Payal says Kangana piggy backs on Alia - Page 3

Originally posted by: janakai

no they were pretty meh. Interesting movies but not the greatest performances. I think her ability to pull off of beat characters is what got directors to cast her. But she proved she cant make a movie hit all the time.She got lucky with queen and TWMR. I enjoyed both these movies. But i wont call them greatest performance ever by a BW actress as ppl on this forum do so. Honestly had it not been her antics we would hv probably forgotten about them. Other movies you mentioned were critically panned too.

After watching Gangubai, I can confidently claim that NOTHING that Kangu has done so far can even come close to what Alia did in Gangubai. I have rarely seen such a character played with so much elan like Alia did. Kangu cannot even get her diction right, forget playing a character like Gangubai. She just mastered playing the batshit crazy wacko person, which is basically what she is in real life also.

Originally posted by: janakai

no they were pretty meh. Interesting movies but not the greatest performances. I think her ability to pull off of beat characters is what got directors to cast her. But she proved she cant make a movie hit all the time.She got lucky with queen and TWMR. I enjoyed both these movies. But i wont call them greatest performance ever by a BW actress as ppl on this forum do so. Honestly had it not been her antics we would hv probably forgotten about them. Other movies you mentioned were critically panned too.

How is rani off beat or even eccentric?? she is the a simple middle class delhi girl, and both queen and TWMR would have never worked without kangana's extraordinary performances, south remade queen and by just looking at the trailer you can tell how much kangana's performance was crucial for the film to be iconic, can't think of one actress today who can pull off the drunk scene or the club scene in queen like kangana did. And same for TWMR, she was so good, many people didn't even realise it was the same actress playing both tanu and datto. And those other films aren't panned, in fact you can't find one bad review for panga from a reputed critic, same for JHK that got great reviews. Simran and rangoon were panned as films but not her performance, infact i think kangana simran performance is her best, even better than queen and TWMR

Originally posted by: catchmeifucan

After watching Gangubai, I can confidently claim that NOTHING that Kangu has done so far can even come close to what Alia did in Gangubai. I have rarely seen such a character played with so much elan like Alia did. Kangu cannot even get her diction right, forget playing a character like Gangubai. She just mastered playing the batshit crazy wacko person, which is basically what she is in real life also.

How is rani mehra, datto and jaya nigam (possibly the most well reviewed kangana performances) "batshit crazy wacko person"?? Lol, kangana can play gangubai in her sleep tbh, and most alia roles. A young kangana in woh lamhe and gangster itself was much better than what alia did in her younger days, even tho she did get far better written films. Alia can never play a shonali from fashion, or do a datto Or do a Bobby from JHK, the list goes on. Kangana has never faltered with her performance for films she signed after queen, and alia's last 2 films were kalank and sadak 2 where she was as bad as sara ali khan

Originally posted by: FilmySpice

How is rani off beat or even eccentric?? she is the a simple middle class delhi girl, and both queen and TWMR would have never worked without kangana's extraordinary performances, south remade queen and by just looking at the trailer you can tell how much kangana's performance was crucial for the film to be iconic, can't think of one actress today who can pull off the drunk scene or the club scene in queen like kangana did. And same for TWMR, she was so good, many people didn't even realise it was the same actress playing both tanu and datto. And those other films aren't panned, in fact you can't find one bad review for panga from a reputed critic, same for JHK that got great reviews. Simran and rangoon were panned as films but not her performance, infact i think kangana simran performance is her best, even better than queen and TWMR

No rani wasnt eccentric. She was a bit dumb. But it was a pretty simple role in my opinion. I meant the other movies.I think it was great timing of 'queen's release that made the difference. Too much commercial crap was around and then this endearing movie came. I actually had friends who didnt like this movie and never got the hype. I actually had to defend kangana's performance. In retrospect however i will say in didnt shatter any glass ceiling for woman as such. it was just a decent movie that did well.I understand kangana genuinely believes in her ability to act. Hence gives everything to it. She is very confident in her performances and it shows. But i think your appreciation for her and claim nobody could do such roles is far fetched. Nobody thought kangana could do these roles b4 she did it.Same goes for other actresses too. Infact it is said she wasnt even the first choice for either queen or twm.

Originally posted by: FilmySpice

How is rani mehra, datto and jaya nigam (possibly the most well reviewed kangana performances) "batshit crazy wacko person"?? Lol, kangana can play gangubai in her sleep tbh, and most alia roles. A young kangana in woh lamhe and gangster itself was much better than what alia did in her younger days, even tho she did get far better written films. Alia can never play a shonali from fashion, or do a datto Or do a Bobby from JHK, the list goes on. Kangana has never faltered with her performance for films she signed after queen, and alia's last 2 films were kalank and sadak 2 where she was as bad as sara ali khan

Shonali from fashion in my opinion is one of the most overrated performances. Seriously man, there was no nuance and her accent was grating.Also her dialogue delivery sucked. I think she got off easy bcoz she was a kind of a rookie back then and film was mostly priyanka's. Also it looked liked a character deliberately put there just to show ill effects of fashion industry. There was no development of character. Pretty sure even PC wouldnt have agreed to do that role. They had to find a B list actress for that role. No way could an A-list actress have done it. And b4 you throw her NA's in my face. Ya i dont believe NA automatically makes you a better actress. Some amazing performances have been ignored .

Originally posted by: janakai

Shonali from fashion in my opinion is one of the most overrated performances. Seriously man, there was no nuance and her accent was grating.Also her dialogue delivery sucked. I think she got off easy bcoz she was a kind of a rookie back then and film was mostly priyanka's. Also it looked liked a character deliberately put there just to show ill effects of fashion industry. There was no development of character. Pretty sure even PC wouldnt have agreed to do that role. They had to find a B list actress for that role. No way could an A-list actress have done it. And b4 you throw her NA's in my face. Ya i dont believe NA automatically makes you a better actress. Some amazing performances have been ignored .

Shonali had no development?? The super successful model who lost her top position and became homeless only to give herself a second chance but not able to defeat her inner demons had no development?? Kangana in first and second half of fashion is dramatically different, it's a great arc for a secondary character. And of course kangana was not an A list then, she was only 22 but she made her mark, literally overshadowed PC in fashion. And her ramp walk is iconic, the way she nailed the attitude and body language of a supermodel even tho she had no experience of pageants. And the scene of wardrobe malfunction when kangana holds her dress, gives the audience a fierce look, turns away as she slowly starts to break down and process what happened is one of her best acting moments, absolute raw emotions there. In those times, characters were definitely not as nuanced as now, and I think fashion as a whole hasn't aged that good but kangana's performance in it still remains the highlight. She makes you hate her in the first half and then makes you root for her in second only to break your heart eventually in the climax

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

Kaun si Payal?? Ye wali kya?🤣

Ek dum se waqt badal gaya, jazbaat bada gaya😭

Originally posted by: FilmySpice

How is rani mehra, datto and jaya nigam (possibly the most well reviewed kangana performances) "batshit crazy wacko person"?? Lol, kangana can play gangubai in her sleep tbh, and most alia roles. A young kangana in woh lamhe and gangster itself was much better than what alia did in her younger days, even tho she did get far better written films. Alia can never play a shonali from fashion, or do a datto Or do a Bobby from JHK, the list goes on. Kangana has never faltered with her performance for films she signed after queen, and alia's last 2 films were kalank and sadak 2 where she was as bad as sara ali khan

Did you even watch Gangubai? 😆

Their fight is definitely scripted. Both are milking it.

Originally posted by: FilmySpice

Shonali had no development?? The super successful model who lost her top position and became homeless only to give herself a second chance but not able to defeat her inner demons had no development?? Kangana in first and second half of fashion is dramatically different, it's a great arc for a secondary character. And of course kangana was not an A list then, she was only 22 but she made her mark, literally overshadowed PC in fashion. And her ramp walk is iconic, the way she nailed the attitude and body language of a supermodel even tho she had no experience of pageants. And the scene of wardrobe malfunction when kangana holds her dress, gives the audience a fierce look, turns away as she slowly starts to break down and process what happened is one of her best acting moments, absolute raw emotions there. In those times, characters were definitely not as nuanced as now, and I think fashion as a whole hasn't aged that good but kangana's performance in it still remains the highlight. She makes you hate her in the first half and then makes you root for her in second only to break your heart eventually in the climax

Ya i didnt feel any of those emotions. I also dont feel you need pageant experience to ace a ramp walk. Its pretty darn easy. Neither hated her in first half nor liked in the second. Pretty sure if go out and ask people about shonali gujral, rani dhingra or tanu trivedi ppl would be like Who??!!🤔. Her movies are at the end of the day pretty forgettable.