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Ume Salma Kakal

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Posted: 9 years ago

#121

Originally posted by: Lighthearted
is any diffence between hit script and hit film?

No, if the script is good and so is the actor then the movie is a hit. In this forum if you want to discredit an actor just say the script was good.

If you give a good script to an average actor there is no way a movie can become a hit.

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Posted: 9 years ago

#122

lot of crybabies in this forum. 😆

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Posted: 9 years ago

#123

Originally posted by: turqoisedress

Nowadays he makes movies only because of VFX and to 'compete with HW on technology'. 😆 How he's competing with HW based on DW, HNY, CE only he knows. 😆

There was this interview during DW times where audience could ask questions...this lady point blank asked him why he's been doing such horrible films and why his films no longer have any story. He actually struggled to answer this question ...in the end he made up BS about competing with HW for technology...standard BS...I wanted to improve VFX because otherwise BW will die, bla bla bla. 😕😆

You can compete with HW without sacrificing the story and this basic concept he doesn't seem to understand.

Competing with HW is all well and good but technology has no effect or purpose without a proper story structure and script to go with it. Fan was a good mix where the vfx had a point and enhanced the real story. I think the small bits of vfx worked really well way back in Paheli too, which is a movie I loved even if flopped.

But Ra.one was an absolute disaster on just about every level. He proved nothing with that movie, not with vfx or anything else. Technology goes to waste if you're not using it correctly to enhance your storytelling. Ra.one was nonsense with loads of pointless guest appearances, fake hyped up songs, pathetic story, bad jokes, and a "superhero" that basically does nothing. Superhero stories are really hard to make because you need to do a lot of world-building and background histories. They also need a proper villain and the hero has to have a real purpose in the world besides idiotic family stuff.

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PAcino

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Posted: 9 years ago

#124

Originally posted by: Pehchaan.Kaun
He never had. I always thought of SRK as a terrific actor, until one day I realized he's a true blue business and a success-hunger .. Nothing wrong in it, but definitely not an artist 😵
In his starting of his career, he was able to experiment like hell, cuz he wanted to succeed.. He used to do 4/5 movies a year, anything which clicks would be fine by him .. But that's never an artistic quality.. Luckily movies like Darr, Bazigar etc clicked with him.. But it could've been flops.. But still he would continue doing 4/5 movies a year, because hard work has no replacement and one day he was bound to succeed👏..

As much as I loved SRK, I realized his insecurity for money and success pretty late and I now think that's him.. I love him as a successful hard-working man.. But he has no artistic quality or never was an actor.. In a 25 yr career, I can only pick Swades as an outstanding movie and performance, but that ratio isn't really good 😳

What were Chak De, KHKN,Dil Se, FAN,DDLJ,KHNH,Baazigar,Darr,VZ then??

Razzie winners?

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pallavi25

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Posted: 9 years ago

#125

Originally posted by: turqoisedress
^ I don't understand why you are throwing around numbers at us Pallavi. Who cares what SRK's success count is? How much money Dilwale or Fan or HNY or CE made? Like anonymous said they don't even matter after a point..and it is only the Sallu fans who care for them anyways.

He has had a successful career for 25 years and he is still successful...that doesn't refute the FACT that he is on a downward spiral...that he has done some horrible films over the last 7-8 years so much that people don't really trust his film selection anymore. There was a time when people used to 'oh it's a SRK film, it can't be that bad...must have some story in it.'' Now we are at ' oh another bad film from SRK, no surprise' ...

SRK can do any movie he wants. Artistic, potboiler whatever...but at least pay attention to the story and do it. Don't do it because of friends, or VFX, or because he thinks it will be a big hit, etc. Read the damn script. Get a proper narration...and if he thinks something is wrong then stand his ground and ask for changes.

Who cares if Papa Salim chooses films for Sallu? They are working both critically and commercially for him right? They are earning him respect right? He has figured out Aamir's humane connect + holiday release combo. Same for Akki, so what that he started doing better films over the last 2-3 years? He is at least trying right? So what that SRK used to do it first...he hasn't been able to find the balance TODAY...no point talking about the past.

Do u mean to say Kick, Ready, Wanted, Bodyguard, Jai Ho all had critical success?😆

PRDP had critical success? 😆

Sallu has been doing trashy but successful movies too for last several years. Why is that kosher but SRK doing commercial masala movies which earn BO not acceptable? 😕

Why the double standards and extra expectations from SRK and not from Sallu?

Audience demands masala entertainers so stars have to provide that too otherwise they lose the race.

Ever since people started obsessing with 100 crore club (last 4-5 yrs) all the stars are striving so every movie of theirs enters that club... then why shd SRK not try for BO success as well?

Shd he only do movies for artistic content which dont do well at BO and ignore what the masses want? Why cant he do a mix of both which hes doing now? 😕

And if you dont care abt BO, then why are you cribbing abt Fan? Was Fan a bad movie? SRK acted his heart out for the movie but since it didnt have commercial content it didnt do well in India.

At least hes trying, his next movies are all content based then whats your complaint exactly?

SRK is doing bad films for last 8 years, Really? Then what was MNIK? Much better than Sallu's movies during that period.

Even CE was really entertaining, clean movie. No vulgarity as found in Salman's movies.

Actually SRK is put on a double edged sword now, if he does masala movies that are successful movies he is bashed for doing trashy films, if he does content based movies which dont get BO success, hes bashed that he cant connect with the masses.

Pehley people shd decide what they want from him? Failed content movies (like Ranbir did Tamasha) or successful masala movies (like CE and HNY)

You guys are bringing up Ra.One which is from 2011, why not talk abt his latest, Fan, which was a good movie, SRK was brilliant in both roles.

Why talk abt the past and then accuse others of talking abt the past? Look at the future and see what hes doing...all the upcoming movies with good directors.

Yeah, he doesnt have a daddy dearest to help him choose the scripts but I think Imtiaz, Anand L Rai, Gauri Shinde would have good scripts for him.

Edited by pallavi25 - 9 years ago

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745671

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Posted: 9 years ago

#126

^You're setting up a false argument here. Why do you automatically assume blockbusters are trashy movies and good content movies are flops? Why do you keep bringing up comparisons with Salman when I think most of the people complaining about SRK's movies don't care about Salman in the first place?

I don't particularly care what Salman is doing because I don't care about Salman. I don't watch most of his movies so it doesn't matter to me. However, his movies are connecting with people and you can't deny that. SRK's movies get numbers the first weekend and crash because people don't like them. He's still able to get those numbers on his name but they don't do well from the 2nd week onward because the content is missing and they are just not liked.

Nobody is cribbing about Fan so again, I don't know what you're talking about. Most of us mentioned Fan being the exception in SRK's parade of bad movies. Nobody is even saying he has to do art movies. There are good entertaining potboilers like Dabangg, Bajrangi Bhaijaan, Main Hoon Na, Singham.. they are as commercial as possible. Heck, let's throw Chennai Express into that pile too.

But if you want to talk ratios, one Fan and one Chennai Express can't make up for rest.

Guess what, art movies are not automatically good and potboilers are not automatically trashy. There can be good and bad everywhere. The key is to make a decent quality movie regardless of whatever genre.

[quote]Yeah, he doesnt have a daddy dearest to help him choose the scripts but I think Imtiaz, Anand L Rai, Gauri Shinde would have good scripts for him.

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I can't believe I'm going to have to defend Salman here because I'm not even a fan. But how is it relevant who selects his movies? How does it matter? Salman doesn't get much credit because of all his bad behavior but the guy had good movies when he was young too. It's not just a new thing. Come on, Salman had movies like Saajan and Andaz Apna Apna and HAHK even back in the day. It's not his new movies are some sudden thing that Daddy is helping him with.

Edited by anonymous39 - 9 years ago

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Kyon Bey

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Posted: 9 years ago

#127

Originally posted by: turqoisedress
it is only the Sallu fans who care for them anyways.

Don't Stereotype Salman fans, i can show u 100s of threads where BO Numbers are been thrown by other fans, threads post karoon??

Why is it that talking about BO Numbers is considered to be so bad in this forum, as if we r doing insane crime?

Every single fandom does post BO Numbers whenever their star does good at it, why single out us?

So many threads, post are made to mock us, never seen anyone question them why picking on us?

Salman is doing exceptionally well now, it is normal for us to celebrate & discuss about it, ppl don't need to point at us, they can discuss about their own stars.

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pallavi25

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Posted: 9 years ago

#128

Originally posted by: anonymous39
^You're setting up a false argument here. Why do you automatically assume blockbusters are trashy movies and good content movies are flops? Why do you keep bringing up comparisons with Salman when I think most of the people complaining about SRK's movies don't care about Salman in the first place?
I don't particularly care what Salman is doing because I don't care about Salman. I don't watch most of his movies so it doesn't matter to me. However, his movies are connecting with people and you can't deny that. SRK's movies get numbers the first weekend and crash because people don't like them. He's still able to get those numbers on his name but they don't do well from the 2nd week onward because the content is missing and they are just not liked.

Nobody is cribbing about Fan so again, I don't know what you're talking about. Most of us mentioned Fan being the exception in SRK's parade of bad movies. Nobody is even saying he has to do art movies. There are good entertaining potboilers like Dabangg, Bajrangi Bhaijaan, Main Hoon Na, Singham.. they are as commercial as possible. Heck, let's throw Chennai Express into that pile too.

Still, if you want to talk about ratios, 1 or 2 decent movies in 7-8 years is HORRIBLE.

Talk abt the future, SRK is doing movies with Anand L Rai, Imtiaz Ali, Gauri Shinde, doesnt that mean hes doing films with good scripts?

But will they be guaranteed commercial success? Will they all earn 100 crores? I doubt it. The masses dont connect with artistic movies so much, thats why Swades was a flop, Lootera was a flop inspite of being such gems.

Salman's trashy movies become BO success because masses want to watch masala movies with song, dance, action, romance, larger than life hero.

Ideally SRK shd choose 1 commercial masala movie and one artistic movie in a year, that would be the perfect balance.

And please, if u can include Dabangg, Singham in good entertaining potboilers, then definitely CE shd be in that group.😆 And MNIK was a great movie too, it didnt connect with Indian audiences because it dealt with racism in the US.

Papa Salim helped him get his first roles too, hes an industry kid, SRK is not, he had to do whatever roles that came his way, did 2nd hero role first, then villains roles and succeeded big time and then switched to romance genre. SRK came up the hard way, not the cushioned way like the other 2 Khans.

Saajan had Sanju and Madhuri, HAHK was totally Madz mania, AAA was Aamir, Sallu combo, none of them were solely Sallu's hits.

Edited by pallavi25 - 9 years ago

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Male-Chauvinist-Pig

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Posted: 9 years ago

#129

Maine Pyar Kiya was an ATBB, and it had only Sallu😉
and not any other superstar.

Edited by Love_Katty_24-7 - 9 years ago

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Kyon Bey

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Posted: 9 years ago

#130

Why is every Srk film did in past 7 years is by default considered to be trashy only?

Keeping bashing aside, Don 2 is highly under rated film, which didn't even get any chance to be discussed in any way, na hi box office wise, na hi content wise.

This script sense, content films, good quality films came into film discussion in last 7 years only. Before 3 idiots, hardly anyone cared about what kind of script is there or not.

Long list of films which are huge hits & has average script, some even looks trashy when u see now, how the hell this film becomes huge hit?

Srk has always been competitive, he can't see himself down to 3rd or even 2nd place. He will do anything to comeback & achieve that King No.1 Spot, he has always aim for that, won't rest it for less.

More Salman & Aamir give super hit films, more pressure will be on him to beat them by giving much bigger super hit film. He is doing Fan, Dear Zindagi kind of films for his fans only who complain about masala genre.

BTW, Masala genre is the key for every top 10 stars of hindi cinema, they don't became stars by doing content films, if this was the case Irrfan Khan would have been No.1 not Salman Khan.

Edited by .Lakhan. - 9 years ago