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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Fantasia.

Anushka Sharma was saved by a small margin because of the worldwide likeness of a bubbly girl. She might have gone overboard in a few scenes but she will be forgiven as audience wont judge her character when placed in comparison to Ranbir.


No and NO! So many scenes and all this person got out of them was 'bubbly'...thodi vocabulary bhadao, bhaiyya! Alizeh was tremendously self-aware, saucy and sardonic . Bar hopping and dancing in clubs or being a Bollywood buff who quotes dialogues does not just make one just 'bubbly' 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: starstruckk

@ kabeera - We have to keep reminding ourselves Ranbir is playing KJo..😆...and when you really think about Ayan, you do see KJo. 😆 Not that we know him, but from whatever we do know him, Karan definitely seems to have kept himself in mind when writing Ayan. Ranbir definitely was the only guy who could pull this off. I even said this in some other post, any other actor would have been a complete and utter disaster.


I think pretty much everything Ayan was KJo (except for the parents history and singing bit)...the misfit in school, lonely rich kid, name-called, lack of confidence, melodramatic, over-emotional, not so charming, not-so-good in relationships, has huge love for everything Bollywood, dances by himself...

Originally posted by: Fantasia.

btw i wanted to pose another question, what do you all think happened between Saba and Tahir .. because they talk to each other in coded words .. what i believe is that they played a parallel to Ayan and Alizeh .. Tahir loved Saba but Saba couldnt move beyond friendship .. because she says maine tumhari mohabbat dekh li .. ab tum meri dosti azmaa k dekho ..


From what I got out of their interaction, Tahir messed up in the relationship...Saba noped out of it...he was still in love with her and wanted another chance, but now she was just going to give him friendship at best. But overwhelmingly, all I can remember thinking during that scene is how desperately I wanted SRK to grow a stubble right there on the spot...it hurts me to look at him without one.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: kabeeraspeaking




From what I got out of their interaction, Tahir messed up in the relationship...Saba noped out of it...he was still in love with her and wanted another chance, but now she was just going to give him friendship at best. But overwhelmingly, all I can remember thinking during that scene is how desperately I wanted SRK to grow a stubble right there on the spot...it hurts me to look at him without one.


hahaha .. i posted my review in the previous thread i guess .. i wrote the same thing, SRK was wonderful but he should have looked more handsome! 😆 ..

and yeah could be that Tahir cheated and Saba stepped back bcz they do say .. tum sanbhal leti and Saba says .. jo gire wo khud sanble or smthing ..
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Posted: 8 years ago
#34
I feel like whenever people want to write sad stories they make one person sick. So I wish she wasn't sick. Having said that I really cried a lot towards the end of the movie. Despite the story the acting was amazing, the emotions that were portrayed made sense to me, and it was beautiful.
I hope the movie does well. I live in the U.S and went to watch it Saturday morning, my theater was 90% full.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#35
for me the first 40 minutes to make movie seem light and funny and the last 30 minutes of that cancer track to bring tears didn't work.

I loved the scene with Alizeh, Ayan and DJ Ali. That was my expectation from the movie.

I wouldn't have minded a serious, intense roller-coaster of a movie with characters that were flawed, and that we got to know on a much deeper level. This one felt too superficial and shallow like it barely touched the surface in terms of characters their relationships and their emotions.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Remus.Lupin4

for me the first 40 minutes to make movie seem light and funny and the last 30 minutes of that cancer track to bring tears didn't work.

I loved the scene with Alizeh, Ayan and DJ Ali. That was my expectation from the movie.

I wouldn't have minded a serious, intense roller-coaster of a movie with characters that were flawed, and that we got to know on a much deeper level. This one felt too superficial and shallow like it barely touched the surface in terms of characters their relationships and their emotions.


It wouldn't have been a Diwali movie or even a KJo movie then. He needed to add certain elements to make it a 'big' movie for the date and for what satisfies him and those elements took precedence over showing more explanatory conversations/logical bridges/backstory of characters (my SIL, with whom I went to see the movie, said that her chief complaint was why no one's family was shown and everyone just felt like 'lone strangers with no kin' meeting/bumping into each other at different spots.) Breakup song totally wasn't needed, neither was Alia's cameo. Had he used such minutes of runtime to show a well-developed backstory for both Ayan and Alizeh via even montages, there would have been a deeper understanding and connect. But that's not his forte or even priority over stuff like the necessary dance number or star cameo...unfortunately.

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Just want to mention that scene after the dinner, where Ayan goes to where Alizeh is staying and tells her to let him go...the way RK played that with his eyes down and unable to even look at her the entire time...I don't think I've ever seen someone cry on screen like that.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#37
One time watch movie the ending was the huge put off I didn't get it at all to be honest left with so much mystery.
Did she actually died?

I'm a big Fawad Khan fangirl but I was disappointed with his role he had decent roles in Khoobsurat and K&S but this? 👎🏼 He was only a showpiece in the film.

Great performances by Ranbir & Anushka they had chemistry in this film compared to BV they had zero chemistry, they make a beautiful pair but deserves better than this film but a big improvement here with the chemistry compare to BV.

2.5/5

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Posted: 8 years ago
#38

A Hopeless Romantic's Review Of Ae Dil Hai Mushkil


Kuch Kuch Hota Hai was probably the first movie I watched where I was old enough to have feelings about what was happening on screen, even if I didn't fully understand why I was having those feelings. Even at that age, all those emotions felt tangible to me: Anjali's longing as she looked at Rahul while the train pulled away from the platform. Rahul's profound sadness coupled with his confusion at seeing this relationship in a new light. Tina's regret upon understanding that she really had, in fact, come between the two. I wouldn't have been able to identify any of those emotions then, but it didn't matter - I was able to feel them, and that's where Karan Johars greatest strength lies: in exploring relationships so deftly that you don't even realise he's pulled apart so many different layers and put them in front of you.

18 years later, Karan explores friendship, love and heartbreak again with Ae Dil Hai Mushkil. This is probably the film most similar to his first outing as a director, as it features several themes and concepts that he first brought up in Kuch Kuch Hota Hai. In many ways, though, this is a more mature outing. Gone is the innocence of an 8-year-old who believes in happy endings and is determined to make one happen. Instead, we've got the wonderfully complex Alizeh, a woman who laughs easily and openly, but has seen her fair share of heartbreak. (Boyfriends, according to her, are like movies - some are blockbusters, some are timepass.)

Alizeh, thanks to The Big Heartbreak, is jaded and cynical. She prefers being in a relationship where she doesn't have to really get involved, and this is something that speaks volumes of our generation. How many of us are so scared of heartbreak, that the fear alone is enough to keep us away from trying? This, of course, doesn't work out well for Ayan, the man who Alizeh becomes fast friends with, but who slowly ends up wanting more from her. Ayan has yet to experience The Big Heartbreak, and so he's largely immature in his approach to love: he loves a person, and therefore he wants her, and he cannot understand how she doesn't feel the same for him.

The moment Ayan realises he's in love with this woman, over a phone call, is one of the most beautiful scenes in the film. Equally beautiful is what comes after, when he travels to India to attend her wedding. I never thought I'd be a fan of back-to-back songs in a film, but ADHM does it so perfectly with Cutiepie and Channa Mereya. One minute we're occupied in wedding festivities, and the next we're pulled out of that as Ayan realises he can't possibly fake it any more. The transition is heartbreaking, because Ayan's longing for Alizeh is palpable. And longing really is the crux of the film.

Because if there's a feeling stronger than love, it's longing. You can love someone a lot, but you can't love someone as much as you can want them, or miss them.

It's no wonder, then, that Ayan goes borderline crazy in the film. Junoon, they say. He gets fairly abusive (which is almost unsettling to watch, especially since it's so raw) and he constantly demands the answer: Why can't you love me?

Alizeh's answer always remains the same: I do love you. There's a scene, during the climax, when Alizeh has to break it down for him. In romantic love, she says, she's always found destruction. But the love that she has for him is her strength - and, to her, it's more important than any other form of love. Pyaar mein junoon hai, dosti mein sukoon hai. The love she's giving Ayan is the strongest form for her. But this is not enough for Ayan, who is hung up on romantic love, and cannot see that this is more powerful.

Can you truly accept the love another person is giving you, if it's not the love you want from them?

There is just so much to feel and analyze and internalise in Ae Dil Hai Mushkil, that the big plot twist towards the end feels absolutely unnecessary. This is the one reason I can't say I completely loved the film, because those last 30 minutes pulled me out of it. There's no need for gratuitous tragedy to force the audience to feel things, when there's already so much to take in organically.

But, thankfully, the very end is a saving grace, because Ae Dil Hai Mushkils greatest strength is that there's no "happy ending" in the traditional sense. He doesn't "get the girl" like the movies have led us to believe should happen. Instead, he learns to appreciate the strength of a love so pure that it doesn't even need to be romantic.

Somewhere between "pyaar dosti hai" and "pyaar mein junoon hai, dosti mein sukoon hai," Ayan grew up. And so did we.

Edited by dietcoke1 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#39
I can't see this movie. One of my family members had heart attack.
Please pray for my family.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: kabeeraspeaking


It wouldn't have been a Diwali movie or even a KJo movie then. He needed to add certain elements to make it a 'big' movie for the date and for what satisfies him and those elements took precedence over showing more explanatory conversations/logical bridges/backstory of characters (my SIL, with whom I went to see the movie, said that her chief complaint was why no one's family was shown and everyone just felt like 'lone strangers with no kin' meeting/bumping into each other at different spots.) Breakup song totally wasn't needed, neither was Alia's cameo. Had he used such minutes of runtime to show a well-developed backstory for both Ayan and Alizeh via even montages, there would have been a deeper understanding and connect. But that's not his forte or even priority over stuff like the necessary dance number or star cameo...unfortunately.

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Just want to mention that scene after the dinner, where Ayan goes to where Alizeh is staying and tells her to let him go...the way RK played that with his eyes down and unable to even look at her the entire time...I don't think I've ever seen someone cry on screen like that.



Word.

I would have loved watching Ayan's childhood. We heard that his mother left him when he was young, but I would have liked to see his childhood, his teenager years and his equation with his father for me to better understand him. Same goes for Alizeh I would have liked to see her equation with her family. I agree Alia's cameo was not needed and I wouldn't have minded if he had skipped Imran's cameo either. These minor characters didn't really add to the story nor to an understanding of the main characters. I was very disappointed with Fawad's character as well. We barely got to see him and hear from him. He had few dialogues and he was part of a song.

When I was watching that Fawad, Anushka and Ranbir scene I thought to myself Karan was working with such talented actors and he had to utilize them make the most of them, so it disappointed me when he didn't give them enough strong material to work with. Anushka in particular I love her in serious scenes her expressions are spot on, and I really would have liked to see that than the Bollywood references at the start.

Yes, RK crying in that scene looking down was a bit unusual. I wonder if the word for that scene was shame.
Edited by Remus.Lupin4 - 8 years ago

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