Chandra Nandini 26-28: Vengeance is mine!

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Ela Singh

@elasingh

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Posted: 8 years ago

#91

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

She even looks like rukaiya in a way. .

Yes Rose..She does...and she will live longer than Nandini like Rukaiya.😆

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amina1

@amina1

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Posted: 8 years ago

#92

Originally posted by: sashashyam
The really frightful thing, my dear Amina, is that those corkscrew curls infection has now travelled to Helena as well! She had a nice smooth blondish hair do,and now in the battle she also sports corkscrew curls hanging down on both sides of her face!

Shyamala Aunty

😆 i wonder what they use for those perfect curls curling iron ,never liked them 😆 they were too advance perfectly sewb top for helen perfect makeup so why not a curling iron🤪

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sashashyam

@sashashyam

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Posted: 8 years ago

#93

I am delighted that you enjoy these posts of mine, my dear Ela.

Yes, of course it is wrong of Helena to do that with poor little Durdhara, who is too childlike (not childish!) for words. She reminded me of nothing so much as a lioness marking out her territory, with a large board NO TRESPASSING!!

But I do not think good and bad apply to Helena.She is as she is, and I do not think she will tolerate being crossed. Durdhara gives her a walkover, but it will be eventually interesting to see how she behaves when she has to compete with Nandini. I too hope she does not become Ruqaiya II, but right now, her relationship with Chandragupta not at all like Ruqaiya's with Jalal.

As I have discussed earlier, it is very strong, refreshing, and supportive, and she has the ability to get thru to him when he is depressed. But from now on, he will not be needing this so much. Let us see how she develops. I like her very much more than I liked even Smiley's Ruqaiya.

Nandini needs to pull up her socks and begin acting for a change!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: elasingh
Excellent post as usual Shyamala.👏...As you have written a lot about these episodes I want to say one thing...I like Helena very much but didn't like the way she behaved with Misthi before her first night...That was really wrong on her part...I fear that she might turn out to be another Rukaiya begum...Any way She is still better than Nandini who I don't like too much ..atleast not yet...

JA's trp fell because the show later on became somewhat Jodha oriented...I hope Ekta has learned something from it.

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Sandhya.A

@Sandhya.A

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Posted: 8 years ago

#94

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Yes I like it. Shani is a very emotional God and he is supposed to be scary. He has destroyed many with just his stare. If people, demons and Gods aren't scared of him they won't be afraid of doing bad deeds because he is the one maintain the balance of karmas. He doesn't leave without giving you learning. In astrology, whichever house he sits in shows where u have karmic debt and soul learning in this life. If he is good, he can bless and take people to heights.

He is dark, but he emits blue light . Look carefully the costume he is wearing is actually blue.

Any links where i can watch it on the net?

I've heard of the story of Shani. Son of Suryadev and Chaya, brother to Yama and Yamuna and the Ashwini Kumars. And Chaya was supposed to be a clone of Suryadev's wife Sanjana. ( I'm really amazed by these scientific concepts in the epics and these God stories. Cloning and surrogation and Nuclear weapons and what not!) But no idea of what adult Shani was. So it should be interesting.

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Shinning_Stuti

@Shinning_Stuti

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Posted: 8 years ago

#95

Originally posted by: sashashyam
My dear Debastuti,

What a warm and lovely take on the prologue in particular, and on the post as a whole! Thanks a million! As I wrote to Ria above - she too loved that part specially - I took extra pains over that segment,and I am delighted when someone like you or Ria really finds it to be special

I do wish Rajat could read it, it would cheer him up no end.

I am damn sure he would feel blessed to read your analysis on him. 😳

My comments are in blue.

Shyamala Aunty

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pakhiv.

@pakhiv.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#96

Hi Auntie,
Sorry for being late to comment... Caught amidst life's little oddities. Using mobile so won't be able to use all features
Your post was flawless and to comment I'm liberally borrowing from your lines only
And
In unprecedented defiance, and his first ever negation of his guru'swarning -whichat this point is not to get swept away on the tide of his pain and his emotions, which mightsweep awayhis victory - Chandragupta retorts:
Yes here he was defying all odds.. His barren life and a melancholy the child and the adolescent faced.. His genes pushed him to defy but the social community dictionary was asking him to bow down.
But yes blue blood never dies. The defiance arose in a humongous way.
He got all answers to the questions his soul was asking to his karma. And yes he was extremely satisfied with them

s"Vengeance is mine, I will repay it,saith the Lord". However,Chandragupta is not willing towait for divine retribution to catch up with Nand
Yes these lines just echo the he central idea of the show... Perfectly put
paritranaya sadhunam
Vinasaya cha duskrtam
Dharma-samsthapanarthaya
Sambhavami yuge yuge
Splendid catharsis:A little earlier, when Chandragupta is seeking, through extreme physicalstress, to exorcise the demons of guilt and grief that haunt him after seeing the condition of his mother,the whole, splendid display of unbridledmasculine oomph

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Ya ya ooh ya the unsurpassed projection of male libido.. Though the situation was tense. Indeed catharsis was on and the moment of sublimity came when he kneeled on the ground tear stricken but tears were stained with the blood bath of his parent's life... And his own childhood

When she manages to break free andretorts thathe will not be able to touch her father, Chandragupta's mirthless smile is terrifying. He calls her amoorkhfor not realizing the truth about her father, noting that she would realise it some day.

Indeed nandini needs a perfect redemption I don't mind creatives dedicate full three episodes to her and make her realization and apology a genuine one.

Remember Avantika, immediately after Mura has been captured and jailed by Padmanand after she rebuffs him, going to Mura and indulging in the same kind of spiteful, vicious taunts as Nandini did last night? Avantika too spoke of the 39 newborns Nand had had killed, like Kamsa, and gloated that Mura's son too must have been among them. So like mother, like daughter as well.

Avantika somehow from the day one Auntie I want her end like lady Macbeth.. A crude copy of dagger and sleepwalking scene will do... Hehe I know I am expecting too much
But as per show she will be around to infuse some sense into her girl
Nandini at present is just... Diabolical..
short, ourguruvarhere resembles nothing so much as a brood hen laying eggsone after the other. No wonder that Chandra reacts with someexasperation,and responds to Chanakya's last gripe withab prashna ka samadhaan bhi aap hi batayiye!
Hahaha ha... Epic one
Next is sure Helena telling chanakya what to do next you bet.
Helenas true colors are out and her wild possessive street is also highlighted.
But chandra is no rabbit. Let's see lady is Intriguing.

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amina1

@amina1

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#97

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

You will have to wait a year for that 😆

i have no problem by than the show should be a hit 😆 lets hope for it as trp kuck achi nahi hai

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mishtidoi

@mishtidoi

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#98

Its 8 packs...ahem...OK now the post😳

I don't know how you do it Aunty, but your way with words is at par with the treat viewers were treated visually...reading the opening was like watching the play in motion again. I must say both were awesome.

In the scene Chandra was anguished as well as simmering with rage, which he was trying to control...and Rajat did fab job of emoting those emotions, his heart was hurting but was struggling to keep his head straight so as not to lose sight of the prize and victory.

Both Chanakya and Helena were empathetic to him, her eyes glossed over with unshed tears, this Helena who is calculating, which just shows her attachment to Chandra in such a short span of time.

The catharsis was suited for a warrior like Chandra and also suited for us viewers...I mean it was no harm, good to know our boy is healthy and fit...and can indeed do those unbelievable war stunts😉

As for Nandini...you know my views about her.

She's a partner in crime with the King of Magadh, who happens to be her father. She's NOT ignorant herself or to his deeds, not as much as viewers think, she is. Case in point, she knows about his treatment of Mura, having read many leather bound books, which are seen in her hands, she must know how POW and a former Queen at that should be treated. Suffice to say, her views about a ruler treating his/her praja are not even remotely Ramrajya like. When Mura told her about the murders done by Nand, she not only calls them lies but goes a step further saying he won Magadh, as she believes, and that Mura should get over and be sport in accepting defeat.

Well Nandini, time for you to be a good sport.🥱

The actress is terrible with mouth always gulping like gold fish, teeth gritting and wide-wide eyes with no emotions in them. These are her standard emotions. I don't have future hopes, because she was given plenty of scenes by the CVs to prove her mettle, at least a little of it.

I also loved Chandra- Durdhara's wedding night sequence. Chandra not only put Durdhara at ease, but also, made sure all was well within their small little bubble of a world. He was not pretending to be having fun, he actually was relaxed, fresh and happy in there...with Durdhara is his own Alice in wonderland world. He does not thinks Durdhara as childish but childlike as you put it Aunty...an adult who has not forgotten his/her inner child in the demanding circle of life. Also their relationship is quite free and open with each other, like a breathe of fresh air.

As for Helena and Durdhara, former was certainly marking her territory and latter was simply avoiding conflict.

Durdhara is someone who avoids conflict if she can. I don't see her as weak. I saw her strength when she acknowledged Helena's superior skills not only to herself and Helena, but also to Chandra and in presence of Chanakya.

She sure is intimidated by Helena, but is not insecure...(as of now, that is.😆)

This also shows her faith and trust in her best friend and husband Chandra. This is rare quality in a polygamous marriage.

I've said earlier, this Helena-Chandra-Durdhara equation is in complete symphony.

...which CVs, through Nandini, are bound to destroy in their attempt to attain their very own version of ajar-amar prem😡

Aunty, this is EK's Chanakya we are talking about😉😆

Why is not anyone talking about the latest and final war sequence? It was impressive. OK on that later.

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Sandhya.A

@Sandhya.A

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

#99

Originally posted by: myviewprem

I am not in agreement with above sentence

By your logic victim family is responsible for murderers family suffering

Or police and judge who sentence responsible for murderers or theif family suffering

Not really read any religious book it says jaisa karam karoge waisa pal paoge

And as nands family member nandini, avantika, dhanannad all are part of crimes perperated by nand on CGM family and citizens of magadh etc

Nandini enjoyed the fruits of blood money and bhog of nand(knowingly or unknowingly) and she is somewhere liable for fathers and parents crimes and so are her brothers

Chandra only will defeat evil like a judge gives justice by giving death sentence to murderer for his crimes

Like Krishna did in Mahabharat to Kauravas

What error did duryodhanas mother, bhishma, vidur, dhronacharya, karan etc do

Did they humiliate draupadi or try to kill pandavas nooo

Yet they all died in Mahabharat because they are in wrong side

Nandini is lucky she did not get killed or sit in prison getting whipped like Mura

Nandini is crore times better of than any of above who did not do any crime but punished for being family, friends, guru etc of kauravas

Nandini is no small milk drinking baby that she cannot understand right from wrong, In US and Europe 13-14 year olds get punished as adults for murders etc

In ancient times in BC a 13-14 year old was considered an adult old enough to marry and have kids

Nandini may be 16-18 years old and by 21st century that means about 25-30 years

So if shes blind to her parents fault, its her mistake, the society and law will not accept argument that although i am 16-18 years old i have brain of a baby(0-6 year old) and do not understand wrong from right. And she has seen ample prof off injustice in front of her eyes Mura whipped and abused etc so she is no innocent baby to just say i did not know Nnads injustices. I am sure how nand became a king is well known to all of nands children indirectly as maids etc must be gossiping and Mura keeps shouting at top of voice his crimes.

Indeed every by stander who stands and watches injustice is responsible in bit for that crime because if that person raises voice that crime or injustice may not happen. If all close eyes to crime, injustice etc than world will become a war field

Nandini is certainly guilty of willful neglect of her duties as a princess, of blindly adoring her father and never caring to see his faults even when they are staring at her face. But she was not a part of Nand's crime nor Avantika's. Nor a mute spectator. She can only be accused of wearing a Pitaji-Maharaj patti over her eyes and not doing a post-mortem of events that occured even before she was born.

In the Mahabharat, Bhishma, Dronacharya, Vidur were all mute spectators to a horrible crime. Inspite of being Great Warriors, the elders of the family, Acharyas and Wise men, they did not stand up to stop it. Karna was a part of the crime. During the gambling, he prompted Duryodhan further, as he resented being humiliated by Draupadi for calling him a Sut-putra at the Swayamvar and wanted to pay her back. He lost control of his otherwise fair-minded self, by his continued humiliation since childhood, and insulted Draupadi himself. Gandhari allowed her brother to stay at Hastinapur inspite of knowing what sort of influence he was on Duryodhan. All of them were either causes, direct or indirect, part of or mute spectators of Duryodhan's crime.

Here Nandini is none of those. We as viewers know what happened. Nandini doesn't. Her fault is that she didn't care to find out. But why would she? Even if Mura screams of Nand's crimes, why would Nandini believe her? Or Chandra's words against her father for that matter, especially when she has been seeing and experiencing the total opposite since her childhood. She has seen a chained Mura. But wouldn't she believe it if told that she was a political prisoner, her husband and she had conspired and killed the earlier king or committed some other heinous crime. Nand would have told her just that. And prisoners those days, were treated far worse. Tortures and instant sar-kalmofying were not uncommon.

But Yes. She was raised on paap-ki-daulat and has to pay for it and she will certainly suffer for that.

Her suffering is not at par with that of Mura or Chandra. But her anger against Chandra and hence Mura is not groundless either, considering that she doesn't know what they suffered because of her father. From her view, Chandra is the reason why her father is suffering now and she is having to marry an oaf. If she learns the truth of her Pitaji Maharaj's cruelty and YET blames Chandra/Mura for meting out justice and causing her suffer, then she is entirely at fault. Not till then. Right now her guilt is negligence and refusal to analyse truth, not baseness or cruelty.

But Shweta so far has been pathetic. Which makes Nandini proportionately insufferable. Especially when juxtaposed against Rajat's brilliance, which wins over the viewer's empathy completely in one clean sweep!

Edited by Sandhya.A - 8 years ago

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pakhiv.

@pakhiv.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#100

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Nandini is certainly guilty of willful neglect of her duties as a princess, of blindly adoring her father and never caring to see his faults even when they are staring at her face. But she was not a part of Nand's crime nor Avantika's. Nor a mute spectator. She can only be accused of wearing a Pitaji-Maharaj patti over her eyes and not doing a post-mortem of events that occured even before she was born.

In the Mahabharat, Bhishma, Dronacharya, Vidur were all mute spectators to a horrible crime. Inspite of being Great Warriors, the elders of the family, Acharyas and Wise men, they did not stand up to stop it. Karna was a part of the crime. During the gambling, he prompted Duryodhan further, as he resented being humiliated by Draupadi for calling him a Sut-putra at the Swayamvar and wanted to pay her back. He lost control of his otherwise fair-minded self, by his continued humiliation since childhood, and insulted Draupadi herself. Gandhari allowed her brother to stay at Hastinapur inspite of knowing what sort of influence he was on Duryodhan. All of them were either causes, direct or indirect, part of or mute spectators of Duryodhan's crime.

Here Nandini is none of those. We as viewers know what happened. Nandini doesn't. Her fault is that she didn't care to find out. But why would she? Even if Mura screams of Nand's crimes, why would Nandini believe her? Or Chandra's words against her father for that matter, especially when she has been seeing and experiencing the total opposite since her childhood. She has seen a chained Mura. But wouldn't she believe it if told that she was a political prisoner, her husband and she had conspired and killed the earlier king or committed some other heinous crime. Nand would have told her just that. And prisoners those days, were treated far worse. Tortures and instant sar-kalmofying were not uncommon.

But Yes. She was raised on paap-ki-daulat and has to pay for it and she will certainly suffer for that.

Her suffering is not at par with that of Mura or Chandra. But her anger against Chandra and hence Mura is not groundless either, considering that she doesn't know what they suffered because of her father. From her view, Chandra is the reason why her father is suffering now and she is having to marry an oaf. If she learns the truth of her Pitaji Maharaj's cruelty and YET blames Chandra/Mura for meting out justice and causing her suffer, then she is entirely at fault. Not till then. Right now her guilt is negligence and refusal to analyse truth, not baseness or cruelty.

But Shweta so far has been pathetic. Which makes Nandini proportionately insufferable. Especially when juxtaposed against Rajat's brilliance, which wins over the viewer's empathy completely in one clean sweep!

Grand dissection of both nandini nd Shweta

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