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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Heisenberg17_


My point is cultural appropriation is not a thing, there's nothing wrong with people embracing and admiring each others culture, since when did this become offensive? if anything this is a good thing, but yes if you are going to argue "cultural appropriation", then you are going to be held to the same standards, that means you are also culturally appropriating western culture, there can be no assimilation without appropriation, appropriation means taking something for your own use. Also why do non-western countries adopt western culture? the Brits are long gone, so why do Indians in India continue to embrace western culture? what are they assimilating into? It's just a nonsensical argument.


In general, I don't think a person of culture 'X' emulating culture 'Y' is a problem.

I think it gets problematic when there are double standards.
- a white person with dreads is cool, but a black person is unprofessional
- a white person with a hoodie and do-rag is cool, but a black person is deemed as a gangster
- a white person wearing a bindi is cool, but a brown person wearing it is teased dothead
- a person acts all cool for eating curry, but brown people are called curry scented bitches

IMO, the cultural appropriation discourse started because some people were discriminated against/made fun of for their culture while white people doing the same were deemed cool.

Another issue I think that comes up often is when the original sentiment is lost/disrespected/disregarded

Some people in the west are obsessed with the Hindu Gods. They will get prints, tattoos, artwork etc. with holy images. But every now and then something like a doormat, underwear or liquor bottle gets a Hindu God image and people get upset. I personally as a Hindu couldn't care less. But for many its an inappropriate use.

A lot of Native American headdresses are earned based on rank and stature. So when a layperson wears it can feel disingenuous and disrespectful.

People in the subcontinent were westernized during colonization. When they went abroad they had to westernize to fit in. Today there is no colonization or need to assimilate in India. But its been happening for so many years that it would involve unlearning what has become inherent. Most people inspired by other cultures actually have no obligation to assimilate and for most, it means giving up a trend rather than unlearning the inherent.

Anyway, I do agree that appropriation can be blown out of proportion. A person may do something innocently and still get blasted for appropriating. That is unfair. People have to explain why it was OK for someone to have a Ganesha bookmark and poster but the doormat offended.

As for Hardik Pandya, he identifies with black fashion. That is fine. But I think he expressed his love in a racially insensitive manner. He could have expressed it better.
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Posted: 6 years ago
Don't watch or care for cricket but how is what they say on a talk show about their personal life relevant to their career as cricket players? Everything in every country is a national issue these days 😆
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: MoonOrchid



So by that same argument we should let talented people do their acting/sports job even if they are criminals/rapists/crooks... just because they are talented. 🤢😲
He chose to be a public figure, he chose to go on Karan's show. He is responsible for his words.


Did you really compare what happened in KwK with criminals/rapists/crooks?!?!?!?!

I don't even know what to say...

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Jaitreya23

Hardik Pandya came across as an obnoxious brat. His comment that he checks out how they move and that he had not left even cheer leaders is disgusting and creepy. Having sex and boosting about it on public platform are two different things. He even humiliated his parents by saying that he would share with them that he had sex that day. This is definitely creepy and not normal.


Having Sex is his personal and private need, absolutely not required to make it public and flaunt it. Worse is he does not leave his colleagues too. All that cheap locker room talk 🤢 All the while it appears as if all Pandya does is to get a girl for his sexual need. His cricket takes a back seat.
In his attempt to appear as a cool dude he, comes across as sex addict.

Rahul was okay, why is he getting dragged?

The only one to gain is KJo, whose KWK got publicity.


Bold: TO YOU!!!!!!
Not normal to you! I don't see any thing wrongg with what he said or the fact that he shares it with his parents. I find it admirable that the line of communication is so open that he can talk about that with his parents.
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Posted: 6 years ago
Although I agree that both Rahul and Hardik especially were plain stupid on the show but why give them a notice! Isn't things that they do offfield none of BCCI's business?!
Or perhaps it's because they represent the Indian team and bcci are being cautious!
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Posted: 6 years ago
Karan's very stupid and cheap questions and hardiks equally cheap reply got him into trouble,now he will be cautious what he speaks,good for him
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: LeSortLeVeut


Bold: TO YOU!!!!!!
Not normal to you! I don't see any thing wrongg with what he said or the fact that he shares it with his parents. I find it admirable that the line of communication is so open that he can talk about that with his parents.


Not normal for anyone with normal approach. It is outrageous. What is the need inform his parents that he had sex?

Even Karan said that.

Discussions or clarifications with parents about issues or myths or doubts about sex is ok but boasting, bragging or showing off is not. This is what Pandya was doing and yes worse is pointing off to parents the girls you had sex with is definitely not cool.

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Posted: 6 years ago
Don't know if it has been posted before but THIS is the difference between jerks and gentlemen!
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Jaitreya23


Not normal for anyone with normal approach. It is outrageous. What is the need inform his parents that he had sex?

Even Karan said that.

Discussions or clarifications with parents about issues or myths or doubts about sex is ok but boasting, bragging or showing off is not. This is what Pandya was doing and yes worse is pointing off to parents the girls you had sex with is definitely not cool.


So you decide what normality is? Did he say he goes into detail on what he does with them? No!
He pointed who he had been with. What's sooo taboo about that to the point you can't talk about it with your parents. These people brought you up, arent they the best people to whom you can confide and talk about your life?

But maybe it's cultural. I'm not indian, and maybe that is why I'm not understanding your point of view.
Here, what he did is not abnormal.
Dating, seeing, relationships are not a taboo topic with your parents.

To be honest I'm a bit gobsmacked. For example, even though my mom is quite conservative, my brothers have no qualms about talking about who they have been with with her...
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: LeSortLeVeut


So you decide what normality is? Did he say he goes into detail on what he does with them? No!
He pointed who he had been with. What's sooo taboo about that to the point you can't talk about it with your parents. These people brought you up, arent they the best people to whom you can confide and talk about your life?

But maybe it's cultural. I'm not indian, and maybe that is why I'm not understanding your point of view.
Here, what he did is not abnormal.
Dating, seeing, relationships are not a taboo topic with your parents.

To be honest I'm a bit gobsmacked. For example, even though my mom is quite conservative, my brothers have no qualms about talking about who they have been with with her...


They are taboo topics in India. But, I honestly thought things were changing with the younger generation. Clearly not.

The racial/misogyny bit is still understandable as different people view things differently (I have made my views clear on this), but I have no idea why he is being bashed for something that was strictly between him and his parents. If they don't have a problem, why do the others care?

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