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Posted: 6 years ago

OK... so per shogun's informative post (thanks!), I think it is trending towards a "semi-hit" .. much better outcome than of her last three releases flop, disaster, flop. 😳


Plus this "semi-hit" created female led opening weekend/single day record and an extremely well received lead performance... so clearly, not all is lost. 😆
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: ImagineMe



OK... so per shogun's informative post (thanks!), I think it is trending towards a "semi-hit" .. much better outcome than of her last three releases flop, disaster, flop.😳


Plus this "semi-hit" created female led opening weekend/single day record and an extremely well received lead performance... so clearly, not all is lost.😆



How much it has to make for a semi hit ?

As long as floppy doesn't happen I will celebrate 😃
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: briahna



How much it has to make for a semi hit ?

As long as floppy doesn't happen I will celebrate 😃

100 -115 cr it wil be semi hit
distibutor share around 55+crs
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Posted: 6 years ago

Refering to shogun post formula

  • Semi-Hit: Film which just recovers the distribution cost.

Anything >65CR lifetime.


With Tuesday collection it is right now ~52 CR
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: ImagineMe


Refering to shogun post formula

  • Semi-Hit: Film which just recovers the distribution cost.

Anything >65CR lifetime.


With Tuesday collection it is right now ~52 CR


Sorry I realized I made an error with the bullet points.

Full Disclosure, this is usually the rule of thumb BOI claim they follow but I have seen them do weird shit many times. So can't vouch for verdicts as long they aren't too farfetched. They are very flawed but still significantly are better than what's out there.


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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: shogun902


Sorry I realized I made an error with the bullet points.

Full Disclosure, this is usually the rule of thumb BOI claim they follow but I have seen them do weird shit many times. So can't vouch for verdicts as long they aren't too farfetched. They are very flawed but still significantly are better than what's out there.






  • Semi-Hit: Film retrieved the distribution investment and more than 10-20% of the distribution investment.

OK... so now it has to get ~80CR to be considered Semi hit. There is a good possibility it can cross that in week 2.

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Golmaal hai bhai sab golmaal hai. 😆 In real life, audience doesn't care... either they connect or don't with a movie. Only in IF, every film has to pass the BO fire. 😉

Bottomline: Many want to see a "flop" tag for this movie, come what may. 😳
Edited by ImagineMe - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: ImagineMe




Golmaal hai bhai sab golmaal hai. 😆 In real life, audience doesn't care... either they connect or don't with a movie. Only in IF, every film has to pass the BO fire. 😉

Bottomline: Many want to see a "flop" tag for this movie, come what may. 😳


Well, yeah I do agree. Casual fans don't give a shit about such terms, semantics. You like a movie, it's a "hit" regardless of what the actual outcome is and vice versa for flops.

But we aren't casual fans now, are we?! Otherwise, we wouldn't be typing on a Bollywood forum!😆

Confirmation bias is a strong human trait. Kangana's well-wishers want its success and the ones that don't like her want to crash and burn. The indifferent ones just enjoy the "debates" with some popcorn I bet.
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Posted: 6 years ago
Thanks for explaining, @Shogun :-)

When I care what a movie is telling and I like it personally then I don't care for the Boxoffice because I didn't make the movie and only spend a small amount of money.
When I care for an actress/actor, then I always would like that the movie does well because I wish her/him success...and that is - at the end of the day - the boxoffice result.
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: shogun


Hiya, let's see if I can bring some clarity. I remember the old format of BoxOfficeIndia described the theatrical verdict situation like this ---

  • All-Time BlockBuster: Film which more than triples the distributor's investment by an additional 50% or it becomes the highest grosser in at least four circuits, or it breaks the record of the current highest grosser.
  • Blockbuster: Film which triples the distributor's investment.
  • Super-Hit: Film which more than doubles the distributor's investment and earns more profit comparatively.
  • Hit: Film which doubles the distributors' investment.
  • Semi-Hit: Film retrieved the distribution investment and more than 10-20% of the distribution investment.
  • Average: Film which just recovers the distribution cost.
  • Below-Average: Film which does not even retrieve the distributors' investment and loses less than 20% of it.
  • Flop: Film which does not even retrieve the distributors' investment and loses less than 50% but more than 20% of it.
  • Disaster: Film which does not even recover the distributors' investment and loses more than 50% of it.


Now Padmavati, if I recall correctly for the domestic theatrical rights, was sold by Viacom for 110ish crores before it was tossed for a spin with all the bans and whatnot. If we follow BOI's rule of thumb then it makes sense Padmavati's theatrical earnings more than doubled/ tripled its all India distribution cost. Super hit/ BB all semantics really at the end of the day.

The box office collections don't all go to the distributor (exhibitors have a share) and they don't seem transparent about what percentage distributor get but I know in the past in multiplexes it used to 50:50 first week and 40:60 distributors:exhibitors second week.

As my son has told me I'm not the best at "mathing " 😆 so definitely check my figures but I think using these guidelines if about 50% of net collection goes to distributors and distributors have invested 65 Cr then Average verdict would need about 130 Cr net collection in India (50% of 130 =65).
Between 104 and 129cr = Below Average (50% of 104 = 80% of 65). Less than 104cr Flop

I have seen Box Office India do all kinds of twisting and turning to give a film whatever verdict they want and they seem very kind to the film so far so I seriously doubt it would need that 130 Cr to get average tag.
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Posted: 6 years ago
Nova and shogun look like twins
Good with numbers

Imagineme, how about we take small steps at a time
Even Semi hit seems out of reach at the moment , let's just stick with aiming for an average st least

So imagine do you think we are out of danger as far as floppy tag is concerned

And how much it has to earn for an average status

Right now our goal should be jaisse ya taisse avoid FLOPPY at any cost

Never thought I will have to see these days
Just last month I was abusing my calculator for zero and now this
Have to count each penny



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