Originally posted by: xaviara
Bani, I have been reading the past few of your topics, and since I disagreed with you on a lot of points, I didn't want to get into an endless debate 😊
I want to say something, and I hope you don't mind my saying it, which is that you keep calling yourself a neutral viewer, but I'm sorry I don't find you neutral at all, you are just as biased as us !! And your bias start and ends with Divya !! Since day one you have labeled her as selfish and self centered, and not worthy of anyone's, especially Nivi's sacrifice !! Had her character been anything like Ragini, you would be supporting Nivi the most and you know that !!
Whatever has happened, is Sid's mess !! He dug his own grave, and no one but him is responsible for it !! In fact he is not only responsible for his misery and problems, he is responsible for the misery of the other 3 characters too !! Nivi and Viren would not have even dared to interfere in his life had he just been true to the sacrifice he made !! But he didn't, he sulked, he was cold and distant with Divya, gave her the silent treatment when she tried to ask him what is wrong ? why is he acting in such a manner ? But refused to answer her questions when she dared to ask him !! He had the chance to speak up then and tell Divya everything, make her understand why he is acting the way he is and leave the decision up to her !! But he didn't, so she did what every girl would do in the situation, made the best of it ! Had she called of her wedding, she and her family would be humiliated, and she didn't see Sid trying to end the wedding himself, so she gathered all her courage and told Sid that I know you don't love me, but I will try my level best to make you fall in love with me ! It was not a challenge, it was a promise to herself !!
You keep saying that NivRen didn't have to pretend to do all this, to make sure he married Divya, because he was going to marry her anyways ! But that's just it, they didn't pretend to make sure DivSid would get married, they pretended because they wanted Sid to move on and be happy with Divya and give her the happiness she deserves as his wife !! Because NivRen knew he hadn't moved one, because they knew he was just going through the motions of getting married !! That is why then pretended !!
As for getting married, NivRen had to get married because the same reason too, which I have said it from day one, the only way Sid would be able to move on would be if Nivi was off limits !! Viren was so right, had Nivi stayed single, Divya would have been a married woman, leading a loveless marriage !! Before Sid was going through the motions for the wedding, he would have gone through the motions for their married life as well !!
Now you would say, Divya could have let him go ! Why should she ? Isn't Sid marrying her for a reason too, for his dada sahib ? So why should she not marry him for her love ? Why should she be the one to humiliate her family and herself by calling off the wedding ?? I feel she is showing much more character and inner strength then Sid ! At least she is being true to Sid about why she is not letting him go, or not calling off the wedding, knowing how he feels !!
You also said that he would be facing death every day, if he had to consummate his marriage right ? Didn't you say so yourself, that Sid would have married Divya even if NivRen has not interfered ? So in that case would it have been more easy for him to consummate his marriage ? Had he been true to his sacrifice, would he not be expected to consummate his marriage ? He would have, so why was it not a death for him then ? Only because Nivi would be still available and not married to anyone ? Would the pain of consummation with Divya lessened, had Nivi been pining for him ??
Because it sure looked that way, when he boasted to Nivi in anger that not only would he move on, but he would also be happy !!!
So it all comes back to all the fault being Divya's !! So it is okay for Sid to call of the wedding as the last minute forgetting everyone, including his dada sahib, but it is not okay for Divya to take a risk and try and win Sid's love ?? If Sid can dare to be selfish, why can't Divya ??
Can I please request you one thing...please do not bring in Sadhna or Rgaini in our disussions. As mentione dbefore, I like Sadhna, because the ethics and morals that I follow in life, I found in Sadhna, but when Sadhna died, the same ethics and values I found in Ragini and thus unlike many viewers I continued watching Bidaaai....because for me, Bidaai is not just Sdahna, but some emotions attached to my moralities and I could find those in Ragini post leap also in the truly "Anmol" character Anmol ... I might be biased, but I'll never cross my limits to label something or someone bad as good and this I'll never do for anything or anyone in this world...I can never label a girl like Divya anything close to "good"...because she did not bother to think about what her badepapa did (except a sympathetic words), her dadi's insults etc etc...she did not even bother to offer few words about Viren, when he got injured on the engagement day, rather she was coming and throwing her jewelleries in anger, she never bothered to feel how her own sister Nivedita is managing with her father's treatment, she comes to Nivi only with her own problems. She never can feel how Nivi is managing at this crisis, she is only concerned about her and how relationship will mature with Sid...I am sorry, I might be biased, I might be anything...but I cannot stand for a girl like Divya. Yes, I do agree that I am obsessed with Divya and her selfishness....and I am not ashamed of that in anyway.
Just to clarify, I had loved Nivedita's character also, but I feel creatives have butchered her character a lot. There were 100s of ways to show Nivedita-Viren marriage, which would have established not only their love but also that this couple is made for each other. Nivi's "women of substance" transformation have been completely been shown "backdoor"...Before even Sid could join on that fight day, the stuff that broke that Nivedita's patience was the news that their mother was not snatched from them by God, but due to the action of a human being, thats the tough words of Yashodhara. Then Sid came in, he heard about his father's murder etc and then he could not make out who was right and who was wrong. He did not believe, but the worst part he did was to see silently the physical abuse of Keshav(if anyone remembers, I am the person who made that thread also) and then afterwards never tried to find out how Nivi was managing...Sid comepletely faltered here and that marked him from his side completelt unworthy of Nivedita...
but as per me Nivedita's character evolution as per being "women of substance" is stopped (my definition of women of women of substance is Damini movie or Zakhm movie")...the show nor will show the love story of Nivedita Viren Sood and Viren Sood and Sid-Divya. My question is where did Nivedita's vow go with respect to Soods now?....did she not vow about taking care of her father, not forgiving the Sood clan for what they did to her father. I also know that Viren was never a part of that big day mess and he can never be evaluated as being Jawahar's son only. But, did Nivedita ever think of her father or dadi when she married Viren...could she opt another way? was that the iseal time to marry Viren s Is Divya so important than her own father or dadi? I understand she made this decision for Divya, but why she had to go to the temple that day to burn Sid's memories and give an indication to Sid. Sid was so ashamed of his wrong doings, that he never dared to come near Nivedita after that day. He knew what he did to Nivedita cannot be forgiven, if at all anyone could forgive him, it would be Keshav, Nivedita and Dadi. But Nivedita's one weak point gave Sid the option to feel that she still loves Sid.
I still remember the day, when Nivedita shed all her inhibitions for Yash's admission and Keshav's treatment money to enter the Sood house with Sharmila. Her determination was such that she did not care who she was working for, and that was enough of a proof that if she crosses a Sood, she would never let them bother her in anyway, good or bad. But her excessive care for Divya and Hemlata's wishes, distanced her not only from her father and dadai, but also led her to marry Viren not with a true mind that "she loves Viren and that he is the right guy". I do not know what Viren has in mind, but since he is true to what he has done till now, I cannot point out at this point, although I did find a major contradiction in his character too.
Edited by Omshanti1111 - 14 years ago
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