Chandra Nandini 76-85: Parts 1 & 2 - Page 8

Originally posted by: sashashyam

What is it with this hormonal obsession of yours, Anne. Ugh...😡

Not obsessed aunty. I had mild ( as i would like to say) version of post-partum depression after my 2nd and 3rd kids. So I immediately thought of that when i saw this CHandra who cannot decide to be this 'nice' or 'bad' Chandra as far as Nandini is concerned. You insides can get so messed, at times you feel like you have out of body experience watching you doing/saying things all the while wondering 'is this me?'

Originally posted by: liberty2

Hi, Aunty

Will address u as so, as your wish is my command😉, personally I prefer using first name, a cultural thing. Anyway, I like your well balanced analysis.👏. and your analogy suits right in.

Shanan...ahhh, what can I say, Chandra is a stickler of hygiene,😉 and fully support it, for the obvious reason😆😉. I personally prefer the rooftop shanankash😆

Diva scene- more than the presentation,It was pleasing, to see two of them warming up. Not only both were visually appealing,but were quite expressive.

Like I said earlier, I admire the insanely genius Chankya, but in the show the character is off-Puting

So there is a mrs. Chankya and a beti Chankya. Seems like soon will be part of the circus act at maghadh palace.🤢

Roopa, haven't watched much of her, but a temperamental, with a raucous attitude. A total contrast to her twin.i don't think two witches can curb her. I kinda like her rustic lingo. Btw. Does Sunanda have any motive for the foul act.?

This is something I have not managed to make out as yet, except some vague idea that she wants revenge on Padmanand thru Roopa, perhaps by switching her with Nandini. But this does not jell well at all.

The Sunanda-Roopa combo have been making some extortion money on the side till now, but on this job, for which Aapama must have paid Sunanda regardless of Roopa saying that she will do it for nothing, things are not simple. For now Roopa wants Chandra so that she can become his chief queen, while Aapama also wants him for Helena, so the two are plainly at odds.

Sunanda seems by now to have lost control of the show and is hanging desperately on to Roopa's chunari to stay afloat. As I noted in a mini post on page 7 above, Roopa is now like the bull in a Spanish corrida, and there is no saying how many will get gored before she is corralled, hopefully, as you want too, by Chandra.

MMP . Ay..Caramba...so dadi is being chewed out..😆, u have a pretty rational write up. My only concern is for maghadvasi. A cookie or a cocky maharani, it's a lose lose situation .At least sane napit putri is a sensible choice.

With so liberal use of Urdu words, and even English words, I wouldn't be surprised if some day.

Chandra.. Babe, muje tumse beinteha love hai.😆

Nandini... honey, love u hamesha.😆😆

(Shouldn't there be proof reading, or even the actors don't notice it) pretty dumb. Even in one of the scene Chaya was wearing heels. I mean seriously...how careless is that ...

Jokes apart, it never fails to set my teeth on edge, the unthinking, heedless use of Urdu words. With Helena and Aapama, one can attribute it to the Persian overlay, but the rest? Why the devil can Rajat and the others not correct those bits themselves while delivering the lines? It is unpardonable. And at one point Helena said her mood was so good that day!😡

And now coming to our dorky Chandra.... This guy makes viewers go on teeter- totter. One scene he would be making Nandini a perfect woman ( viewers go up) next scene he would lash out for charitrahin nari( viewers go down😭) . And the pattern continues.

I'm positive he will pull this one ( Roopa Kand). If writers r even half as smart as I'm, 😆. They need to, for the damage control. But...we got to be wise enough, not to bet life savings on Ekta's show😆 Fingers crossed!

U take it easy.

Thanks a lot for your concern. I do try, but both the timing and the severity of the flareups of my RA are totally unpredictable. This week has been good thus far, so I am making the most of it, and as for next week, that is on the lap of the gods!

Originally posted by: AJSharma79

Not obsessed aunty. I had mild ( as i would like to say) version of post-partum depression after my 2nd and 3rd kids. So I immediately thought of that when i saw this CHandra who cannot decide to be this 'nice' or 'bad' Chandra as far as Nandini is concerned. You insides can get so messed, at times you feel like you have out of body experience watching you doing/saying things all the while wondering 'is this me?'

Originally posted by: -Felicity-

A fiction by you, Aunty, would be so interesting! 😉

Originally posted by: sashashyam

It would be so old fashioned, my little Shagun, both in content and language, that no one today would read it, not even you!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sashashyam

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Originally posted by: jayaks02

But then it may become a classic Akka , like P&P. 😃 😳

Originally posted by: sashashyam

A MINI-CELEBRATION FOR MY SUCCESS IN PLOT PREDICTION

Folks,

Seeing how closely the script for tonight followed what I had predicted in my response to Sarika on prepage, viz

Now we are going to have a comical double apaharan, with Helena's goons kidnapping Roopa, whom they will take to be Nandini, while the real Nandini will be somehow discovered by Chandra in that kali gufa. He will of course assume that she had been kidnapped by Padmanand's men, and will get her back to the palace, where she will duly take part in the pooja and then leave for the village with Chandra.

What remains to be seen is what Helena makes of the reappearance of Nandini even while she is, as Helena will assume, still her prisoner. Will the Roopa angle be then revealed to her? I doubt it. She will probably go to the hiding place to check on her prisoner, only to find that Nandini, that is to say Roopa, has escaped. And so the merry go round will continue for while longer.

I for one am only waiting for the village scenes and the cow kaands!😆

I am over the moon with pleasure! 😉I have rarely been able to second guess the CVs to such an extent.The only thing I got wrong is that I thought the identity of Roopa would not be revealed to Helena right now.

Also, I had presumed that Roopa would be kept corked up in the secret room in the palace while Nandini was away in the palace. But seeing the way in which she is running amok, that was hardly something the Aapama-Sunanda duo could have pulled off. 😉

Roopa is now like the bull at a Spanish corrida, and all that remains to be seen is how many get gored before she is corralled.

In this post, I had written about her :

Or would she switch plans, try to eliminate Nandini altogether and replace her in Chandra's life, however tough such a transformation might seem for Roopa to pull off? We have to wait and watch.

This has clearly come to pass now. I am sure she is going to keep up her efforts to this end in the village as well.

But I have no idea how Roopa proposes to pass off as Nandini for the long term without even this less than astute Chandra spotting the switch. 😉Especially when she starts tossing around or shredding Nandini's precious pustakein!

What I liked the best today was the tone of Chandra's voice when he finds the unconscious Nandini in the cave. It is almost suspended with shock and fear, not hoarse, but very odd sounding and desperate. Excellent voice control by Rajat. 👏

Amina, the royal couple are supposed to live exactly like the poor villagers, so no takiya. Anyhow, she gets an even better substitute, does she not?😉

Shyamala/Aunty/Periyamma/Akka

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Part 1: On a switchback road

Folks,

Do you remember the last time you drove on a switchback road in the mountains? On a road that turns right and then fifty yards later, turns left . The next bend comes even quicker, in barely 20 yards. Then there is a 100 yard stretch, and when you just start breathing easy and relax, boom! The next sharp bend is so sudden that you almost go off the road and down the mountainside.

I've never driven but traveled aplenty on such roads, so have actually enjoyed them...the swishes and turns.🤓 You are right. Driving must be an ordeal.🤔

I did this sort of thing often over 40 years ago, on my first diplomatic posting to Geneva. One of the worst was when I was on my way to Como, in northern Italy. After negotiating the Swiss mountain road, which was two lane and crowded with aggressive trucks, I had to do the very same kind of driving, tackling sharp bends every 20 yards or less on a two lane road, all along the shore of Lake Como. I was a good driver, but when I finally got out in front of a hotel to get a room, my eyes were still focussed on looking 20 yards ahead. So I walked straight into the plate glass entrance door that had been cleaned spotlessly.

😲

Switchback scripting: This is exactly what I feel like of late about Chandra Nandini. The stunned feeling, that is, not the blood. Not yet, that is.

Not yet! 😲

Let us just check out this switchback script very briefly.

What a brilliant comparison Aunty! The best we could think of was oscillations and seesaws and yo-yoing. The switchback roads analogy was perfect, considering the bump and shock the script gives us in each of its 180 degree turns!

Of two snankakshes: Lest we should get spoilt, a sharp left turn came up, with Roopa inviting Malayketu to the snankaksh. Which led in turn to two bathing scenes with totally contrasting moods, as a touchingly hopeful Chandra, abruptly disillusioned, lashed himself into a fury of bitter disappointment, and sought to humiliate Nandini the only way he seems to know, by canoodling with Helena in front of her.

canoodling...🤔...okay checked it up!

Next came Roopa's serendipitous switch of the gift thalis, for which she got quite unwarranted kudos from none less than Aapama, while I forbore from asking the one pertinent question: How on earth did Roopa know about the existence of those two switchable (sic) gifts anyway?

Exactly. And what if Nandini or anyone else was just to lift the cloth and check up before bringing it on to gift??

The gift fiasco: So we have the next crisis, with Nandini being confronted by a weepy Mura, who has taken the trouble to tog herself out in that red joda, instead of doing what any sensible female would do, ie carry it with her.😕

😆May be she was actually tempted to try it out and then as waves of guilt swept over her, her anger on Nandini ascended for leading to temptation. 😆

Unbelievably distasteful: Time for the next savage bend to the left. To wit, the decidedly unaesthetic drunken dance by Roopa. Any man, not to speak of a samrat, with an ounce of brains would have dragged Nandini off stage at the first signs of her inebriation, but apna Chandra sits there as if he was at a performance and waiting for the curtain to come down. Even when he finally gets up, he moves so glacially that I was tempted to kick his backside to make him get a move on!😡

This was the sharpest hairpin bend that could make even the seasoned driver feel queasy.😡 There was ruckus over gifting of red joda. And NOTHING at the risque dancing that too by forcibly dragging Malay, the family son-in-law, on the floor. EVERYTING was forgotten by everyone after an unrelated 'Kaun ho tum?' questioning and 'hriday swamini' answer.😲

I am waiting with bated breath to see if this special feature in Nandini's horoscope is actually announced soon. 😉😉

There is a hitch here. If her kundali were known, it will also be known that she is one of the twin-born. We will have to be content that Mura is an enhanced version of HB, and Daadi a Nandini-bhakt. She walks Nandini, talks Nandini, breathes Nandini and loves and lives Nandini. Chaaya, Chandra and everyone else are her distant relatives.😡

The Chandra-Malay duel was not a patch on similar scenes between the two actors that we have seen before, perhaps because Rajat is still not quite fit.

😭 Too much of weight-lifting perhaps!

The ugly, deliberately provoking Chandra-Roopa encounter, clearly intended to drive him off the Nandputri for good, was followed by a precap that was 180 degrees away from it in mood. My poor head felt, at this point, as if I had walked into that hotel door once more.

Thai Sowing Festival: As for the concept of the king ploughing the field and the queen planting the seeds, I, and the bulk of the Bangkok diplomatic corps, have seen this done every year at the Spring Sowing Festival in Bangkok. After the king had finished going three times round the field behind a pair of bullocks, he used to stop. Seven bowls containing different foodgrains - rice, wheat, rye, barley etc. - were then placed before the bullocks. Depending on which grain or grains they chose to eat, the nature of the harvest for that year would be predicted by the royal priests.

This just goes to underline the traditional cultural links between India and Thailand, of which this is only a small example.

Thanks for the information aunty. Never heard of it before. The first time I heard about something similar was in Siya ke Ram where Janak does it. (Wasn't he a gem of a choice...he retained his aura throughout...atleast till Ram, Sita and Lakshman left Ayodhya...I saw only sparse episodes after that as Sita went into a Pravachaning spree ever since! Our Nandini...God bless her...is still inept in that serial-siddha-adhikaar of heroines)

I wonder about only one thing: Roopa would have to be kept corked up in that secret room while Nandini is out of the palace. She is perennially like a tea kettle on the boil, so I am sure that her minders are going to have a tough time keeping her in line! In fact, that is one of my consistent delights these days - watching the helpless duo of Sunanda and Aapama try to cope with Roopa's uncontrollable and destructive rages, especially when they are to the detriment of Aapama's Macedonian objets d'art!😆

😆 Tea kettle on the boil indeed!

Chanakya: Unexpected revelations:

Now one cannot hold it against the poor man that he made the colossal mistake of marrying this shrewish female in his salad years.

Another new term. As was 'condign'. Read the explanation in your other post to the first and looked up to the dictionary for the second. 🤓

It can happen to the wisest of men, and often does! One presumes that like Mr.Bennet in Pride and Prejudice, he was taken in by her good looks when she was young, and by the appearance of good humour which youth and good looks often produce, and by the time he realised her true nature it was too late. 😆

🤣

The two females will be a welcome addition to the Pataliputra paagalkhaana, 😉 and I expect that the daughter will in due course fall for Chandra, being the 5^th to do so after his three wives and Roopa. The more the merrier, and it will be interesting to see what Roopa makes of her and vice versa.

Did ChandraGupt marry Chanakya's daughter as well!😲

Impeccable probity:As for Chanakya's little illustration of strict probity, it reminded me of US President Harry Truman. He always kept a separate folder of 3 cent stamps, which he had paid for, in his office. His secretary used these stamps for President Truman's private letters.

I was reminded of an article I recently read about Dr.Abdul Kalam's integrity, when I saw the scene. 😊

Nandini: Caught in a trap:

This apart, she clutches at every straw of fleeting happiness that her interactions with Chandra throw up, and revels in them while they last, with the transparent joy of a kid clutching at balloons . But like the balloons, these joys float away from the poor girl all too soon. 😭

😕😭

When she stood around scattering flowers into that bath for the two of them and weeping, I was livid. In her place, I would have refused flat, or dumped the plate six inches from Chandra's head and left!😡

I hope you would have aimed well. Err...6 inches is not a big distance. 😆But Chandra would have deserved the trajectory as well, for his method of anger display and sometimes for his vacant top floor.😡

Nandini is gentle and affectionate to all around her - Daadi, Mura, Kanika, Durdhara, and till the Roopa angle emerges, Chhaya as well. She is warm hearted and sensitive, as can be seen from the two perfect gifts for Mura that she chooses- Chandra's and her own.

Shweta plays this Nandini to perfection, whether in her transient joys or in her sorrows.

Agree.😊

Roopa: An angry, wild spirit: This might surprise many, but I really feel very sorry for Roopa.

Just look at it this way. She, born a princess, was almost murdered by her own father because of a prediction that she would lead to his destruction. She is saved by an unscrupulous woman for her own ends, raised among, as she says herself, daaku lootere, in a way that can readily be imagined. She was deprived of every advantage, every luxury, that was her due, all of which was then lavished on her twin. She is used by her mentor, Sunanda, for her own nefarious activities, which clearly included extortion. In short, instead of being a pampered princess of Magadha, she has been forced to become a lowlife gangster.

One can imagine the blind hatred that would have been festering inside Roopa all these years, sedulously fostered by Sunanda, focussed on the twin whom she sees as having usurped all that was her due. Nandini. It is no use arguing that nothing of what happened to Roopa was Nandini's fault. That is not how such things work.

Roopa also hates the father who was ready to kill her, or have her killed, to save his own skin, and she asserts that she wants him to die at her hands. But somewhere deep inside her, there might well be a different feeling, the need to be accepted and loved by the very father she now professes to hate.

The sticky point will come when she really falls for Chandra. For to cut Nandini off from Chandra without exposing herself would mean cutting herself, Roopa, off from him as well. Will she accept this ? Or would she switch plans, try to eliminate Nandini altogether and replace her in Chandra's life, however tough such a transformation might seem for Roopa to pull off? We have to wait and watch.

👏👏 👏👏 This is perfect.👏👏 👏👏

Chandragupta :Crippling obsession: I am using the full name partly to remind myself of who he is😉. Otherwise, after watching him for these 10 episodes - going about unannounced within the palace, not shown presiding over the court at all, hanging around his wives or the snankaksh or his daadi, obsessing over the wife he professes to hate - one could be excused for forgetting that he is the samrat of Magadha. The fact is that for all his periodic assertions that he is a samrat, Chandra, as of now, neither looks nor behaves like a king.

😭 He lacks the aura and confidence that he had even as a charwahe ka putra. He is hardly a patch of the self -assured Chandra of Nandini'd Swayamwar or the nonchalant cool warrior. 😕

Right now, he resembles nothing so much as a raft on storm-tossed seas, pulled this way and that by the waves. The love for Nandini that has taken determined possession of him, despite every effort of his to deny it and dislodge it, is a source of endless frustration and misery.

Another apt analogy.👏

Yet, no matter how great the humiliation he has to suffer on her account - and this cannot get worse than after Roopa's drunken display in front of the whole court - he cannot bring himself to punish Nandini as he would have done with any other woman. He threatens her repeatedly with condign punishment, even death, were she to try to entice Malayketu any longer, but when push comes to shove, all he does is to exile her, and that too with the greatest reluctance.

This is quite inconsistent with how he was portrayed as a boy. Even as a little boy, he saw prem, as a debilitating factor and was a master of his emotions wrt his mother too. After being depicted as a boy of steel, his transformation into a king of jelly looks mismatched. If the writers wanted the king to be soft and malleable, why portray him as a tough-er at the start at all! Likewise Nandini too is sweet and gentle and charming, then why did we have an ugly display of so called warriorship and froggie jumps in the earlier phases!

Babies usually begin to walk at about 10 months. Given this, I would only add that Chandra must have been dropped on his head, probably by his foster father, at about 3 months. The effects of that impact still linger, and have most likely seriously affected his cerebral processes. 😉😉

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Nor does he seem to have made any arrangements for Nandini being settled safely somewhere else, and not left to wander around the countryside as she had done the last time. Now that she has all these loaded sandooks, that would in any case be a non -starter!😆

🤣 May be her potli was a stretchable bag like Hermoine's that could fit in all the filled sandooks.

Incidentally, these sandooks make me wonder when closets and cupboards were invented. Wouldn't it have been highly inconvenient to have your things in these boxes and dig into them when you wanted something. Travel - okay. But everyday!!!😲😔

This is it for the main analysis. I can practically hear you, having huffed and puffed your way to this point, groaning: What? There is to be MORE? 😆

Not at all. Like Oliver Twist, we would want some MORE.😃