The Bachchan's cold shoulder towards Aishwarya Rai

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Moodyblue

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Posted: 3 years ago

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Wow, i navigated through 41 pages of this thread. I think aish is so focused on raising Aradhya, foing occasional work that she doesn't give two effs about bacchans, she seems to be happy in her own space having understood that some relationships cannot be forced. She was good for bacchans only till she could be instrumental in taking Abhishek's career forward.

Maybe AB jr feels he isn't the one Aish dots on anymore nor that i blame her. Abhishek pretends the insecurities don't bother him but they do specially when his father doesn't leave a chance to stay away from limelight. Marriage cannot just magically solve the issues that come with lack of a satisfactory career.

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Posted: 3 years ago

#332

Originally posted by: The_Best
First of all I don’t care if she slept with AB Sr. I only brought that to show the articles and rumors to Ash fan who told me articles are 100% proof. Besides if she slept with Sr AB that’s her choice unless it was after marriage and cheated on Jr AB. I don’t think her sleeping around is wrong on her part or anyone’s part. It’s people choice whom they sleep with as long as they are not cheating one another. But if she or anyone is lying or emotionally manipulative I consider that wrong. I don’t consider emotionally abuse to be something light. I have seen how much it destroys people lives. Not saying Ash did to the extent to destroy lives. But just in general about emotional abuse and how bad they can be if done to every extent. As for physical abuse that’s also wrong and crime and destroy lives.

That *ALSO* word is a problem.

One is an ethical wrong.

One is a crime.

There is no *ALSO* about it because they're not even on the same spectrum.

You are still conflating the 2, and I expect you know it.

Secondly, emotional abuse is your speculation. The other is direct statement by 2 women and news about a 3rd (Katrina being slapped). You're again conflating the 2.

Anyway, this is going around in circles.

I only responded because it's sad to see women do this to other women in the name of men. That, too, not even men they personally know.

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The_Best

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Posted: 3 years ago

#333

Originally posted by: Alia-Nutt
meaning u haven’t come across them yet? Toh bhai on what basis are u claiming she is an emotional abuser? And no I don’t think aish is an angel. She used Vivek as rebound to get over salman and married Abhishek for the last name but that would never change my stand on her being abused. I acknowledge her mistakes

i have come across but I don’t save the links with me for years thinking if one day Ash worshipper ask me for proof I will have it. I said if I come across again I will post them.

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Posted: 3 years ago

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Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

That *ALSO* word is a problem.

One is an ethical wrong.
One is a crime.

There is no *ALSO* about it because they're not even on the same spectrum.

You are still conflating the 2, and I expect you know it.

Secondly, emotional abuse is your speculation. The other is direct statement by 2 women and news about a 3rd (Katrina being slapped). You're again conflating the 2.

Anyway, this is going around in circles.

I only responded because it's sad to see women do this to other women in the name of men. That, too, not even men they personally know.

I never considered all wrongs on the same spectrum. I said if one thing wrong the other is ALSO wrong. Meaning wrong is wrong no matter what. I have already said they all are wrong with VARYING LEVELS. If you keep ignoring that it’s not my problem to keep explaining the same thing over and over. Also in general I don’t consider that if one wrong is considered a crime that automatically means it’s somehow a bigger wrong than a wrong which isn’t a crime under the law. For me not paying taxes which is a crime is less of a wrong than cheating and abusing someone which isn’t a crime. As for physical and emotional abuse, I consider both wrong. But if one damaged a person more than I would consider that abuse more wrong depending on the people involved and the situation. It Ash emotional abuse damaged more then she’s more wrong. If Salman abuse damaged more then he is more wrong. But regardless of who did more abuse I consider both types of abuse as wrong. Taking slaves was also legal and freeing was a crime. But I would consider that a big wrong. Don’t expect me to accept the legal definitions of wrongs. I judge based on the wrong itself and the damage it causes to the victims. Lastly I believe in equality. I have seen enough women who are as abusive. I won’t believe on someone just because it’s a woman. I will call out men and woman abuse both.

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Posted: 3 years ago

#335

Originally posted by: Sparkling_Wine

She says she refused Hollywood movies because of bold scenes but then came back to India and did extremely bold/soft p.rn scenes in Shabd, Choker Bali, and a low-budget indie movie Mistress of Spices. Oh Aishwarya got caught in her lies again!
Ash continued to work in Bollywood after her breakup with Salman, she even worked with Salman's brother Arbaaz and Salman's best friend Sanjay Dutt.

Her Bollywood boycott self-victimization story and drama about needing protection from Salman is so funny that even her in-laws don't believe it. The way they behave warmly towards Salman and Vivek shows that they know Aishwarya's true colors and her lies.
Abhishek went and hugged Vivek after Vivek shared that funny meme about Ash's personal life with political scenario while Amitabh, Abhishek and Shweta continue to praise Salman. It must bug Aishwarya a lot about how her in-laws go out of her way to meet both her ex's.

If Salman is abuser and Vivek is toxic, then why is she working with their families and her own husband is working with them? And if Salman and Vivek are bad, then why is she supporting her husband who’s support wrong and working with her abuser and toxic bad exes? Is it right for her to support wrong by being with Abhishek? She’s an independent woman and can leave him then why doesn’t she?

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Posted: 3 years ago

#336

Ash abused who? Salman?

I can believe ANYTHING except Ash abusing Salman.

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Posted: 3 years ago

#337

Originally posted by: atominis
Ash abused who? Salman?
I can believe ANYTHING except Ash abusing Salman.

I don’t think she abused Salman. She may have been a bit manipulative but I am not completely sure about it. I think Salman has likely abused her. But I do think she was being wrong with Vivek. But then he got what he deserved for dumped dumping his gf for Ash. He was being stupid.

P.S I just came across Salman’s interview where he says he never hit a woman. So now that Salman has also given his interview. I take back that he likely has abused Ash. Why should Ash interview be more believed than Salman? Is Ash lying and accusing Salman or Salman is lying? Ash husband and whole family are all fine with the bad abuser Salman who is accused by Ash.

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Posted: 3 years ago

#338

How did she manipulate Vivek when it is he who did that press conf and ruined his own career? And also embarrassed Ash?

Vivek has been blaming her for his own immature action. Easy to scapegoat a woman or claim she manipulated you or did not appreciate you. What did he want? Appreciation for that press conf?

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Posted: 3 years ago

#339

Originally posted by: atominis
How did she manipulate Vivek when it is he who did that press conf and ruined his own career? And also embarrassed Ash?
Vivek has been blaming her for his own immature action. Easy to scapegoat a woman or claim she manipulated you or did not appreciate you. What did he want? Appreciation for that press conf?

Its my observation based on her interviews and how she comes across. We don’t for sure what she did behind back to tell what to Vivek for him to go crazy that way. The doesn’t mean Vivek himself making press conference or ruining his career is her fault. But she did have an effect on it. Salman also had an effect on his outburst. I find her manipulative and cold in general with many and in particular how she acted with Vivek. You don’t find her bad, that’s your opinion. I do. If I am wrong then I will be wrong and it’s fine. But as of now I am convinced she’s not a saint based on what I have seen of her.

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Posted: 3 years ago

#340

Also again no one answered me. Why is the saint Ash who is the victim and can do no wrong ever and always morally right with a bad person like Abhishek? He’s all friendly with Salman and Vivek both. Not just that Ash herself apparently worked with Salman’s brother. Why is she supporting the wrongs? Is she held on gun point to work with Salman’s brother and be with Abhishek?