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Posted: 7 years ago
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NB- on Border it wasn't about Ind and Pak. It was about fact tha Indian Army won the war with negligible causality not the way it was portrayed in the movie. Again, my point was about authenticity and here in case of an event which actually did take place unlike in Padmavati's case where there is NO fact supporting her existence. She is a fictional character , neither a Goddess or anything.
Tell me was there a vote taken of all Rajputs proclaiming her a Goddess. Was she revered before SLB's movie. Is there a fund created by Rajputs which spends money on yearly Padmavati celebrations. Has Govt. recognized her as a "faith".
Now if tomorrow people say Ram Rahim is God and don't mock him, will it be fair. Did we not have enough of this blind bhakti recently?

Padmavati is a movie. All movies come with disclaimer mentioning that content shouldn't be taken as fact. It ran for movies like Neerja too. Why does SLB and DP need to give further proof of it being fictional when the subject is taken from a poem. I have not seen either of them stating that it is fact-by-fact film. It's a feature film with fictional characters like most historicals.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: angrybread


That is the point i wanted to make ...would it be accpetable for rajputs if bold is shown without distorting the facts or do they believe in any other history where he defeated and killed khilji 😆

Aapke wale 13th century mei jeet gaye the iss baat pe khushi toh zaroor hogi aapko. Alag se Celebration thread toh banta hai iss par. Par agar saari khushiya yehi zahir kar logi toh Celebration thread ka charm hi chali jayega.😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Parvati..

Aapke wale 13th century mei jeet gaye the iss baat pe khushi toh zaroor hogi aapko. Alag se Celebration thread toh banta hai iss par. Par agar saari khushiya yehi zahir kar logi toh Celebration thread ka charm hi chali jayega.😆


Mere waale kaun ? Kaash ki 13th century me born hoti to parvati ke saamne celbration thread zaroor banati IF par 😆 Waise mera ticket nahi aaya abhi tak ...wada karke poora karna chahiye 😛
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Posted: 7 years ago
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This is protesting before cheer haran happens of a woman's respect from their community. Baaki ki aurtein are fair game to be disrespected and beaten up

Karni Sena State Prez Mahipal targets Dipika Padukone; threatens to cut off her nose for her comments on #padmavatirelease
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Posted: 7 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: ~*sindhu*~

This is protesting before cheer haran happens of a woman's respect from their community. Baaki ki aurtein are fair game to be disrespected and beaten up

Karni Sena State Prez Mahipal targets Dipika Padukone; threatens to cut off her nose for her comments on #padmavatirelease



@bold- Exactly. Where is the outrage over that BJP MP saying women in filmmakers' families change husbands everyday so would not understand the sacrifice of Rani Padmavati? All I see is men trying to dictate how people should feel about issues that don't affect them.

Cut off her nose- what the f**k. These people should be arrested. Do people really support this kind of hooliganism?

Some people should stop acting like they're custodians of this country and everyone else wants to destroy it. Delusion ki had hoti hai.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: charminggenie

NB- on Border it wasn't about Ind and Pak. It was about fact tha Indian Army won the war with negligible causality not the way it was portrayed in the movie. Again, my point was about authenticity and here in case of an event which actually did take place unlike in Padmavati's case where there is NO fact supporting her existence. She is a fictional character , neither a Goddess or anything.

Tell me was there a vote taken of all Rajputs proclaiming her a Goddess. Was she revered before SLB's movie. Is there a fund created by Rajputs which spends money on yearly Padmavati celebrations. Has Govt. recognized her as a "faith".
Now if tomorrow people say Ram Rahim is God and don't mock him, will it be fair. Did we not have enough of this blind bhakti recently?

Padmavati is a movie. All movies come with disclaimer mentioning that content shouldn't be taken as fact. It ran for movies like Neerja too. Why does SLB and DP need to give further proof of it being fictional when the subject is taken from a poem. I have not seen either of them stating that it is fact-by-fact film. It's a feature film with fictional characters like most historicals.


is it meant for me? I'm NP 😳

in case of Border cinematic liberties in portraying characters as heroes and earning sympathetic feelings for them took precedence over historical accuracy... it was meant to evoke strong feelings amongst the masses... and un-intentionally when SLB messed with ghoomar song and then the rumor abt dream sequence that also evoked strong feelings in the masses except not the ones SLB may have wanted (or may have wanted all along, who knows)...

If padmavati is not an historical figure then why are Deepika & SLB fooling people by portraying Padmavati as some historically authentic movie based on real character... they could simply say that the movie is completely fictional and end all controversies... but then what abt those Rajputs who dont agree with Padmini being a fictional person... they will still have a reason to complain...

before ram rahim was arrested he was indeed treated as God by some of his followers... even the famous comedian Kiku sharda had to spend a night in jail just for mimicking ram rahim or something like that (i'm not sure)...anyways the point is... I've read that rajputs have claimed that she is given a same status as a devi in that region... why would they need a voting process unless someone claimed or protested against her stature in rajput community...till now i don't think anyone has challenged that stature...

even if SLB & deepika or other consider her fictional, the rajputs don't...and its a known fact that lots of historical scriptures have been destroyed and altered during various invasions... but the one method of preserving history that could not be destroyed was telling the story through folklores... that is how Rajputs may have preserved some of their history abt Padmavati IDK ... is there indeed a 100% proof that no jauhar happened in chittor? and no padmini existed?

even the movie neerja received some objections from neerja's family and some crew members at that time regarding the historical accuracy...but since they were only handful of people their voices died soon...also because they protested after the movie was released...waise... even if its indeed a totally fictional movie then SLB should just issue an official statement abt the same and end this matter right now..

omg ...i'm writing essays again... i'll try to be more concise now 😳😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: ~*sindhu*~

This is protesting before cheer haran happens of a woman's respect from their community. Baaki ki aurtein are fair game to be disrespected and beaten up

Karni Sena State Prez Mahipal targets Dipika Padukone; threatens to cut off her nose for her comments on #padmavatirelease


I don't think anyone here is supporting violence...

and karni sena is not the the only group who's protesting and neither they are their sole representatives... there are other rajput gharanas as well whose people, including women, are protesting peacefully.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: angrybread


Mere waale kaun ? Kaash ki 13th century me born hoti to parvati ke saamne celbration thread zaroor banati IF par 😆 Waise mera ticket nahi aaya abhi tak ...wada karke poora karna chahiye 😛

I can't send you to a place where even chickens would need burka to save their izzat.
Nah , AB nah
Asia zulm mei apne dushmano pe bhi na karu
You are toh my friend.
Tickets canceled.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: Heisenberg17.

Padmini is not mentioned by anyone before Jayasi wrote his poem Padmavat. Amir Khusrau, who was a contemporary of Khilji, is the earliest source we have for the invasion of Chittorgarh, he mentions no Padmini. In a nutshell, Padmini is neither mentioned in the Rajput historical records, nor the Muslim records, before Jayasi.

After Jayasi composed his epic poem, there were many subsequent adaptations, the Rajputs also adapted it, one famous version of the tale known as Hemratan's Gora Badal Padmini Chaupai, presented the tale as history, and became the basis of present day folklore.


can it be possible that Amir khusro may have intentionally avoided mentioning about padmavati... afterall historians and poets were known to be under heavy influence of their patrons... ?

how did jayasi invent padmini? can he not have heard a rajput folklore about padmini and based her composition on that folklore?


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Parvati..

I can't send you to a place where even chickens would need burka to save their izzat.
Nah , AB nah
Asia zulm mei apne dushmano pe bhi na karu
You are toh my friend.
Tickets canceled.


Khushi ke aansoo 😭
baqi saare happy emos 😆

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