History discussions thread for Invitees only - Page 16

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

Only 5 reasons...I have many more..

I too dont have any sympathies. What ever the reason be , hurting/cheating someone intentionally and not repenting is not acceptable for me.

Ela ,

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Ela ,

Itna Karo waise ab Thodasa interesting ho Gaya hain.Ronit and Pallavi share amazing chemistry .Heard that Ronit script ok ho Toh hi scene shoot karta hain.

Most important is Ashwini has fallen flat performance wise .How much she tries she is not yet convincing .

Ronit steals the show whenever he is onscreen.

OMG..u r still watching this show.
Yes even earlier Ashwini was not very convincing. .especially her funny costumes. .She was much better as MA. ..i don't know why but I feel that standard of dressing has fallen in all of EK'S serial. .
Has Neil come to know that his wife is not married to the doctor?

Guys have you noticed that most of the posts on first two pages of Forum are ff, ss or os.

Abhay I must say you have been very unbiased in sharing all the historical facts to best of what is written and am very impressed.

So far what I as foreigner read in the memories of Salim he hard his weakness which was drugs, addiction to alcohol and women. But he respected his mother and father and he treated his brothers children, and the harem very well after his father.

There were some comments that people are misinterpreting to their own agenda.

1. Salim ordered his Son Khurram to bring his " Hazrat Maryam Zamani and the other ladies to him and said I embarked in a boat and went to a village name Dahr to meet my mother" and had the good fortune to be received by her. This is very important if one thinks of his mother as a fortune to him it is love, respect and adoration in one, altogether.

One thing that I laughed loud about is that when Salim was praising his forster mother who served the Mughal so faithfully that he was under her care so had so much affection for her more than his own mother people have taking this statement as though Salim didn't love his own mother. Wow what a shallow thinking. All he meant was he loved her a little more than he loved his own mother because she was with him and his caregiver and so he considered her as mother and her children as his brother. This can be seen clearly when he said " that his forster mother was kinder than my own kind mother". Salim is saying his mother was a kind woman and his forster mother was also/more kinder.

He as mentioned about him mother more in his memories he said his son Parwiz marriage to daughter of Prince Murad was done in Her Highness Maryam-Zamani

Salim didn't even stay in Arga most of the time he was always on the move Kabul or Lahore.

The only time he mentioned Rugayya Sultan Began daughter of Mirza Hindal he said she had not performed a pilgrimage to her father's tomb, on that day had the honour to do so when the harem was brought to him and MUZ was also there. All the other information have been shared by Abhay, Ela and co already.

I wonder where this cv team are getting their strange info. It is a shame.

If anything Salima is mentioned to love Salim very much instead of showing this they are showing Salim accusing her of drugging him😕

I am glad I took time to read everything myself. Abhay if there are any other books refer I will take time to read them.

Originally posted by: Nanayaa623

I am glad I took time to read everything myself. Abhay if there are any other books refer I will take time to read them.

Hi Nanayaa,

Glad to know you are reading personally.
Please read Akbar-The Great Mogul BY Vincent Smith. { with a pinch of salt. :-P :) }

Originally posted by: history_geek

Hi Nanayaa,

Glad to know you are reading personally.
Please read Akbar-The Great Mogul BY Vincent Smith. { with a pinch of salt. :-P :) }

Thanks Abhay, I have been reading though keep quite about it for a while honestly I don't know how to post picture yet on the forum if not I would have taken a picture of a state said made by Akbar in the Akbarnana that " He regarded the marriage of cousins as a survival from Adam's time when such connections were necessary". This tells me how intelligent he was and if he hard been old enough to make his own choice on marriage I doubt he would have married close relation.

Then I asked myself so my did he marry Salim and Maa Bai then ? Another survival for the Kingdom?

Originally posted by: Nanayaa623

Thanks Abhay, I have been reading though keep quite about it for a while honestly I don't know how to post picture yet on the forum if not I would have taken a picture of a state said made by Akbar in the Akbarnana that " He regarded the marriage of cousins as a survival from Adam's time when such connections were necessary". This tells me how intelligent he was and if he hard been old enough to make his own choice on marriage I doubt he would have married close relation.

Then I asked myself so my did he marry Salim and Maa Bai then ? Another survival for the Kingdom?

^^^^^^

Hi Nanayaa,

No need to prove by picture.. Akbar's new order Din E Illahi had a postulate according to which marriage between close cousins was NOT ALLOWED. :-P

Though, in their religion close cousin marriages were allowed but Akbar banned it...
And Badayuni gives the reason as lack of sexual vigour...


This may be Akbar's experience / thinking ? Perhaps.!

Other wise, why would he go against such established customs ?
Also, let me clear it Akbar was NOT aware of the harmful effects of close cousin marriages.!


About Salim and Man Bai, there is difference between paternal and maternal cousins..

BTW, Tabaqat Akbari says Man Bai was the best possible girl to marry salim.
So she was selected for the match.!