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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: HameshaAKela

Well, I am writing this with the risk of phangirls of Esss Eyeee killing me but whatever, it's a free forum, and I finally made an account so might as well take my opportunity to be oh so honest. Aside from all the off-screen mouphatness, I attempted to watch this show because I was impressed with Sanaya's acting from her previous show, and the concept as what started off to be an adaptation of Khoobsurat was something I was looking forward to. Unfortunately, the show is a complete let down, and lord knows what the hell they are showing in the name of "very real" maaadern entertainment. Chanchan has good actors now why isn't the real story starting? Koi mahurat nikal ke rakha hai kya?

Right now, a solid is what the show is lacking. There is no substance in the show, in the characters, in anything. It's a show, that's just, there and thats about it. Let's think about the characters, what defines Chanchan? Using technology or having dogs, doesn't define you. Chanchan comes out as just another bahu, like the 500,000 bahus out there. How did she end up marrying Manav? Cause he saved her friggin dog? But oh wait plot twist, dogs can swim.

The conflict between Uma Ben and Chanchan is one of the biggest let downs of the point. Here Uma Ben is just completely evil, while Chanchan is the bechari bahu, who listens to everything Uma Ben says. There is no real showdown, but infact, just another evil saas, plotting to ruin paradise between her bahu and beta, while bechaari bahu tries to please her saas. I mean yawwwn, you guys have actors like Supriya freaking Pathak. Might I add though, she is doing such a great job as Uma Ben despite the character being something so "been there done that".

The so called "maaadern-ness"on the show is another joke. Roti makers, using tutorials for sarees, a and what not, there is nothing modern about it. I am pretty sure there are people who might wear sarees everyday or possible cook rotis, are modern. Being "modern" lies in your thinking, where someone things progressively. I remember initially, the dowry issue was raised, which was something that I would say was modern to a certain extent. After that, it's just been ridiculous.

Coming to the so called oh so sizzling hawt chamissstry between the leads, errr why are they even showing this and why is this so hyped up by phangirls?? I mean, of course, Manav and Chanchan are newly married and yada yada but it's so sugary sweet I might gag.. They do look good together, but they aren't anything outstanding. I would say it's mediocre, because they are both good looking, and are decent actors, but jeezus, the hype Esss Eye phankis give them is ridiculous. Sanaya and Anuj's acting isn't that great either cause they honestly don't do much. She only has 3 alternating expressions in this show, "Oh I'm so bubbly" "Oh I'm hyperventilating" and "Oh I'm so bechari" and Anuj, LOL what does he even do? Might as well call him the item boy of the show who's there for belly licking, and then disappears. Mana toh padega, eye candy hai boss!!

Overall, if the show, gets an actual story line, and doesn't result to cheesy yawn worthy romantic scenes which seem the same again and again and again, the show might grab some attention instead of the off-screen ping pong happening between leading lady's recent ex co-star. DKM phangals, I am vella kela who is ainvayi trying to show my opinions considering honesty is appreciated so much. Peace out.



I agree with most parts of your debate. The whole character of Umaben is such a let down. I hoped to see a multi layered character not the uni-dimensional evil mother in law that she is currently.

I hoped the main conflict in CC is one between a strong matriach wo rules with an iron fist against a confident young woman who ruffles up her feathers by going against her rules.

I had hoped the conflict would be on the themes of traditional vs contemporary values as against good vs evil that we are currently getting to watch. we have many MIL vs DIL stories based on the later, which leaves CC sort of struggling to find a USP.

Supriya ji is a seasoned artist, anyone who has followed her career knows how well she can emote with the mere movement of her eyes. Sanaya is a very good actress too. So my advice to the makers is to use the acting potential of these two actress by giving them well etched out characters not the inconsistent wishy washy ones they are enacting now.


Having said that, Im still willing to give the show a chance, some aspects of the show have already improved. I hope that my patience and those of many others will soon be rewarded.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Newbiesoapfan


Sarada -- so what if fans are biased... fans are fans ... again they may like the show for what it is ... I do think it is wrong to call them biased.



Ash, agree with you that fans are fans but the point is anytime someone posts a post which doesn't say good things about the show in general, immediately the post is attacked and the person is mocked at. I mean the forum is for discussions right. That shouldn't be the spirit of the forum and the discussions. Again we all are blind to faults in the show of our favorites - that much I agree on. But if someone puts forth a discussion, can't we discuss in a mature manner. Why should people who post an opinion different in this forum be mocked at.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Newbiesoapfan


Sarada -- so what if fans are biased... fans are fans ... again they may like the show for what it is ... I do think it is wrong to call them biased.


Thank you @Newbiesoapfan, for saying this. It is OK to have difference of opinion about content of show and acting, but just because one watches a show or appreciates a particular actress' s work, does not make them blind, or over zealous, because then we are indulging in the same stereotypes that some here are claiming to be against.
Point is line is being crossed on both sides...that seems to be nature of most forums here.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: psarada



Ash, agree with you that fans are fans but the point is anytime someone posts a post which doesn't say good things about the show in general, immediately the post is attacked and the person is mocked at. I mean the forum is for discussions right. That shouldn't be the spirit of the forum and the discussions. Again we all are blind to faults in the show of our favorites - that much I agree on. But if someone puts forth a discussion, can't we discuss in a mature manner. Why should people who post an opinion different in this forum be mocked at.


Sarada -- I did see that most of the discussion was civil... sadly people do get carried away with sentiments... again like I said before criticism of the show and its aspects after continued viewing ( this is important !) is OK... some people will like it and some will not... and conveying the same to the PH is good too...so any steps in that direction will be good... also as NB said they are listening and things have changed a bit... so its a wait and watch for all fans of the show ...

Reactions are based on people and their perceptions... anyone giving proper criticism is I think entertained here.

FYI , most of the points that have been raised by Kela and you have been discussed here in this forum ... ... none of it is new... so its not as if this forum does not encourage debate or discussion on the show...



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Posted: 12 years ago
Nice post.

Agree to most of the points.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: SreeASRfan



excuse me? do you even realize what you are talking about?? i was the one who posted the comment in bold...and clearly i was talking about myself...i do not feel the need to hail unaesthetic romantic scenes (strictly IMO) and i don't get why you should be having a problem! if i choose to never "move on" from a brilliant aesthetic romance that "ended long back" then that's my prerogative!
and girl i didn't ask you to stop going ga ga ma pa dha ni sa on SaNuj or anything else puhhleezzz...like what you want to, drool on whatever you want!
every show has its set of negatives...agreed! that cannot stop me or anyone else from expressing my opinion and complaints about this show in its official forum. i again dont see why you should be having a problem with that. calling people who criticize this show as "ranjana" should be the lamest joke of the day!
neither do i view CC with set expectations from her previous show...i am sensible enough to understand that would be futile. all of her previous shows have been of different genres. and yes, even i like to watch SI perform...if talking about the loopholes in the show makes me any less of an SI fan than what you are, then also SO BE IT!😛

I was also talking about myself. Being a fan of the previous aesthetic romance myself, I do not see a need to go gaga over it and stay there, now that I have a new one to go gaga over. Saying That does not make me lesser fan of the previous aesthetic romance than you are.

I do not have problems with finding loopholes in the show in this forum. Thats one of the reasons we are here. I myself agree that CC has flaws And lots of scope for improving. I was not referring to every criticizer of this show as Ranjana, but some definitely are.
Look at part of the TMs post here...

Coming to the so called oh so sizzling hawt chamissstry between the leads, errr why are they even showing this and why is this so hyped up by phangirls?? I mean, of course, Manav and Chanchan are newly married and yada yada but it's so sugary sweet I might gag.. They do look good together, but they aren't anything outstanding. I would say it's mediocre, because they are both good looking, and are decent actors, but jeezus, the hype Esss Eye phankis give them is ridiculous. Sanaya and Anuj's acting isn't that great either cause they honestly don't do much. She only has 3 alternating expressions in this show, "Oh I'm so bubbly" "Oh I'm hyperventilating" and "Oh I'm so bechari" and Anuj, LOL what does he even do? Might as well call him the item boy of the show who's there for belly licking, and then disappears. Mana toh padega, eye candy hai boss!!

Use of words like belly licking and item boy is not constructive criticism. Referring to SI as Ess Eye and categorizing her as having 3 expressions only is not constructive in my opinion. These are the same expressions that she did even In Her previous show.
CC phangirls are over hyping their Jodi...really. Phangirls are there in every forum. And isnt that what all phangirls do...overhype their actors & jodis. As I said I am a fan of both shows, but do not want to prove superiority of one over the other by using derogatory words like the ones above.
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Posted: 12 years ago
People are welcome to criticize in a civil manner! I do not have problems with finding loopholes in the show in this forum. Thats one of the reasons we are here. I myself agree that CC has,it's of scope for improving.

I am seeing lot of criticizers wondering why CC fans are not accepting constructive criticism.

Your answer lies in the TMs use of words in the first post here.

Use of words like belly licking and item boy is not constructive criticism. Referring to SI as Ess Eye and categorizing her as having 3 expressions only is not constructive in my opinion. These are the same expressions that she did even In Her previous show. CC phangirls are over hyping their Jodi...really. Phangirls are there in every forum. And isnt that what all phangirls do...overhype their actors & jodis. I am a fan of both her shows, but do not want to prove superiority of one over the other by using derogatory words like the ones above.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: -Swetz-

I thought Soaptea is never coming back to TV what's the big fuss about she's just an actor working to earn a living they need to grow up!

So soaptea is out of the tv and Ess Eyee jumped in this cringe-worthy show to earn money 😕
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Jyo.Arshi.IPK

It sure takes a lot of guts to come down to a forum where 95% of the people love the show and give an honest analysis whether it appeals to their liking or not and I appreciate you for that.


I agree with your analysis.

The show promised a lot when it started and being a Sanaya Irani fan, I was super excited because she is one of the best on TV today.

so coming from that excitement, the show has been a super let down.

There is no story at all, there is nothing new, these concepts and tracks have been tried and tested so many times already.

what the makers promised to be innovative and what they are delivering doesnt match at all.

Like you said, being a dog trainer by profession or having a family where each one of them has a unique career interest, well thats common in most families today, yet coming from such a family ChhanChhan is made to look submissive and regressive.

A simple example is the fact that the ladies in her Sasural cant eat while thje gents eat and ChhanChhan has no issues with that, I can understand respect traditions but I would never tolerate someone undermining my own self respect in the name of traditions and cultures.

as of now, the story is very much predictable, and I watch it just so that I can see Sanaya, thats all that holds me to the show, remaining elements and storylines, its something thats easily predictable.

as for the chemistry between the leads, Sanaya is supremely talented, I havent seen Anuj in his previous shows but seeing him here, he is doing what is required of Manav, and as of now Manav doesnt have nothing much to do other than being a standby husband who despite being educated like ChhanChhan is unbelievably oblivious to his mother's nature and actions.

Manav is right now a Mama's boy who loves his wife dearly. I undersyand the need to show romance between newly weds but along with romance which is part and parcel of all Indian shows, the CVs need to being in a solid track, situations like HM being planned, then getting cancelled and then Umaben upto her evil schemes, these are not what you call tracks, its just situations that lead to nowhere.

Make an impact, give out a strong message, this is what the makers had promised when they were promoting this show, thats its the story about a girl who is modern and deeply rooted in her culture and that she will bring a change in her sasural.

till now whatever changes CC has made, like getting rid of Sarees and wearing Salwars etc etc , its only been for herself and not for all ladies, whatever happened to all family members being equal ?? I dont understand what the CVs are trying to convey, that Umaben's games do win partially, coz CC seems to be getting her way but the remaining ladies are still under the wings of their Saas.

so in a nutshell, the script is seriously not upto the mark.

I can see the fury of the fans of CC on this post, I hope they understand that the post isnt against the actors but against the content of the show which is being grossly over rated by its fans simply coz they love the actors.

try imagining the same show maybe with different leads other than your favourites and ask yourself if you would still appreciate the show, I guess then you will be able to get a clear and unbiased answer.

CC has a major competitor in the form of Diya Aur Baati Hum in terms of viewership. I personally hate the show DABH but unfortunately a vast majority of the TV audience love that show and its against that one that CC has to stay afloat and to do that , CC will need much more than normal romantic cliches and already seen and done saas-bahu situations.

I love Sanaya Irani to an extent that cant be explained and I watch this show only for her and will continue watching no matter where the story goes but that doesnt make me justify the poor quality of the show, infact it hurts to see her getting wasted in such a poorly written script that offers no surprises to the viewers.



I agree with majority of the things you said but Can i just politely request you not to bring other shows here ...

Even though DABH doesn't have good /overrated actors but still that show covers majority of the problems we in india face everyday as society- be it dowry , education, sex discrimination or a simple thing like an emergency ambulance stuck in the traffic and no-one is bothering etc . Now if you compare that to the only dowry issue raised in cc /roti makers/saari tutorials than i would prefer the other show (even though it's a pain to watch the main leads in that show).

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: SanayaIsBest

People are welcome to criticize in a civil manner! Ido not have problems with finding loopholes in the show in this forum. Thats one of the reasons we are here. I myself agree that CC has,it's of scope for improving.


I am seeing lot of criticizers wondering why CC fans are not accepting constructive criticism.

Your answer lies in the TMs use of words in the first post here.

Use of words like belly licking and item boy is not constructive criticism. Referring to SI as Ess Eye and categorizing her as having 3 expressions only is not constructive in my opinion. These are the same expressions that she did even In Her previous show.CC phangirls are over hyping their Jodi...really. Phangirls are there in every forum. And isnt that what all phangirls do...overhype their actors & jodis. I am a fan of both her shows, but do not want to prove superiority of one over the other by using derogatory words like the ones above.




@ bold : I'd like to add one more word here soaptea... Addressing Barun sobti as soaptea isn't constructive criticism too...

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