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Posted: 8 years ago
Phenomenal Monday - Bahubali 2 (Hindi) Is ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER
Monday 01 May 2017 16.30 IST
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Bahubali 2 - The Conclusion (Hindi) is set to achieve its biggest feat till yet on Monday. There are no words to describe what is happening in the Hindi markets on Monday. It is certain already that it will be the highest Monday off all time with collections surpassing 30 crore nett but the big question is by how far it will surpass that figure. What has gone on so far on Monday suggests it may even challenge its Friday number but surely the evening and night shows can't do what they did on Friday as it is a working day tomorrow. It is a partial holiday for Labour Day today but that should hardly be making the film put up this sort of record Monday.

The film is an ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER and its probably the first time that a film has got the highest classification in less than four days. The collections in North (Delhi city and Punjab) are so phenomenal on Monday that it is hard to think that other areas like Mumbai and Central will stop this film becoming the highest grossing film in Hindi of all time. If it was going to be let down it was going to be Delhi city and Punjab due to the South factor. Dangal in Hindi grossed 374 crore nett and its looking very much that this total is going to be chased down and maybe even go over 400 crore nett.

Bahubali 2 - The Conclusion (Hindi) has set an opening day record, opening weekend record, is certain to set a week record and almost certain to set a lifetime record. Now the wait is where Monday will land, at little above 30 crore nett or the unthinkable and around 40 crore nett. It will be known in a few hours from now.

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Posted: 8 years ago

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I have a different opinion on Devasena. I think she was reckless and impulsive in some scenes. She could have handled the confrontation with Shivagami in a better way. She's not a commoner. She's a princess and i think she missed the lesson of diplomacy taught to royal kids.
Shivagami is the rajmata of a powerful kingdom so we can only imagine how big her ego would be. Devasena was right in everything that she did and said but there's a way of saying things. Even poison tastes good with honey. When we try to convince someone, we use a soft tone and measure our words. We don't want to offend them.

What happened with Devasena is that only her tone and her arrogance were noted and her words were dismissed. The only place that she spoke well was when she was chained.
So for all her strength and courage, she was pretty hotheaded and rash.

Draupadi also had the same problem. There was not a single humble bone in her body.


Whatever impression Sivagami made on Devasana had been bad from the beginning. The guy who brought the proposal talked as if Mahishmati was doing a favour on Devasena's kingdom by choosing her. The proposal reeked of arrogance. Later Sivagami asked to imprison Devasena for rejecting the proposal. Yes rejection was harsh, but she tries apologizing, only to find out that mommy had already promised his dearest son that Devasena would marry him. Which makes no sense whatsoever given how Devasana didn't even give her consent. Not once did Sivagami try to make sense of the entire situation or the relationship between Deva and Baahu. She directly snatched the throne from him but none of these two said a word. All Devasena saw was a mother who unfairly ripped his son off his duties for no mistake of his. How else was Devasena supposed to react. Being sickly sweet for no mistake of hers? And according to me she was right in getting pissed off, when Bhalla relieves his brother from his duty. Everybody from the family treating them like shit and how else would she react. It was Sivagami's presence of mind which went for a toss.If Sivagami couldn't trust or understand her own son who dealt with her with utmost patience and love, don't think Devasena's pleas would have made any difference. Good that she sunao-ed her on behalf of the audience.
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^^ I was discussing this with GredandForge and she mentioned how its important to differentiate which behavior of hers was actually objectionable and what was perceived as arrogance because of underlying sexism/misogyny. And I think that is the tough part. Cos a lot of stuff she said, if the same was being said by Baahubali, it would have been perceived as swag or confidence. Given how obedient and patient he was in general, her 'arrogance' was required to balance it out. And right from her first introduction to Sivagami from that letter, Devasena hasn't had a pretty picture of any of them to begin with. So I dont really fault her anger even if it came across as inappropriate in a few occasions. And the fact that her husband dint really mind any of it (whether he agrees with it or not) is IMO, the most amazing part of the film. And that is precisely what makes him immensely attractive. The fact that he never stopped her from speaking her mind and admired her feisty nature makes him the MAN. More than the fact that he was this amazing warrior 😆


This article kinda sums it out (credit to GredandForge)-

Baahubali 2- Rajamouli redeems himself with Devasena, female lead whose navel is not important



Baahubali: The Beginning quickly became the new standard for filmmaking soon after its release. Till that point, south Indian films were known outside the five states only when they won awards or were controversial in some way. The Baahubali juggernaut, on the other hand, managed to capture the imagination of audiences across the country.

However, the film also came under heavy criticism for its problematic portrayal of love and romance. SS Rajamouli, the director, may not have seen this coming - after all, he'd created what he believed were three strong female characters. A queen mother (Sivagami) who holds the reins of the kingdom, an enslaved and majestic queen (Devasena) and a warrior who is entrusted with the mission of freeing the enslaved queen (Avantika).

All three female characters were shown to be powerful, with Sivagami even slaying enemies while carrying a baby in one hand. However, the film fell back on a common trope in Indian cinema to show a man winning a woman's heart - by mansplaining womanhood. A playful Shivudu dodges an angry Avantika's sword as she tries to punish him for painting tattoos on her body without her knowledge. And then, he rips apart her clothes and uses berries to paint her eyes and lips...thereby turning her into the "woman" who was hidden beneath the warrior. Big surprise, Avantika decides to reward him for this appalling intrusion by falling for him.

Not only that, Avantika is sidelined from her own mission as Shivudu appropriates it because she now "belongs" to him. However grand a film the first Baahubali was, it remained disappointing when it came to its portrayal of women. Avantika was mercilessly objectified by the camera's gaze, as it focused on every part of her body. A completely unnecessary "item" number in the second half didn't help either.

Watching Baahubali: The Conclusion, though, one cannot help but think that Rajamouli has considered the criticism that the first film generated seriously. Devasena, played by the gorgeous and regal Anushka Shetty, is head and shoulders above Avantika in terms of characterization. Though the princess of a small kingdom, Devasena is a woman with pride. And interestingly, she is never castigated for a moment for this. Rather, Sivagami tells her that "ahankaram" is "alankaaram" for the family, meaning "arrogance" is a "decoration".

Devasena's introduction scene is similar to that of Avantika's from the first film. Her life in danger, Devasena wields a sword to put an end to enemies. And the watching Amarendra falls for her grace and nimble skills. The moment is the same, but where Avantika became Shivudu's plaything, Devasena remains a woman with a mind of her own. The camera understands this, too. Devasena's navel is of no importance whatsoever.

Even though she never manages to win a contest with Amarendra, Devasena is not projected as his inferior. In fact, the former goes to great lengths to win her regard. When Sivagami's messenger tells Devasena that she should be overjoyed that such a wealthy kingdom wants her as bride, Devasena doesn't hesitate to turn down the offer. You can see her face turn steely with rage as the messenger reads out Sivagami's high-handed proposal. Why should I marry a man without knowing anything about him other than his wealth, Devasena asks.

Later, when Amarendra tells her than Sivagami has asked him to capture her and take her to Mahishmati, Devasena is angered. Both of them are under the wrong impression that Sivagami wants Devasena to be Amarendra's bride but still, even though Devasena is already attracted to Amarendra and knows his real identity, Sivagami's attempt to strip her off her agency annoys her to no end.

It's at this point that Rajamouli breaks away from the usual my-mummy-greatest stance that most heroes in Indian cinema adopt. Amarendra grows in our eyes as a man worthy of becoming an emperor because he is impeccably just - he's even able to see through his adoptive mother's wrong. Hallelujah!

Amarendra promises to stand by Devasena and doesn't attempt to control her as she fires back at Sivagami when the latter orders her to marry Bhallaladeva. There's none of that "Control your tongue, you are a woman!" attitude in Amarendra which is, frankly, more attractive than that awesome body he has. Sivagami tries to do a Kunti but Amarendra is thankfully not Arjuna to share his "prize" just because mummy said so.

Devasena, however, is Draupadi in temperament. Don't you know the dharma of a kshatriya, Devasena asks Sivagami. Later, too, she has a face-off with the queen mother, demanding that Amarendra become the rightful king of Mahishmati. Devasena's ambition, usually given the taint of "selfishness" in Indian cinema, is celebrated as justice in the film. The "good wife" trope is about being patient, all sacrificing, and obedient to elders. Devasena is the opposite of all of this and she's Amarendra's beloved all the more for it.

Though married to a man with superhuman abilities, Devasena's battle skills don't go for a toss just because she married him (like Avantika's did - right after she sleeps with Shivudu, she's captured by an army and breaks her leg too!). When the commander of the army, Bhalladeva's man, attempts to molest her, Devasena chops off his fingers without a moment's hesitation. She doesn't need Amarendra to spill out of the skies to defend herself.

And lastly, Devasena rips apart the idea that femininity and compassion are inextricably entwined. When her husband is cruelly killed on the day of her child's birth and she is enslaved by Bhallaladeva, Devasena plans a terrible revenge. Like Draupadi who took an oath not to tie up her hair till she drenches it with the blood of Dushasana, Devasena's thirst for vengeance keeps her alive and she succeeds in her mission with single-minded devotion. And oh, she's perfectly comfortable in her own skin despite all her "masculine" skills unlike poor Avantika who needed a make-over from Shivudu to like her own image.

People often dismiss feminist criticism as "missing the point". When you're given such a beautiful film to watch, why do you nitpick they ask. How does it matter what Shivudu does to Avantika when there's such a gorgeous waterfall in the backdrop? It matters because it's the characters who make a film, not the scenery. It matters because when you have a well-defined female lead, the film becomes all the more interesting. It matters because if Devasena wasn't who she is, Amarendra wouldn't be who he is either. To quote a saying that Baahubali would appreciate, without Shakti, Shiva is Shava.

Thank you, Rajamouli: what you did with Avantika in the first film still gets our goat but you have redeemed yourself with Devasena. And if you do make a third film, allow your female lead to best the hero once in a while. Surely, if he can take mountains crashing on his shoulders, he can handle a woman's victory with equanimity.

Edited by rogerrocks - 8 years ago
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^^ what I also liked was not once did amarendra blame devasena for getting separated from his mother, his throne and the palace...he never gives her the impression that he has "sacrificed" stuff for her...but rather it's more like he knew exactly what he was giving up and was okay with it because it's more important for him to support his wife.
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@roger : I agree. Baahubali showed all kinds of patience and manners while dealing with Sivagami. Understandable, because she is his mother and he owes a lot of things in his life to her given how she didn't give birth to him but always treated him like her own. But Devasena had never seen Sivagami acting fair, given these circumstances till what extent would she go to please her anyway? Sivagami took all wrong decisions when it came to Devasena and that too for no huge fault of hers except for the harsh rejection.

Am so glad Baahu let Devasena be herself till the end and never chided her at any point for speaking her mind out. Because eventually it was also her, who was wronged un-necessarily. She never lashed out for no reason or just for fun. He loved and respected her mother but he gave equal weightage to Devasena's wishes and her presence in his life. Best part. So powerful.


@pathaka : Not showing the entire thing as a huge 'sacrifice' was easily the best part of the movie. It was shown as his duty to protect her more than anything else. They didn't glorify shit, make a big deal out of it ..and also.. so glad that they didn't show a guilt-ridden Devasena.

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#BookMyShow has contributed INR 120 crore to the opening weekend collection of #Baahubali2 in India. They sold over 6.5 million tickets.


What would most of us do without BMS?😳 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
@rogerrocks - thanks for posting the article ! This makes me want to watch BB2 on big screen! And yes this article highlighted the points why I couldnt like BB1 .. all those 'manliness' by the so called hero Shivudu was a big big putoff. Glad that Amarendra wasn't like one.


Devasena and Shivagami - The most attractive equation I have seen at recent times!
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Originally posted by: pathaka

^^ what I also liked was not once did amarendra blame devasena for getting separated from his mother, his throne and the palace...he never gives her the impression that he has "sacrificed" stuff for her...but rather it's more like he knew exactly what he was giving up and was okay with it because it's more important for him to support his wife.


I mentioned the same thing. The fact that he never made a big deal out of the sacrifice along with the fact that Devasena never drowned herself in guilt for being the reason behind him not becoming the king is such a refreshing change. There are so many subtle aspects in the film which make it such a fascinating and progressive love story. I cant believe its SSR who is behind this cos post films like Vikramarkudu or even Baahubali 1, I was convinced he can never write a non-tacky love story 😆 The fact that he came up with this is super amazing.

P.S. I said it before. That scene where she walks on his shoulders is one of the most romantic scenes on celluloid (atleast in recent times). It conveyed everything the love story stood for..
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What would most of us do without BMS?😳 😆


most of us will be standing infront of theatres god knows for how longer...😆

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