Is it fair to say BW is nepotistic: DNA+trade analysts' laughable take

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Is it fair to say that Bollywood is nepotistic?

HARSHADA REGE | UPALA KBR | Fri, 5 May 2017-06:00am , Mumbai , DNA

DNA After Hrs analyses if the charge is fair or not

Of late, there have been several conversations about the film industry being nepotistic. While it is true that many actors and actresses have actor parents or filmmaker dads, that could have more to do with children following in their parents' careers than the industry insiders trying to keep the business "within the family".

Distributor Akshaye Rathi says, "What you call nepotism in Bollywood is there in all industries " from corporate to sports. It happens across all sectors. Are you saying that Rohan Murthy, the son of Narayan Murthy should not inherit Infosys, despite being brilliant in his work, just because he is his father's son? It's such a ridiculous notion that people have and just because it is the entertainment industry, it becomes an easy target for such debates. I am a kid who has grown up in the entertainment industry and I am the fourth generation in my family of film distributors and exhibitors. I could have gone into another profession but I have been going to the office since I was a three-year-old kid, seeing how things work and it is virtually ingrained in my brain by now. So, I am obviously at an advantage because I literally grew up seeing all this compared to somebody who may be a rank outsider and that's completely fine."

The door to the film-industry-is-nepotistic debate was opened by Kangana Ranaut on a tv show. We did a quick review of how many film kids have entered the movie business in recent years. And we found that the outsiders outnumber the filmy bachchas for now.

Film critic Rajeev Masand explains why that has happened, "In recent years, the stakes have become much higher. Producers and studios can't afford to cast star kids just because they're so-and-so's son or daughter. That alone is not enough, as, frankly, it once used to be. Sure the star kids still often gets first dibs on new projects but producers are looking for a newcomer with talent and charisma and looks. Just a famous surname won't sell tickets. As a result of this shift, there have been several talented outsiders in recent years who made it past the gate and seem like they're here to stay."

Trade analyst Taran Adarsh explains, "Nepotism helps but eventually, success, work, how talented you are and what numbers your film delivers is what matters."

Queen is an outsider!

Anil Kapoor's daughter Sonam Kapoor made her debut on the same day as Deepika Padukone. And if the industry was indeed biased towards their own, how do you explain Deepika Padukone being the reigning queen of Bollywood. Every top actress in every decade has been a non-industry girl, except for Kareena Kapoor Khan. Hema, Madhuri, Sridevi. Katrina. And now, Deepika.

Akshaye agrees, "Absolutely. I think Madhuri Dixit is the biggest example of how successful a non-industry girl can be. But you must remember that for every decade or year while you have such successful outsiders like a Shah Rukh coming in, you also have a Salman and Aamir Khan who come from the film industry."

It all adds up...

Yes, the industry gives breaks to their own. But then, no one asks Mukesh Ambani how many of his relatives or friends or their children are employed by Reliance group of companies? If you care to see, you will find that if there is a Varun Dhawan who gets a big break, there is a Sidharth Malhotra, too, in the same film. For every Sooraj Pancholi in the industry, there is a Sushant Singh Rajput. If an Aditya Roy Kapur gets a break, so does Ayushmann Khurrana. Akshaye feels, "This outsiders vs insiders (Bollywood kids) debate is a very overrated notion. When Prithviraj Kapoor first came in, he was an outsider, then his children Raj Kapoor and his sons, Rishi, Randhir and Rajiv became insiders. When Shah Rukh Khan first came in, he was an outsider, but now his son Aryan will be a Bollywood kid if he wants to enter the film industry. There are so many insiders who don't do well like Harman Baweja and Jackky Bhagnani, who have not lived up to their legacies. The lines get blurred between the outsiders and insiders."

Stakes are too high

Statistics show that if Arjun Kapoor gets launched by Aditya Chopra, so does Ranveer Singh. If Sajid Nadiadwala launched Tiger Shroff with fanfare, he did the same with Kriti Sanon, who has no filmi connection, in the same film. Today, outsider Ranveer Singh is in the same position as insider Ranbir Kapoor, who comes from three generations of actors. If Ranveer is getting the same opportunities as Ranbir, do we need to talk about nepotism?

Masand makes a valid point, "Ranveer is as popular as Ranbir. He's a great example of how Bollywood throws open its doors and rolls out the red carpet for an actor who can deliver the goods. In just a few years, Ranveer has made it to the upper echelons of the industry and he's in a position to cherrypick the films and roles he wants to do. Nepotism " and partiality to star kids " might exist at the very early stages, but the stakes are too high today. The film industry is famously profit-focused. They'll embrace a donkey if he sells tickets. And you could be the most famous star kid in the country and they'll drop you like a hot potato if you can't put bums on seats. It sounds cruel, but it's true. And it's exactly as it should be. Being the son of a big name star can only get your foot into the door. It might help you get your first film. But if you can't act, and can't sell tickets, it's goodbye."

Do the math

For every Alia Bhatt and Shraddha Kapoor, there is a Parineeti Chopra and an Anushka Sharma. Kareena Kapoor Khan is to the manor-born, but Priyanka Chopra and Katrina Kaif haven't fared too badly. If Sunil Shetty's Athiya Shetty is one-film-old, so is Disha Patani, minus an actor daddy. Jacqueline Fernandez, Ileana d'Cruz and Esha Gupta have all worked with Akshay Kumar. One would say these out-of-towners have done well for themselves.

Rajeev adds, "Star daughters have it harder than star sons. To be fair, film families have tried to hold back their daughters from working in the movies. It's famously true of the Kapoors, until Karisma and Kareena broke the rules. Dharmendra was famously unhappy when Esha decided she wanted to act. Ahaana was not encouraged to work in the movies. As a result, the industry has had to look elsewhere for female actors " namely, beauty pageants, the ramp, the South film industry, etc. For every Kareena or Sonam or Sonakshi who has succeeded, there is a Juhi (Raj) Babbar, a Tina (Govinda) Ahuja, a Meghaa Chatterjee (Moushmi's daughter), and more that have tried and failed."

Outsiders have ruled

Not just today, since time memorial, all the top actors of the country have been outsiders. So let's not give the movie industry a bad name. Dilip Kumar and Dev Anand existed at the same time as Raj Kapoor, and gave him tough competition. Sunil Dutt and Rajendra Kumar ruled the roost despite not being star kids. Rajesh Khanna had zero filmi relatives and no one has seen the kind of stardom he did. Raj Kapoor's son Rishi never reached the heights of stardom that writer Harivanshrai Bachchan's son Amitabh Bachchan did. The families of Shah Rukh Khan and Akshay Kumar and they are at the top for over 25 years. A time in which many film kids have come and gone.

Taran sums it up, "I think it's as easy or hard for both actors and actresses. People look for newcomers depending on the script. Sometimes the script may need a new heroine like Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi which had a big star like Shah Rukh Khan and Anushka's debut film as a newcomer. And if the opportunity demands, why not? I feel an actor coming from a film background may have an easy access to films, but getting a film is different and something they have to work hard for. In today's times, it's not easy for anyone, both for the filmi kids and rank outsiders, to get a break into films because there are so many hopefuls and only about 20 top producers. With millions of outsiders in the fray, you have to be just plain lucky to get a good project which showcases your talent, followed by lots of hard work."

Masand has the last word, "In a nutshell, of course, nepotism does exist. It exists in every industry and in every business. But in Bollywood, I would say, it exists to the extent that second-generation hopefuls get a foot in the door easier than outsiders. They have the contacts so they are considered for top projects before outsiders. Often, they land their debut films easier than a talented outsider might, but gone are the days when a star son could deliver eight flops and still get work. Nobody has the patience for that anymore. Not the audience, not the industry, and certainly not those who're funding these projects."


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yes to a large extent
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Bollywood should wake up and smell the coffee. Getting their pet journos like DNA, Masand to endorse them will not save them as an industry which is on a decline. To make more Bahubalis you dont just need directors but also actors that suit the part. Find such actors without bothering about connections. If all talent in India was just available within the industry it wouldnt be declining.
I think one of the biggest reason for fall of BW in the recent years is their inability to listen to what the public says and instead depending on people like Masand or trade analysts like Taran Adarsh.
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And the example given about heroines..nepotism has worsened from the time Deepika started her career. Lets check again after a couple of years how many outsiders are 'queens'.
Also if we talk about the halat of actresses-paid much less than even less popular and less experienced colleagues, dependent on the heroes to get cast in films-latest example being TOH is there anything to be proud about?
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While I agree with everything written in the article, I think the main cause for the heartburn is that sometimes(many a times) the more talented "outsider" loses out movies to a less talented "starkid" - as has been happening since ever.

I have no issues against starkids as long as they deliver, and as long as they are not in every other movie.. I like to see different faces, rather than the same mix and match handful of actors in every other movie.

This is where I think outsiders deserve chance just to see new face. Afterall, the more diverse an industry is, the more quality it breeds... Flux of outsiders as well as nepotistic kids is IMO good, because they all have something of their own to bring in... but more so the outsiders. What I find irritating is to see same face, especially starkid, getting every other mainstream movie within a short span of time.


Ultimately, yes, there's equal number of starkids and outsiders in our industry, I have even made a list of films involving outsiders and starkids a month ago on a thread, they're all getting equal opportunities.. and without proving one's mettle, they wouldn't sustain for long.(but here's another reason for heartburn again, if you are starkid - you're given chances, atleast one chance until you perish for good, whereas an outsider even if his caliber was a notch above starkid wouldn't even get one movie)



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^^ The chances that outsiders get to prove oneself are too less in number
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Originally posted by: TheRager

And the example given about heroines..nepotism has worsened from the time Deepika started her career. Lets check again after a couple of years how many outsiders are 'queens'.

Also if we talk about the halat of actresses-paid much less than even less popular and less experienced colleagues, dependent on the heroes to get cast in films-latest example being TOH is there anything to be proud about?


I couldn't post pictures...but I started laughing when I saw this:

"Kareena Kapoor Khan is to the manor-born, but Priyanka Chopra and Katrina Kaif haven't fared too badly."

DNA also believes Kareena owned the 90's and Deepika the 2000's. 😕😆😆

This article is so heavily biased towards star kids and ignorant of the actual problem. Everyone knows and understands that BW is profit-based and that you'll get chances as long as you bring in the revenue. But if you as a star kid get 95% of the reputable projects and 10 films, and everyone else gets 1-2 films, you are bound to succeed at some point.

Akshaye Rathi is an idiot. He inherited his family's own business, I am assuming. Ambani kids are going to inherit their own father's Reliance...not Tata because they're Mukesh Ambani's kids. But BW is not a one family owned business. It's a bunch of players. If Alia inherits Vishesh Films and runs that, it's different from Alia getting a million opportunities.
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Originally posted by: TheRager

Bollywood should wake up and smell the coffee. Getting their pet journos like DNA, Masand to endorse them will not save them as an industry which is on a decline. To make more Bahubalis you dont just need directors but also actors that suit the part. Find such actors without bothering about connections. If all talent in India was just available within the industry it wouldnt be declining.

I think one of the biggest reason for fall of BW in the recent years is their inability to listen to what the public says and instead depending on people like Masand or trade analysts like Taran Adarsh.



Yep.

Bollywood is not "breaking barriers" contrary to the popular belief. In fact, it's becoming more niche because filmmakers are following European model (French, Italian especially) of the 50s - 70s. The talented filmmakers are busy making slice of life or so called "thought provoking" movies, which fine for an industry that isn't as money-oriented as Bollywood, but for the 3rd biggest film industry in the world? Nah.

Bollywood needs more movies like Bahubali--as an institution--over movies like Dear Zindagi (I loved it, but let's be honest here - it's not going to create jobs and increase the prospects as much as a Bahubali does). Whether it's the Mahabharata, Ramayana, Shiva trilogy, or personal journey movies of Bheesma, Karna, Krishna, Indrajeet, Ravana, etc., it's high time Bollywood stopped being complacent and ventured uncharted territories.

That's only possible if you have the most talented people around.
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There is a difference between a distributor being 4th generation and a starkid being given a part in a multi crore movie without an audition. In the former case, if the business goes bust it is a family business and we don't get to see their ugly mug and lack of talent. In the case of an actor, we get to lose out on good films and watch people who are ugly and /or cannot act.
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Originally posted by: turqoisedress


I couldn't post pictures...but I started laughing when I saw this:

"Kareena Kapoor Khan is to the manor-born, but Priyanka Chopra and Katrina Kaif haven't fared too badly."

DNA also believes Kareena owned the 90's and Deepika the 2000's. 😕😆😆

This article is so heavily biased towards star kids and ignorant of the actual problem. Everyone knows and understands that BW is profit-based and that you'll get chances as long as you bring in the revenue. But if you as a star kid get 95% of the reputable projects and 10 films, and everyone else gets 1-2 films, you are bound to succeed at some point.

Akshaye Rathi is an idiot. He inherited his family's own business, I am assuming. Ambani kids are going to inherit their own father's Reliance...not Tata because they're Mukesh Ambani's kids. But BW is not a one family owned business. It's a bunch of players. If Alia inherits Vishesh Films and runs that, it's different from Alia getting a million opportunities.

Bingo! Till David Dhawan is directing his son or Rakesh Roshan his you can compare it to a family run venture. But now it is you scratch your my back and I scratch yours which is terrible. Worse is the people like Masand legitimizing it.

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