Anatomy of hate - Page 2

Originally posted by: Flame.

I don't think anyone is asking him to stop casting his favorites or star kids. The main point that is being made here, in my opinion, is for him and his mafia-like coterie to stop snatching projects or arm twisting other filmmakers into providing good roles on a platter to his favorites - do not even ask me for examples for there are plenty of admissions that have come straight from the horse's mouth. Asking for a level playing field and the same kind of acknowledgement and validation that some films of these star kids get isn't asking for very much. Also, the fact that in this case someone was systematically trying to break Sushant's spirit through those nasty blinds and PR campaigns. Now we do not know as yet if Karan was directly involved in this, but he has certainly contributed to this toxic gossip culture in Bollywood to a huge extent and has often times made it sound like something he is very proud of indulging in with the likes of Kareena, Ranbir. He has normalized shaming people on national tv via his bullshit chat show. Asking him to stop doing his is not an unfair demand by the public especially when we know that Sushant was very affected by the things that were being said and written about him - please watch Abhishek Kapoor's interview if you want the source for this.

People are angry because a young, sensitive, and a genuinely nice man filled with talent has been snuffed out in such a horrible way. We don't yet know the official reason for his depression, but the environmental factors play a huge huge role in making it worse. No body in this world deserves to be in a workplace like Bollywood where every ounce of life and energy are sucked out of a person, and those playing gods in a culture like this deserve to be called out.

Often times, a lot of people cannot articulate their point of views well, they therefore resort to abuse or hate to make their point which unfortunately gets picked up by the person to play the victim card against whom one is trying to say something. In the sea of abuse, there have been many discussions and tweets that have sensibly addressed this issue and pointed out the problems that exist in the toxic industry of Bollywood. Unfortunately, this part is completely overlooked because phir victimhood wale articles kaise likhe jayenge?

Also like you said about breaking down Sushant with nasty blinds and PR campaigns, you yourself are admitting we don't know how responsible Karan is in this so why so much hate? Aren't we doing the same with him that were blaming others did with Sushant. If Sushant was targeted based on just rumours and hearsay isn't Karn also being blamed on basis of rumours and hearsay only. Hate on him as much as you want but the truth is he is part of the system that is toxic and unfair with or without him. Just like each and every industry in the world is toxic and unfair in its own way.You yourself have admitted we don't know anything with certainty why SSR did what he did ? why he was under depression? its another anatomy of hate. we hate those who are easier to hate. Since we don't know much and Karan is a much easier target to hate everyone is doing that. Nonetheless my post was mostly for the opinion wherein people want Karan to change and start supporting outsiders / their fav's which like i said is quiet hypocritical , i mean hating a person and then expecting him to spend his own money they way you want to.😆

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

i mean hating a person and then expecting him to spend his own money they way you want to.😆

The entitlement is too much 😆

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Sorry my knowledge about Bollywood is really limited or at least not as much as others so will really need some examples with proof's for the bold. For me most of these are just are rumours of hearsay. Kjo is blamed for snatching projects only when it comes to Alia. Has he been blamed to have done this for any one else? Not as far as i know its only Alia. So its not like he has been snatching projects from each and every outsider especially not Sushant.

Also like you said about breaking down Sushant with nasty blinds and PR campaigns, you yourself are admitting we don't know how responsible Karan is in this so why so much hate? Aren't we doing the same with him that were blaming others did with Sushant. If Sushant was targeted based on just rumours and hearsay isn't Karn also being blamed on basis of rumours and hearsay only. Hate on him as much as you want but the truth is he is part of the system that is toxic and unfair with or without him. Just like each and every industry in the world is toxic and unfair in its own way.You yourself have admitted we don't know anything with certainty why SSR did what he did ? why he was under depression? its another anatomy of hate. we hate those who are easier to hate. Since we don't know much and Karan is a much easier target to hate everyone is doing that. Nonetheless my post was mostly for the opinion wherein people want Karan to change and start supporting outsiders / their fav's which like i said is quiet hypocritical , i mean hating a person and then expecting him to spend his own money they way you want to.😆

Go back a couple of pages where you may find a thread that was made about Karan and Alia admitting openly to snatching projects or using the former's influence to get roles for which she was never considered. I frankly do not have the energy to search it up right now. Also, Karan has time and again (very famously on his own show as well) admitted to asking Adi not to cast Anushka and Ranveer because he thought they weren't star material or whatever. Why does he need to use his influence to try and change the minds of other filmmakers when it comes to casting actors in their films? Do whatever you want to do in your production house. Why go elsewhere and jeopardize someone else's career when you know your word carries weight? These are some unethically nasty things that have been done openly. That is how brazen he is. Imagine him behind closed doors. Also, how is it okay for him to snatch projects for Alia? Do others in the industry not deserve to have good roles in their resumes? What is this concentration of good roles in the hands of just one person when you aren't even getting them on your own merit?

I already explained to you the consequences of a toxic environment on a depressed mind. If your work place is as toxic as Bollywood is then things need to change in there. It's as simple as that. Whataboutery like other work places being similar doesn't work here as that in no way absolves the poisonous environment that exists here. Two wrongs do NOT make a right.

Also, yes the other big players that are similar to Karan have gone scotfree as people have targeted just him because he has literally made himself the face of this whole mafia while the others do what they have to do quietly. I wish others were dragged as well like Karan has been.

Karan can spend his money wherever the hell he wants to. He is a private person who has earned his own money. Kuch bhi karo yaar. Just don't play God and assume the power of deciding who gets to be a star here and who doesn't. Also, stop shaming people on national tv.

He needs to stop asking directors/producers to replace XYZ and cast Alia instead or his other new muh-boli-betis.

Heavens will not fall if Alia does not get a 'first look' at all the good projects happening in Bollywood.

Originally posted by: togepe30

Heavens will not fall if Alia does not get a 'first look' at all the good projects happening in Bollywood.

Her filmography is quite low.

Originally posted by: 2RsFan

The problem is him snatching projects and dirty gossiping/politics/PR. Rest is it’s his money and he can do whatever wants

I had to google to check how many movies Aloo had done and how many of them were produced by Dharma. 10 out of 14 projects including Sadak are from Dharma. So, around 72% of her movies are from Dharma. I don’t like their Gathbandhan but that’s KJo’s money. He is investing his money . Who are we to complain. Definitely, snatching movie from other actress is shitty move but 10 of the movies are his own production.

Originally posted by: slumgod..

Definitely, snatching movie from other actress is shitty move but 10 of the movies are his own production.

No the story is he became a financier or Co producer when the director or other producer gave in on the Alia request. So even those ten maybe some wouldn’t be Dharma films without Alia.

But again it’s Bollywood for 107 years

if you are asking this question, then you dont know what the issue is........ Nobody expects KJO or anyone to not cast their choice of actors in their own movies.......

its when producers or directors are pushed to kick out the ones they want and cast only the person KJO wants.........in most cases it has been Alia......

its when nepo kids gets 4-5 movies even before their debut movie is out.....

its when you spread dirty fake blinds against someone, just cause you dont want that person to do well, esp if he is an outsider and you feel he doesnt belong in bollywood while your nepo's are entitled to be there.....

its when you keep hammering fake praising articles about your favorites even if its fake .........to mislead the audience into believing that your favorite is audience's favorite as well.........

its when you forces your nepokid down the audience throat in not just 1-2 but most movies releasing, not letting others get their opportunities.....

KJO is guilty of all the above......

it doesnt matter if he produces 10 movies a year and cast Alia or Jhanvi in all of them..........but when other movie directors want other stars, let them cast who they want.......KJO single-handedly ruined bollywood for outsiders.......such a nasty person he is.......and if bollywood people are not suporting him, then i am glad.........he deserves this

Originally posted by: tapori

I find Alia good-looking, and also like her work (Highway, Udata Punjab, Dulhania series, Raazi).

I also love Ranveer's work (in all his movies).

So I don't think this is about faves not getting work.

Also, importantly, it is NOT KJo's money. Producers usually borrow money from the financiers to make movies. So technically it is financier's money.

If KJo was making a personal project it would have been okay. But when money from corporations and financiers is involved, then you can't just put your coterie people in. The audience deserves that the director be free enough to choose anyone they feel is best for the role without external pressures.

We are finding out people like KJo have been exerting pressure directly/indirectly to replace the director's pick with their chaheta/chaheti laadala/laadali. The pressure includes arm twisting, dirty games, PR tactics that include planting slanderous blinds/articles on chief contenders.

At least for me, that is where the outrage is stemming from.