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Posted: 8 years ago
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Have just skimmed through some of the comments but it's easy to decipher as to how it's one of those scenarios ..where you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. If Shahrukh had won for FAN then I'm sure quite a few here would have been like rigged 😆 but even when he hasn't won , folks are still stating it's rigged! 😆. So by not giving an award to Shahrukh for FAN where his performance was almost universally praised by everyone and their brother , the FF awards have done damage control..bravo on that effed up logic man! And I'm not even stating Aamir or Shahid or Manoj didn't deserve their awards , Aamir was beyond fantastic in Dangal , haven't watched UP or Aligarh to comment on the performances but it's darn clear that Shahid and Manoj were damn good as the reviews stated that. The hypocrisy is what I find amazing here. On one hand you would have an issue with Shahrukh getting an award for a performance which was praised by almost every critic out there and would label the awards as rigged but on the other hand you are darn pleased when your favorite wins the same award and then the narrative changes to damage control because obviously going from rigged to not rigged would be too drastic , so let's take the middle path! 😆 Every award has its own set of jury , so just like anything a FF jury too has its own likes or preferences when it comes to performances. Which is why awards too are subjective because at the end of the day it's an opinion or rather a majority of opinion that decides who the winner is.

I don't put any of these awards on some pedestal but I always find it amusing as to how certain things become rigged or not so rigged based on who wins it! Even Oscars and Golden Globes are not without their flaws. Anyone who has followed those would know as to how much politics happens there as well.
Edited by zaroonkashaf - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#42
Expecting to see some backtracking now 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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ok...wht makes u think that will start believing these BA...still doesn't take away of wht's been happening for many years in these awards shows...two days back they were trashed for not nominating Manoj,Dangal girls and Akki...it looks like damage control from their side...how come Manoj is not nominated who gave one of best performance of the year and even Dangal girls...IMO Aamir and Manoj delivered top 2 performances of the year...they were absolutely brilliant...
Edited by raj80 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#44
FF negtively trended on twitter so possible hai k Damage Control ho to please people
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25


TV shows are in different category from motion picture in GG...look at their list of categories.

Their drama films are usually the serious ones like our art/parallel cinema in BW and comedy/ musicals in HW are same as our commercial movies
So GG film awards have some commonality with BW awards.

Oscars are highly biased in favor of Caucasian actors, last year there was huge controversy and protests as no non white actors/actresses were even nominated.

Just because its Hollywood, its not perfect. We always criticize BW awards on this forum but HW awards are no better, especially Oscars.
Golden Globes are better actually, the winners are usually the deserving ones as we have observed over the years.


i already said hollywood award shows also hav thier flaws, no awarding system is perfect or completely fair, but you can agree the oscars, golden globes, sag awards r mor respected than bollywood award shows even by the bollywood industry, even anupama tweeted last year she wished bollywood had an award show with the same excitement as the oscars, i'm not saying hollywood is better than bollywood, but thier awarding system is better in some cases


i just think the format of bollywood award shows needs to be better, it shud be live, not so long, and the actors shud not know who is winning before hand, yes that doesn't mean there wont still be any rigging but with these changes it can make an improvement

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: zara321



i already said hollywood award shows also hav thier flaws, no awarding system is perfect or completely fair, but you can agree the oscars, golden globes, sag awards r mor respected than bollywood award shows even by the bollywood industry, even anupama tweeted last year she wished bollywood had an award show with the same excitement as the oscars, i'm not saying hollywood is better than bollywood, but thier awarding system is better in some cases


i just think the format of bollywood award shows needs to be better, it shud be live, not so long, and the actors shud not know who is winning before hand, yes that doesn't mean there wont still be any rigging but with these changes it can make an improvement


Americans generally have more respect for their institutions, like the Oscars, Sag awards, GG etc.
Even when Oscars are horribly biased and racist, they attend and applaud... though I think black actors boycotted last year, didnt they?

Oscars also give awards to undeserving candidates, and deserving ones are ignored...has happened many many times over the years.
What abt Leo being constantly ignored for so many years inspite of giving best performances?

As for Anupama tweeting how wonderful Oscars are...she and her hubby are always biased towards HW and turn their noses on BW.

Problem is we desis always diss our own industry and awards while praising HW and its awards inspite of all the favoritism, lobbying, biasness, racism that goes on in the Oscars

I agree abt the BW award shows though, too long, loud and flashy...they shd cut down on the dance performances, they shd be live, winners shd not know beforehand.

Oscars are sometimes so horribly boring, like when James Franco and Anne Hathaway co-hosted...it was a snoozefest, everyone here trashed it...but I bet Anupama found that one thrilling too...😆
Edited by pallavi25 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25


Americans generally have more respect for their institutions, like the Oscars, Sag awards, GG etc.
Even when Oscars are horribly biased and racist, they attend and applaud... though I think black actors boycotted last year, didnt they?

Oscars also give awards to undeserving candidates, and deserving ones are ignored...has happened many many times over the years.
What abt Leo being constantly ignored for so many years inspite of giving best performances?

As for Anupama tweeting how wonderful Oscars are...she and her hubby are always biased towards HW and turn their noses on BW.

Problem is we desis always diss our own industry and awards while praising HW and its awards inspite of all the favoritism, lobbying, biasness, racism that goes on in the Oscars

I agree abt the BW award shows though, too long, loud and flashy...they shd cut down on the dance performances, they shd be live, winners shd not know beforehand.

Oscars are sometimes so horribly boring, like when James Franco and Anne Hathaway co-hosted...it was a snoozefest, everyone here trashed it...but I bet Anupama found that one thrilling too...😆


for me its nothing to do with hollywood awards being 'white', i am more involved and up to date with bollywood than hollywood, i personally want the bollywood award system to improve, to be better, bollywood has so much talent that deserves to get recognised, it has so much more to offer, the awards shouldn't be a mockery or a comedy show, it shud be a place where all the industry can come together and celebrate the years movies

and yeh leo didn't win for many years wen he shud hav, but he still attended the awards everytime he was nominated and was very happy wen he eventually won, he didn't boycott or throw in the towel wen he didn't win

i'm sure aamir doesn't care that he won the filmfare, so wat respect does this award have?

I want bollywood to hav an award show that everyone respects, takes seriously, where there is an actual excitement to attend and watch it


Edited by zara321 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: zara321

for me its nothing to do with hollywood awards being 'white', i am more involved and up to date with bollywood than hollywood, i personally want the bollywood award system to improve, to be better, bollywood has so much talent that deserves to get recognised, it has so much more to offer, the awards shouldn't be a mockery or a comedy show, it shud be a place where all the industry can come together and celebrate the years movies

and yeh leo didn't win for many years wen he shud hav, but he still attended the awards everytime he was nominated and was very happy wen he eventually won, he didn't boycott or throw in the towel wen he didn't win

i'm sure aamir doesn't care that he won the filmfare, so wat respect does this award have?

I want bollywood to hav an award show that everyone respects, takes seriously, where there is an actual excitement to attend and watch it



Comedy show is done at Oscars too...did u ever watch Billy Crystal hosting the show, he was hilarious. Lately that Brit comedian has been hosting the show. But they cracked some lame jokes too, they insult the attending celebs too, like BW show hosts.

Leo attended Oscars even when he was repeatedly snubbed, he didnt act like a sore loser like our BW actors do...thats called respecting your industry colleagues.

Its Aamir's fault that he doesnt respect his own country's awards but hankers for Oscars even after being snubbed.
He did win FF award twice before so why was he so pissed off when he didnt?
You win some, u lose some, but dont diss those awards when u dont win.

This is why Im saying Americans have more respect in general for their own awards, institutions, while we desis love to look down on BW industry and look up to HW.

Back when Filmfare was the only award ceremony it had a lot of respect. Now there are so many award shows by different organizations that they have become like a fish market, thats the reason why all awards shows have lost their validity.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Not read any comments, my 2 cents -
All awards are rigged , some more than others.
FF this year was trying to savage its reputation while balancing the usual Stars ego. It has done reasonably well this time .
Hope other awards also follow the suit .
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Irony when just 2 days back he said he does not care about awards😆

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