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Posted: 8 years ago
#71
Thank you, my dear Varala!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: varala

Brilliant post👏👏

Thanks for pm 😊

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Posted: 8 years ago
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An interesting and layered take, my dear Sri.

I too hope that the CVs take note of the sinking TRPs and do a 180 degrees about turn from Bharatmata's supremely smug and self-satisfied pronouncements on Nandini. Yes, a major calamity can turn a person inside out, but the general indication thus far is of a change, not of her nature, but of her intent and purpose, to wit to assassinate CGM.

In the Friday night precap, I looked at Nandini, then at Chandragupta's profile and then back at her; she was by then at her favourite biting her lower lip tic. I was, for once, bereft of words.

So I join you in devoutly hoping that Shweta rediscovers her acting ability and that the CV give her good scenes with great lines. She cannot, I feel, rise above the script, so the latter is vital.

This has to happen if only because, for Rajat's sake, the show has to succeed. I want a big hit for him, not a limping also ran. Right now, I think she is pulling the show down. It is not just me, it seems the viewers as a whole are not identifying with her at all. Things have to change from the next week if the show is not to lose crucial momentum. Fingers crossed!

One major doubt. Chandragupta knows that Nandini hates him virulently. Why then, especially when Mura is around, would he hand Bindusara over to this person who has been trying to kill him, the baby's father, time and again? Would he not be afraid that she would kill the baby ? In his place, and Mura's, they would not let Nandini anywhere near the baby.


Shyamala Akka


Originally posted by: jayaks02

Being a National Award winner in childhood and pretty impressive Precaps before the start of the serial had me thinking that Sweta will give a layered and measured performance.

So far, Mostly she has been widening her eyes and blurting out PMR dialogues only. I agree her character has not been developed well till now. But CVs could do a 360 Deg once Nand and her brothers are gone. We can hope to see a very powerful performance as CVs want a sea change in her behavior to come out. Typically when tragedy of mammoth proportion strike out, people change inside out. We may as well not see the chirpy Nandini any longer.

She wull probably not bother about gibving the throne to Helena as her focus will be on getting revenge from CGM initially. In the first few months of marriage, she will be shown as Abla Nari where there will be no single soul in whole of Magadh to protect or provide solace to her.

Biggest turning point will come when she willingly adopts Bindusara when Durdhara goes down after the birth. This will make CGM go in favor of Nandini as his soulmate and fav queen. From then on Mahanta will win and it will be a Saas Bahu stuff. If we get to see Chanakya once a week, we can consider ourselves lucky.

The serial today is a lot more interesting .

Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


@Prem, yes it's not at all practical but think about it. . Nand has kept Murat alive for so long . And she has been rubbing it in his face that her son will come. He has imprisoned her but yet she humiliates him, because he wanted her but could not have her. He could have taken her forcibly but wanted her acceptance. She affects him in some way . So it's something at a deeper level. Maybe he just wants to kill Chandra and then torment her . Why he has kept his foster parents alive is a mystery though 😆

Her my son will come rants make her sound like Jaya bachan in Karan Arun. Thank God it wasn't like waiting for someone's punah janam because it's a historical


No king would listen to so many rants from a ex queen prisoner

Nand loves Mura why? love is blind he loves her so she is alive simple

He listens to her rant too because he loves her

If it was lust then by now Mura would be a cocubbine in his harem

Foster parents - well that is CV fault they are alive still

Edited by myviewprem - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shailusri1983

Prem if you ask me, CGM was not foolish in single handedly attempting a rescue of Moora and his foster parents and leaving them in Nand's captivity. One, Moora would not have budged an inch from that place if her son had not fought, defeated Nand, killed him, all his sons, and come to take her from the prison with Samman!

Two, there was no way he could have togged all three of the captives along with him on the same horse without the back of the horse breaking due to all this undue hardship and infinite stress. Third, even if he or the horse managed such a ridiculous feat, there was no way all the foursome would have broken free of all the defenses in the Patliputra Palace without falling off the back of the horse. One, two, three or even all four of them might have fallen off the horse in this attempt.

Four, even if he managed to tie up the Three Muketeering Parents, he would have a very tough time fighting off the palace guards and soldiers. All the other three are non-combatants and would severely hamper his fighting and at the same time defending and protecting him and the others from these attacks.

All four would have surely lost their lives in this attempt. Unless he had reinforcements and help at hand, it was not a thing he could try alone and solo in a one man army type mission like this. So he definitely had to take his chance and trust his luck and leave the threesome wherever they were under the hope that Nand will keep them imprisoned and not execute such hapless prisoners who were in his mercy.

Moora rants to her heart's content but that's all she does and can do. She is a woman and in no way a threat to Nand, his army or his administration. As far as I see, I think that was the rule book the ancients adopted in choosing to keep whom as prisoners and whom to execute.

Now you may ask me what about the murder of those 49 new born kids by Nand on the day CGM was born? Nand murdered those kids because he suspected that one of them could be Suryagupt's successors.

Generally an usurper never left anybody in the male line of the king whom he killed even the new born for fear that they would challenge his authority some time in future. The same was the case with male relatives and faithful male retainers and family friends or allies. They were all executed.

Woman were either forced into the harem of the victor or kept in imprisonment. Executing a woman for no valid reason was considered to be downright vicious and unbecoming conduct even in such a despicable king like Nand.

My only issue was CGM barging into Nandini's room and launching into that long tirade about who he was and the reasons for his enemity with Nand. There was no way Nand would have confirmed his suspicions about the true identity of CGM if he had not blabbered it to Nandini.

In a way, now he was giving Nand new ideas of making use of Moora or his foster parents in weakening his resolve or preventing him from taking any decisive action because he had these three as hostages with him. Luck favors him and Nand does not take this hint. But what CGM did might have actually endangered the lives of the three. However, he was not thinking straight in his anger. It is too much to expect him to be so cool and composed after learning such a huge truth about himself.


I did not say rescue now from prison foster parents

I said why chankya and CGM did not keep them in safe place for so many years when they attacked Nnad and left them to be guniea pigs for Nands revenge


Mura is anyway safe because Nnad is crazily in love for her so he will never kill her

Its like revrse of stockholm syndrome

Like a male lion kills all babies and takes over pride same thing for nand

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Posted: 8 years ago
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No, no, my dear Tejaswini, I do not want to whack you, even if only with a slipper and not my trusty belan! 😉

I do not know now why I got so exasperated by that phrase of yours, but I did, and I am sorry about that. Not on your behalf, but on my own; at my age, I ought to be more mature and patient. I think it is the constant pain that is getting me down. My threshold of tolerance for pain is unfortunately quite low.

These days, I often get cheesed off when people comment on my posts after having barely read them properly. I do not want them to praise me or the posts, only to discuss issues flagged there in a logical and intelligent manner. So when some - not you! - mention the same points that I have already discussed in detail in the post, as if they were new discoveries, I begin to grit my teeth!😡 The other red rag is the excellent/wonderful/marvellous as usual phrase, which to me is an indication that the writer has not even skimmed thru the post!

Anyhow, I ought to have known that you do not fall into either of these categories, and overlooked that opening phrase!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham


Hi aunty! my apologies for not engaging more intensively with this particular post! admittedly I had already written this meant for a discussion on your previous post and then just figured since the conversation had already shifted to the new thread to post it here. but ! I have read this one on the go and i solemnly swear to engage further once im free aka kids are in bed. and your posts are anything but routine. its for me at least a wonderful break from my routine. much appreciated! and aunty ofcourse no offense taken. please feel free to whack me whenever you deem the need! 😃

Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#76
Quite right!

But you mean the 100 meter dash, my dear Amina. The marathon is not a fast race. It is always run at a steady, sustainable pace, for the contestant has to cover the 26 miles 385 yards (over 42 kms) in the first place, and then only think of getting there first!😆

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: amina1

I think makers are in hurry to start this love story,thats why its so fast like a marathon

Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


And he for her is the cause of every worry, every angst her family is currently facing, the reason why her father needs Malayaketu, the reason why she is having to agree to marry a reprehensible person, the reason for every turmoil in her otherwise pampered and peaceful life.

That Chandra's anger is justified as it is based on truth and her outlook is based on her father's untruth and hence invalid, is not her fault na. We will see her reactions when she realises the truth.

No soft corner for the character or the actress . 😆 Both are mediocre. Just a teeny weeny relief that she is not a mahaan. She has her prejudices, faults, foolishness and has a lot to learn. She cannot become a Moral Science teacher any time soon.

Certainly no Mandali. Eeeks! She only has to deliver her first Bhaashan and i'll be off totally.



I am not in agreement with above sentence

By your logic victim family is responsible for murderers family suffering

Or police and judge who sentence responsible for murderers or theif family suffering

Not really read any religious book it says jaisa karam karoge waisa pal paoge

And as nands family member nandini, avantika, dhanannad all are part of crimes perperated by nand on CGM family and citizens of magadh etc

Nandini enjoyed the fruits of blood money and bhog of nand(knowingly or unknowingly) and she is somewhere liable for fathers and parents crimes and so are her brothers

Chandra only will defeat evil like a judge gives justice by giving death sentence to murderer for his crimes

Like Krishna did in Mahabharat to Kauravas

What error did duryodhanas mother, bhishma, vidur, dhronacharya, karan etc do

Did they humiliate draupadi or try to kill pandavas nooo

Yet they all died in Mahabharat because they are in wrong side

Nandini is lucky she did not get killed or sit in prison getting whipped like Mura

Nandini is crore times better of than any of above who did not do any crime but punished for being family, friends, guru etc of kauravas

Nandini is no small milk drinking baby that she cannot understand right from wrong, In US and Europe 13-14 year olds get punished as adults for murders etc

In ancient times in BC a 13-14 year old was considered an adult old enough to marry and have kids

Nandini may be 16-18 years old and by 21st century that means about 25-30 years

So if shes blind to her parents fault, its her mistake, the society and law will not accept argument that although i am 16-18 years old i have brain of a baby(0-6 year old) and do not understand wrong from right. And she has seen ample prof off injustice in front of her eyes Mura whipped and abused etc so she is no innocent baby to just say i did not know Nnads injustices. I am sure how nand became a king is well known to all of nands children indirectly as maids etc must be gossiping and Mura keeps shouting at top of voice his crimes.

Indeed every by stander who stands and watches injustice is responsible in bit for that crime because if that person raises voice that crime or injustice may not happen. If all close eyes to crime, injustice etc than world will become a war field


Edited by myviewprem - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Exactly, my dear Prem!👏 I was dead tired of arguing on these points, but I am very glad that you have done it for me, and better and more forcefully than I could have. Gandhari and Dhritarashtra of course do not die, but what happens to them is worse than death, and your overall point is spot on.

It seems that not only is Nandini going to get off easily, but the quintessentially wicked Avantika as well. Nandini at least can be blamed only for being deliberately and blindly ignorant of all the wickedness of her father, but Avantika was a willing partner in his crimes. Apparently nothing is to happen to her either. Truly, as the Bible says, the wicked flourish like the green bay tree.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: myviewprem

I am not in agreement with above sentence

By your logic victim family is responsible for murderers family suffering

Or police and judge who sentence responsible for murderers or theif family suffering

Not really read any religious book it says jaisa karam karoge waisa pal paoge

And as nands family member nandini, avantika, dhanannad all are part of crimes perperated by nand on CGM family and citizens of magadh etc

Nandini enjoyed the fruits of blood money and bhog of nand(knowingly or unknowingly) and she is somewhere liable for fathers and parents crimes and so are her brothers

Chandra only will defeat evil like a judge gives justice by giving death sentence to murderer for his crimes

Like Krishna did in Mahabharat to Kauravas

What error did duryodhanas mother, bhishma, vidur, dhronacharya, karan etc do

Did they humiliate draupadi or try to kill pandavas nooo

Yet they all died in Mahabharat because they are in wrong side

Nandini is lucky she did not get killed or sit in prison getting whipped like Mura

Nandini is crore times better of than any of above who did not do any crime but punished for being family, friends, guru etc of kauravas

Nandini is no small milk drinking baby that she cannot understand right from wrong, In US and Europe 13-14 year olds get punished as adults for murders etc

In ancient times in BC a 13-14 year old was considered an adult old enough to marry and have kids

Nandini may be 16-18 years old and by 21st century that means about 25-30 years

So if shes blind to her parents fault, its her mistake, the society and law will not accept argument that although i am 16-18 years old i have brain of a baby(0-6 year old) and do not understand wrong from right. And she has seen ample prof off injustice in front of her eyes Mura whipped and abused etc so she is no innocent baby to just say i did not know Nnads injustices. I am sure how nand became a king is well known to all of nands children indirectly as maids etc must be gossiping and Mura keeps shouting at top of voice his crimes.

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

And he for her is the cause of every worry, every angst her family is currently facing, the reason why her father needs Malayaketu, the reason why she is having to agree to marry a reprehensible person, the reason for every turmoil in her otherwise pampered and peaceful life.

That Chandra's anger is justified as it is based on truth and her outlook is based on her father's untruth and hence invalid, is not her fault na. We will see her reactions when she realises the truth.

No soft corner for the character or the actress . 😆 Both are mediocre. Just a teeny weeny relief that she is not a mahaan. She has her prejudices, faults, foolishness and has a lot to learn. She cannot become a Moral Science teacher any time soon.

Certainly no Mandali. Eeeks! She only has to deliver her first Bhaashan and i'll be off totally.



Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Sandhya and Shreya,

I find your great understanding of Nandini's motives and actions towards Mura very interesting. I think you both have a soft corner for this wretched girl, otherwise I f would slot this equation that you both are trotting out between what Chandra did and what Nandini did as incomprehensible and intolerable. I would be obliged if you do not advance it again, at least not on my threads.

Shreya actually says that the way he behaved in Nandini's room was not decorous Not decorous!?! She is for him the very symbol of evil, the evil that ruined his life, murdered his father and enslaved his mother. What do you think he should have done, taken her a bouquet of red roses? Any other man would have killed her then and there and left her body for Nand to find. Which is what Vaishali tries to do, and I could understand that completely.

I detest this Nandini now, and nothing bad that happens to her would be too bad for me. Unfortunately, we are going to have to suffer her for the rest of the serial.

Shyamala Aunty



Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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My dear Ria,

I was very pleased to see such a detailed and comprehensive set of comments from you,showing that you have not only read this over 6 page long post, but enjoyed it as well. Thank you, my dear.

I agree with all your comments, and so have nothing much to add to them. Only this. I took special pains over that opening scene of Chandra's. I wrote and edited it for over an hour. Then, at first I did not know where to place it so it would stand out, for it was to be the heart of the post. I was relieved when I got the idea of a prologue, which fitted in perfectly.

After seeing your very warm and heartfelt comment about this section, I felt that all my effort was worth it!

Shyamala Aunty

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Posted: 8 years ago
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The really frightful thing, my dear Amina, is that those corkscrew curls infection has now travelled to Helena as well! She had a nice smooth blondish hair do,and now in the battle she also sports corkscrew curls hanging down on both sides of her face!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: amina1

Aunty those curls were less today but honestly im not liking nandani atall and shweta doesnt help much

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