The Actresses Roundtable 2018 - Page 9

Originally posted by: astha36

Let me give some examples -

articulate.. I think Kangana wasn't very articulate earlier but she was the best in Fashion.

intelligent - Rani doesn't seem intelligent but she's a good actor.

smart - Kareena is not smart, but she's one of the best we have.

So, doesn't seem to me like they need to be these people in real life to play onscreen characters well.

Originally posted by: TheSupergirl

Which is why i am saying education should be made compulsory for everyone. Most girls do not get education, so awareness should be increased and literacy rate has increased. Yeh sab hona chahiye, as clearly getting men hanged or punished is not helping.

If awareness is increased, women can protect themselves and avoid such a situation, not always of course but whenever possible. There is no fool proof solution for anything. If there was, there would no rapes or crimes against women. But atleast, if not the little girls who unfortunately suffer, young women can be saved if they can help themselves.

And simultaneously laws should be strengthened and movts like MeToo should continue. But for a change to come because of these movts and laws, it takes TIME. It ain't easy.

Women should be taught to be self sufficient is my point. Not that they have no right to complain if they get harrassed, God alone knows where u got that from. Bad comprehension skills i see.

Why shouldn't i reply, IF pe bolne se kuch nahi hota, that really doesnt mean i shouldn't reply to u.

Originally posted by: Thug-Leader

Kangu has always been articulate and smart, her problem is her big fat ego.


Rani is lucky she got married to a big shot, or else I doubt she would have doing well post her failures in mid 00s.


Kareena isn't one of the best we have, and we can see her flaws when portraying the characters, repeating same thing again and again.




Anyways I don't even know why I am arguing on this, I mean every human being has to be smart.
I mean when those who are sidelined as special people are so smart and intelligent, why cant the so called normal people at least get themselves to be smart, mature and well read.

Originally posted by: astha36

Let me give some examples -

articulate.. I think Kangana wasn't very articulate earlier but she was the best in Fashion.

intelligent - Rani doesn't seem intelligent but she's a good actor.

smart - Kareena is not smart, but she's one of the best we have.

So, doesn't seem to me like they need to be these people in real life to play onscreen characters well.

Originally posted by: FilmiDhun

Oh is it?? Because she said she knew it would do well and that it was a commercial film. How was she sure badhaai ho would do well?

Originally posted by: astha36

Look I'm not saying girls should get self defense classes or be more aware. Or become self sufficient. But, one, the way Rani said this point was clearly in a way that she said instead of calling out men and putting all the blame on them, let's get the women to do these things. Fight back, give them a slap then and there... I mean what if someone doesn't give a slap then and there? She spoke in a way that she would blame them if they didn't do it. That's wrong.

And two, it should be a choice for girls to get self defense training or learn to fight. I mean I'm not against it getting institutionalised but it's like something wrong has happened to them and people are ready with a list of stuff that the victims can/could do to avoid this happening to them in future. These steps are fine as additive steps but the actions that need to be taken prominently are making better laws and making the workplace safer for all. Those laws, that system itself, isn't in place right now.

When we're thinking of solutions, we can't be shortsighted about it, especially while talking on a public platform. And like I said, people are doing whatever they can to be safe anyway. If we can talk about focusing to make our women stronger physically, then we can talk about making our men better mentally too. Both of those things will take time anyway.

Originally posted by: TheSupergirl

Except that men changing their mentality will take a longer time than women being made assertive n strong. Actually this whole debate was wrt to the metoo movt n sexual harrassment at work n other places. For some men, this thing is normal and its very difficult to change their mentality. Of course introducing educational reforms n all is easier said than done but it can be done. And in a shorter while than it takes a rape or sexual harrassment victim to get justice. Complaining n protests are not helping, rapists n predators are everywhere waiting for their next victim and it will take a while until that changes. And since its the victim that only suffers, it only makes sense that he/she is equipped to avoid such a situation, as much as possible.

I completely agree we should focus on changing men's mentalities but what in the interim? Tomorrow if someone makes a sexual pass at u, u should be well equipped to shut the person up. To handle it, u can't be weak and be sorry for urself forever and expect men around u to change. That was my point. Also, if a man is taught a fitting lesson by a potential victim he may not do it to others, who knows.

I misunderstood Rani's point n i cleared it, if a woman is sexually harrassed in no way is she at fault. Its a rather insensitive n stupid statement.

Originally posted by: Chameli_billi

I had to switch this off midway because I am literally so shocked by Rani's behavior. She was such a biatch in this interview.The way she said she is a producer's daughter and director's wife was so stuck up. There are better ways to put your point across. Has she always been this way? She used to be so polite before. Wow... I can totally believe all the gossip about her now. Woman, get the f**k outta here. I watched your raja ki ayegi barat the other day. What a horrible movie that was. Have you forgotten your humble beginnings? And why was everyone so scared of her? I didn't realize she was this powerful. I couldn't watch this. She really turned me off.