Then again, what else can you talk about? She's the only one of the previous cast who is still working full time, I haven't seen or heard from the rest of them since the show ended. Hopefully the others start coming in some movies/tv shows soon so y'all can just go away and leave SI alone.

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Sunara ... FAB post ... 👏👏👏 Another one which deserves a post of its own.

I was going to reply to the points I agree with - and realised I agree with all ... 😆

First ... the people on the thread mentioned ... normally I avoid most of them like the plague, for the same reason as you. Because it was Rima's post I checked it out ... and found ... same old, same old ... 😆 Not all ... but many ...

Awards ... Agree with you completely ... I said this earlier as well ... judging by previous award winners, Chhanchhan will not get awards. As for acting talent, if Khushi did not win any awards for it, CC does not have a chance. Khushi displayed the entire range of emotions, from serious, to tragic, to comic, to romantic to intense, to deeply emotional ... and Sanaya did not win any awards there. They were won by actresses whom I have yet to see with more than two expressions on their faces ... CC has far less range of emotions to display ... she is a normal girl, and Sanaya specifically said she is going to play Chhanchhan as close to real and normal as possible.

Which means not weepy, not preachy, not self-sacrificing, no overly dramatic stuff ... no chance of awards for her!

Coming to Chhanchhan, the character ... Chanchan is a girl of today, she is not complicated, she has been brought up without any complexes or issues, she takes the world at face value and believes in the inherent goodness of people, because that is the way she has been brought up, and the principles she has imbibed. Most of us are similar ... when we go out into the real world, we encounter people different from those we have seen in our sheltered upbringing and meet people with principles and values different from our own, some good, some not so good ... that is the process called growing up. But Chhanchhan's values remain intact ... she remains polite, accepting and looks for the good in everyone around her ... at the same time, she is intelligent so she has started to see some of the injustices and discrepancies in the house. But she is new here, barely a week old in the house ... she is not the morcha type, nor is she confrontational ... she believes in sorting things out through dialogue and finding solutions within acceptable parameters. That has been her character sketch from the start of the show.

Again ... no dramatics here ... but when she discovers Umaben's truth, or after she has established herself more firmly in the house, I think more layers of Chhanchhan will unfold slowly ... the original character sketch also promised that Chhanchhan stands up for what she believes in, and that is what I'm looking forward to watching. Sanaya has so far more or less played herself ... the role is a cake walk for her ...

BUT as Sunara said ... do the current award winners do any better? Are they examples of brilliant acting in any way? Again, if Khushi did not win awards for Sanaya, I don't have much hope of CC doing so, because Khushi was probably the most unusual female lead character on TV in the recent past ... and she went unrecognized. So did the few other actresses who actually DID act well ... honestly those awards don't mean a thing.

Romance ... am not even going there ... all the comments smack more of sour grapes than anything else. Two good actors, who are also good looking, can always create chemistry if given the right scenes and situations ... it's their job. Sanaya's first co-actor in this show wasn't worth being called an actor ... but Anuj is more than decent, and he is very good looking. And Manav's character is well written, now that the actor is able to portray it properly .. also the writing of the romantic scenes, and indeed of the whole show, has improved ... so the chemistry was bound to develop. This is not Sanaya's first successful jodi, it is actually her third ... she has done it twice before, and both the earlier jodis were very different in terms of their USP, BUT they were both very much appreciated and loved, the second of course was a rage. So I'm not surprised she has done it again ... she just needed the right partner and it was a given.

The new entries ... already been said, just to repeat, Dadaji was part of the original cast, his entry is not a surprise at all.

The new girl may be a recent addition ... now that the jodi has been accepted and has taken off in popularity, obviously the makers will capitalise on it. One of the biggest strengths of the show is Sanaya's acting especially in romantic scenes and in emotional scenes ... of course they will make full use of her histrionic abilities. They would be fools not to. And it is obvious they are listening to the feedback and working on it ... that is one very good thing about the show and the cvs here.

There are limited roles on Indian telly ... one of the shows with more unusual roles shut down within three months of launch ... that was the only other show and role I would have liked to see Sanaya in, but even that didn't live up to its potential. Sanaya has chosen out of what is currently available, and has chosen something different from what she has done earlier ... she herself has said she wants to experiment and not stick to the same genre ... she is merely attempting to that that within the confines of what is available. She doesn't write or produce shows, she merely acts in them. I do not feel at all that she is not giving her best ... the role is a cake walk for her and doesn't require much effort ... the biggest effort she put in was to make sure Chhanchhan was as different from Khushi as possible ... again her attempt to be as different as possible. And in that she has succeeded completely ... I see no trace of Khushi in Chhanchhan, nor even of Gunjan. And that is the mark of a good actress.

Originally posted by: Mrs.MuffinSobti

I was just gonna leave this thread but this comment was just so rude.

Is it a crime to still like SI's previous show and jodi? And frankly just because you are mad at the comments some fans have made doesn't really give you the right to talk about other cast members like that. You haven't seen or heard from the rest of them since you obviously don't care to keep up with them! I've seen several people in this forum saying that..um..if you were their fans..you would know that some of them have also been working, some full time also. I could give you a list here but can't mention any names as mentioning any names will cause a war.

And you claim that you are an SI fan? Maybe you are, but that cast was one of the closest to her heart. She says that so many times and here you are making fun of them that some of them aren't currently employed? These are her friends you are talking about. Please be a bit more respectful. Being an SI fan doesn't mean supporting only her and bashing everyone else.