Is SI's talent being utilized in CC: My response - Page 8

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Posted: 12 years ago
#71
Before this gets closed down.
My POV.
It really baffles me as to what the "fans" want.
Fans who can't deal with a girl having a guy friend.
Fans who are offended because a "husband" (character) touches his "wife's" (character) belly...hello...but are ok with a girl (character) being emotionally and physically abused in the name of love
Fans who are ONLY fans because they like the show else they stop being fans...what the...!!!
Shows...movies...they are just that...actors are acting...they act with various other actors...some are good and some are not...some make it and some not...life goes on.
I am a fan of quitea few actors (only two Indian actors) and will watch shows/movies they come in...some I like and some I don't. There are actors I watch who I typically don't like but appreciate the characters they play and applaud them.
Leaving now...I have a headache.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#72
I replied to this post but dang the internet had problems and the reply was lost. So retyping the reply - I may miss out few points but I hope I am able to put my point across.

I have never been a completely fan of actors/actress before IPK - What I mean is I used to watch the story/show until it interested me and if the story went haywire, I used to give up - no qualms about it. Never followed a show because I just got impressed by one actor's portrayal. Followed MJHT but was not a regular viewer as I found the scenes and tracks were OTT and Nupur was way too loud (sorry my opinion strictly). I followed Baat Hamari also because for the first few months that show had some story(of a boy who doesn't want to grow up and who treats everything as a joke as he is the much pampered grandson and finally how love changes him and he stays with his wife who suffers an accident which erases her short term memory) and the way they ended the show at the right time was good. So there that was my initial opinion of both BS and SI and their previous shows. Coming to IPK, the story blew me and had my complete attention. And for this show too, I didn't start from the beginning. I started from 28th or so episode and went back and watched all the episodes and was hooked. After the show ended my honest opinion is that I don't think I can see either BS or SI doing mediocre work and that is why I think CC is failing.

We can't know what has happened and why Sanaya took this show and I am not the one to question it. She felt she did a good decision and is trying to do more different roles and she came in with a good PH. Yes I was a fan of Saas Bina Sasural of Optimystrix and loved that show. The show started in March and it is close to 4th months for the show to be on air. Did CC make an impact ? Nope - not at all. I will give my reasons why CC didn't make an impact and I will compare this show with Saas Bina Sasural only as that would be Apples Vs Apples comparison.

Saas Bina Sasural was a low budget production of Opti and you can see everything is bigger and better in CC. But I feel the makers have gone in to do different things at the same time thereby there are like running in all directions without a firm grip on the story. The promos usually give out the initial story sketch. But the initial promos simply concentrated on Sanaya - It was very clear that the PH and the channel were riding out on SI's popularity. I doubt if the PH had a concrete story on hand when they went for shooting. I am strongly suspecting the story till now has been one that was written as they went by and the PH and the makers didn't exactly know what they are aiming for.

Each show has an underlying concept - a concept that identifies the show. For eg:- Intense love story for IPK, A house without females for Saas Bina Sasural and a story of a girl's journey to her dream of becoming IPS officer in DABH(will be comparing CC with DABH too so just quoting). Now CC has no concept per se. The makers have not given out any strong concept during promos - Initial media articles by PH said it was a clash of modernity vs conservative ideologies represented by Supriya and Sanaya, now few articles are out saying it is journey of CC in the Borisagar Household. After 4 months don't you think they should have the concept well in the hold of the PH - and they should have the concept in the background and have other tracks go on. No I don't see that happening here. Every week we have some or other track where in UB is reduced to humorous/black/manipulative and the rest of the cast is clowns and CC is Ms.Goody two shoes. In Saas Bina Sasural, Toasty also became Ms.Goody two shoes for some tracks but believe me, those were the tracks that didn't work at all. But the way the same PH moved the journey of Toasty in the household was good. Toasty's parents were always in the story, the way they used to come over and talk when there was a problem and the way the show always moved with different day to day activities of the household was good. Here where did Sarabhai family come into picture after the marriage ? All I can see is only once the dad called up CC after marriage, CC called up dadi once and CC came in to see PuchPuch this week. That is not how it happens in real life - If my daughter got married in the same circumstances, I would be little more apprehensive of UB. I admire how for a small scene, the PH was able to get all the actors on board without using body doubles(like when CC comes in to see PuchPuch) but at the same time they are not utilizing the cast correctly. Wasn't it a waste to get all the cast for 5 minutes scene but not have a talk between the parents and CC, Couldn't they have shown a scene between the mom and CC talking about life in general in Borisagar's house, or between CC and Dadi. No they just had a hardly 5 mins scene. CC was not even concerned about the other dogs - Anarkali, Jahapanah no not even a dialogue of them. See that kind of loopholes are too many in this show. And with the way the things are going, I think slowly the other cast will fade in the background and may move out of the project.

With UB's characterization, I think half of charm of the story is getting lost because, UB is completely black. She doesn't want Manav to be with CC - why? For what? Because her ego got hurt by the girl. Sorry is not a convincing answer especially when she knows and has seen Manav to be in love with CC. Most moms make adjustments when their kids are in love and I think that is why UB's character is not connecting with the audience. The same point is played in DABH - Bhabho doesn't want her daughter-in-law to succeed but you have a clear cut reason for it. She is afraid her DIL may leave her halwai son after flying high. See that reason many mom's can identify with. When it is the question of your son's happiness, you would go ahead to protect it even by unfair means. Bhabho knows that Suraj can't survive if Sandhya were to leave him after becoming successful so she is purposefully trying to create hurdles in her path of becoming an IPS officer. She is okay by playing unfair and negative and regressive because according to her, she is looking out for the greater good of Suraj. That emotion/that feeling many moms can connect with especially in rural areas where Moms still feel that DIL may leave their sons, if especially the DIL are shortchanged in the marriage. That is why DABH is raking in TRPs. Here I have seen most comments that Sony is for Urban audience but pray tell me which Urban mom behaves the way UB is behaving? Most urban moms go out of way to be friends with DIL and try to bond with her because they know the sons will be with wives if they behave bad and especially when it is a love marriage. But here UB has old and archaic customs like putting pallu on head, giving punishment for not putting pallu, purposefully getting another girl in between her married son and DIL. No I don't think the urban audience is connecting with this show.

Coming to TRPs - I always feel a good story will connect the show to the audience and the audience will tune in to catch the program on the dot. Look at 9PM slot. It is heavily competitive. You have a new intense love story with Kashmir as backdrop on Life Ok and given that Life Ok is a small channel, the last TRPs of ChanChan and Do Dil were same (0.8), So that is a concern for ChanChan. Qubool Hai is another love story and that also is having intense scenes and bold scenes. So the young generation may be split between these shows. For people who want comedy and laughter Chidiya Ghar is an out and out comedy show and for audience who want a good story, DABH is reeling them in with good tracks and now the story is finally poised at the point where Sandhya is going to become IPS officer - a end to the journey that started over 2 yrs ago. Do you think we have anything going on in CC, that is spell binding and so arresting that people will give up these shows to tune in. No, CC doesn't have a concrete track that is going to hold the audience attention - The 0.8 TRPs is only due to die hard ardent fans of SI who are tuning in everyday. But for the general audience, it is quite okay if they miss CC's episodes, one day in a week or few days in a week because nothing is really coming out as a track. In Saas Bina Sasural, we used to have new montages for every track, the montage used to change when the track used to change,like show the brothers on one side, Toasty on other (to show Toasty finding opposition in the family)/ Toasty missing in the montage( to show Toasty missing in family). I am not able to put it in words but what I mean to say is that even if I did tune out for few tracks in Saas Bina Sasural, if I caught a promo with a new montage, I used to tune back in when the new track started. That is not happening in CC.

I know no actor signs in a project knowing that it will be a failure but after seeing Saas Bina Sasural and CC, I would say the makers have lost the plot. Most of the scenes or tracks in CC are going to be repeats of Saas Bina Sasural - Like the over strict Dadaji coming in was the same track wherein the overstrict naniji of Tej comes in and Toasty immediately gets into bad books of her when she does things unknowingly. So what I feel is that for people who are already aware of this PH's earlier show, this is just a lather, rinse, repeat and nothing much. For Sanaya's sake, I do hope this show leaves a mark but doesn't look like it. My honest opinion.

PS:- I have quoted the other serials in reference to what I feel is not working for CC. Please don't bash the other serials or other characters like Sandhya, Bhabho. We may not like the shows but there are people who are able to connect to the characters and that is why it is able to rake in TRPs.
Edited by psarada - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#73
@psarada

I didn't understand much about the point you were trying to make except that CC has not been able to make its mark .But you sure seem to watch a lot of shows and it was good to get an insight into how all those are much better than CC.

I just hope this post does not get closed due to bringing in so many other shows and comparisons with them.
Edited by capricorn2006 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: capricorn2006

@psarada


I didn't understand much about the point you were trying to make except that CC has not been able to make its mark .But you sure seem to watch a lot of shows and it was good to get an insight into how all those are much better than CC.

I just hope this post does not get closed due to bringing in so many other shows and comparisons with them.



Dang man - The point I am trying to make it is that there are so many other shows that have the connect better than CC. The show CC is not having a good story line backed with a good connect to the audience and the reason why it is failing in TRPs. I had to get in other shows to compare where I feel CC is lacking. It is lacking in story line even when compared with the same PH's earlier show. The characters and the tracks were handled much better in that show. I am not sure if the mods will close the post or I am asked to edit out my post but what I feel is that people on this forum are aware of only SI's shows. So for them they feel that what CC is showing is very good and very novel. I have seen different shows and have followed few for considerable amount of time so I can clearly see where CC is lacking and what all concepts that CC is doing or trying to do with winning other family members, has been done in the PH's previous show much better. That is the reason I don't participate in any of the daily discussions because I know for sure, I will bring in other points and that is not usually taken in good spirit. This post I tried not to be too comparing but hopefully I am able to put my point across as to why I think CC is not working or raking in TRPs and how CC is not utilizing the talent that Sanaya is. I was not bashing any show be it CC or the other shows so hopefully mods will not warn me I guess 😕 or did I lose the complete point here 😕

@TM:- Do Let me know if you want me to edit out my post as I don't want problems with Mods for your post.
Edited by psarada - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#75
Hmmm...I am kinda confused...I read the post that is now closed and this one.
The topic is Sanaya's talent.
What is the criteria for measuring "talent"?
Sanaya's previous character was an INTENSE love hate character which was appreciated by fans and actor peers. I would say job well done by Sanaya.
Sanaya's current character is a LIGHT today's girl married into a yesterday's family. I would say this job is also being done per requirements, some fans and peers also think so.
Awards are beheld by the award givers...they have their favorites and not necessarily the same as the fans.
So...to sum it up...isn't it "TALENT" when an actor can play an "INTENSE" character as well as a "LIGHT" character?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: AliyaS


This is my last comment and then I'm outa here.
Yes which Jodi they like more is everyone's personal opinion but unfortunately those that resort to digs and sarcasm about one actor are the same ones trying to prove that the new Jodi is the hottest ever.
Every comment is full if sarcasm and they ask others to move on. They had full hopes on Farhan to prove how Sanaya can rock with anyone and when that failed terribly they are hanging onto Anuj. Maybe once Sanaya moves on everyone else will too 😛



@bold: The first sensible comment you've made, congratulations! I hope you keep you word and stay outta our forum. Why are you even here when you clearly don't watch CC and are not a SI fan? Do you have that much time on your hands? Wouldn't you prefer to spend this time talking about people you actually like? Maybe that's just me because I have a life.

We don't need fangirls to come here and talk about how SI's off-screen segments seem forced now. You wish. That's just what you want to see, that's not reality buddy. The only thing statements like this prove is how DELUSIONAL you are, still making up lies, still hung up on the previous show and jodi. I frankly feel pity that you spend so much time obsessing over SI and her new show and jodi. Then again, what else can you talk about? She's the only one of the previous cast who is still working full time, I haven't seen or heard from the rest of them since the show ended. Hopefully the others start coming in some movies/tv shows soon so y'all can just go away and leave SI alone.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: AliyaS



🤣🤣 I find it rather hilarious that people who give big speeches on how some fans need to move on, themselves seem to be stuck on her previous show's characters and actors.
Even on the first page of this thread someone takes a dig at "a certain someone in hibernation" who you clearly are not a big fan of so why can't you guys move on and stop with the unnecessary sarcasm😲😲

Most importantly Sanaya herself has not moved on. She does not leave any opportunity of saying how much she misses IPK and her previous co-star, how she loved her IPK experience, so why are some of her "fans" hell bent on taking the IPK team she loves away from her to prove a non-existent chemistry and totally artificial off-screen segments where Sanz openly pushes him away unlike in the past where she would initiate contact.

Now before everyone sees my DP and jumps to conclusions let me tell you that I like Sanaya and watch CC every day while contributing to TRP's and the reason many fans are not active on this forum is because if you cannot blindly drool on the new jodi or want to give constructive criticism then one is not welcome here.



well i guess that is a typo.
a little fact for the first 3-4 months of IPK San claimed she missed MJHT too! 😳 Its on SBS & SBB videos..
She said she missed shooting with her co stars etc etc..

I myself feel the loss more with IPK when she says she misses it.. But i guess its basic human nature to miss what you are used to and what you already love and leaving it all behind to forge new bonds all over again..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#78
I don't fell the need to preach here that was written by accident and a fan jump on me saying I'm not moving on? Just because I wrote that doesn't mean I have not moved on I don't remember the last time I watched an episode of her previous show since it ended I been too busy with other new shows.

Everybody makes mistake and I just made one as well laugh mock me but it doesn't effect me in all this.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#79
I think people are taking these things wayy to seriously! It's a TV show for gods sake and these are professional actors who are doing the best they can presumably with the best options they have. Even if a certain show does not work or garner the same amount of publicity and accolades, its not the end of the world! This is everyday work for them, and if this does not work for them they will eventually find something else that works for them.

Besides, if you start analyzing TV shows, the content, acting prowess you will find flaws with almost all the shows currently on air. CC does hv its fair share of problems as has been discussed repeatedly every week but if you start comparing with other shows, so does each one of them! So it ultimately comes down to individual preference and what each individual chooses to watch. I don't get deal with the sky high expectations for this show and its even more silly that its compared to either long established shows or popular ones (each with an established fan base) which if I may point out had its fair share of critiques even in their hay days! So you see, preference is strictly subjective so these double standards are truly baffling!


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Posted: 12 years ago
#80
@sunara @aaliyah

which bedroom scene was it..?
so far, i have not seen anything 'offensive'.
or perhaps, i am the only ignorant one here.. 😳




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