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Posted: 9 years ago
Oh boy! Shahrukh who has been acting for more than three decades now has no artisitc quality...okayyy! 😆 A guy who started in theater and then went on to work in television apparently lacks artisitc quality. A guy who only started working in the film industry as he wanted a change of scene after his mother's passing lacks artistic quality, some of the stuff you come across here is truly something else man. The fact that he experimented with negative roles should tell one that he was very rooted to what he had learnt in his theater days. He didn't see those as roles the way some of his peers did. They rejected it because of the hero image or the leading man image. He went onto own that genre. He then broke that mould and went on to do romantic movies and owns that genre too. Here's someone who has done a variety of roles and that's called being an artist. If he has done out and out commercial movies like OSO, MHN, CE then he has also done a Swades, Chak De, FAN or Kabhi Haan Kabhi Naa.
As for money, he is unapologetic about the fact that he dances at weddings or the fact that he does plenty of endorsements. But he's darn clear about the fact he does movies because he loves acting. I find it darn hilarious when people question why he has done commercial potboilers. Um..because he wants to. Or is that right exclusive to only his peers...lol!
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Posted: 9 years ago
If it is true that srk rejected ek tha tiger movie, then I am glad salman did it.
I really like ek tha tiger movie and salman did a brilliant job in that movie.

salman rejected chak de movie and srk got it.



Edited by bbsai - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: srkjuhi

Oh boy! Shahrukh who has been acting for more than three decades now has no artisitc quality...okayyy! 😆 A guy who started in theater and then went on to work in television apparently lacks artisitc quality. A guy who only started working in the film industry as he wanted a change of scene after his mother's passing lacks artistic quality, some of the stuff you come across here is truly something else man. The fact that he experimented with negative roles should tell one that he was very rooted to what he had learnt in his theater days. He didn't see those as roles the way some of his peers did. They rejected it because of the hero image or the leading man image. He went onto own that genre. He then broke that mould and went on to do romantic movies and owns that genre too. Here's someone who has done a variety of roles and that's called being an artist. If he has done out and out commercial movies like OSO, MHN, CE then he has also done a Swades, Chak De, FAN or Kabhi Haan Kabhi Naa.

As for money, he is unapologetic about the fact that he dances at weddings or the fact that he does plenty of endorsements. But he's darn clear about the fact he does movies because he loves acting. I find it darn hilarious when people question why he has done commercial potboilers. Um..because he wants to. Or is that right exclusive to only his peers...lol!


You can't rest on past laurels forever. I used to be a huge SRK fan but I can barely stand him anymore. He has consistently made horrible movies for the last 7-8 years. Fan was an exception but Fan is the type of movie that you make if you're making 3 movies a year. It's too small, too insufficient, to be the type of a movie you make when you barely release one movie a year.

There's nothing wrong with making blockbusters but there is some authenticity needed even in masala movies. Dabangg has that. Singham had that. Bajrangi Bhaijaan had that. These were genuinely decent movies (though I detest masala movies) so potboilers can also be satisfying movies. Heck, SRK himself had that in Main Hoon Na and Om Shanti Om. But lately, not at all. Happy New Year was god-awful and so was Dilwale. Masala movies also require some quality. That's not even counting a true disaster like Ra.one. Jab Tak Hai Jaan was not even a masala movie but it was really bad too. How can someone make such consistently bad movies one after another for years?
Edited by anonymous39 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
And you're absolutely entitled to your opinion. I ain't a fan of the OTT masala movies myself but I enjoyed HNY. And this is coming from someone who still hasn't watched CE. Although there are plenty out there who enjoyed CE. So you're entitled to dislike or like whatever you want. That's anyways subjective. I reacted here for a different reason altogether. When you're discrediting his success or saying that he doesn't have artistic quality then I'll disagree with that. As for the comparison you tried to draw there, I'm not sure how they're comparable. BB was indeed a commercial movie but the script, the characters are darn different from something like a CE. Even Kabir as a director is darn different from RS. Just because both were commercial movies doesn't mean they were treated with the same approach by their directors. A Bodyguard or a Kick can't be compared to a BB either even though the genre is same. A BB falls in the same category as perhaps a Chak De although the latter was far less commercial in its content. A BB is basically a movie that was content driven and happened to be entertaining just like a Chak De and PK. A CE or HNY are OTT masala movies just like a MHN or a OSO. Some liked all of those, some didn't and that's absolutely fine.
And nobody is resting on past laurels but for some here the success ratios have started being of some value only in the past few years. Shahrukh is someone who has been extremely consistent with his success at the BO since he started , pointing it out as that's all that matters here to some. Even the so called dud was the second highest grossing movie of last year so it's the hypocrisy that one has an issue with.
You want to criticize his choice of films in the past few years, please go ahead and do that. Like I said art is subjective. There might be many who like the movies you didn't care for and vice-versa.
Edited by srkjuhi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
^I don't really care about success ratios and number of hits and all that stuff. I don't think it matters much after a point. SRK is a big star and has already made his name. I guess you're referring to the Salman fanatics who do pointless number comparisons constantly but I'm not one of them. I don't care for Salman either so again that doesn't matter to me.

SRK can do potboilers if he wants. Nobody is saying he has to do art movies all the time. But there has to be some sort of quality control even in masala movies. In his older days, he had that most of the time. For the last few years, I don't know what's going on.

I think the problem is that he makes his movies very very cynically based on what trend is currently working, what type of thing to cash it on, throw in some guest appearances and pull some stupid stunts like hiring a HW singer, etc. He wanted to big movie so he paired up with Kajol to try to use that old magic again. Jump on Rohit Shetty train because his dumb movies are working elsewhere, etc. And then wrap it all up in tons of stupid promotion. He actually went a big concert tour just to promote Chennai Express.

Something about it just rubs me the wrong way. It's like he pays no attention to the actual story or script and wastes all his time and money on the packaging and extras to make a quick buck and run like the wind.
Edited by anonymous39 - 9 years ago
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I'll absolutely disagree there. I'm guessing you're referring to Ra.One there since Akon sang in it. Now you might not care for it along with quite a few out there but this notion that it came from a cynical place is something I couldn't disagree more with. It's a movie that he still talks about with just as much passion even though he was bashed left, right and center for it. It's a movie that he has stated he wanted to make for his kids. It's a movie that was in pre production for quite a while before it went on to the floor which should tell one as to much work went into it. The end product might not be something you care about but to question his sincerity there is I guess where we'll agree to disagree. Same goes for Dilwale. The storyline was one where there was a age gap between the siblings. And why would he not want Kajol in that considering how legendary that pairing is. Infact their pairing was one of the best things about the movie.
As for promotions, CE and Dilwale are huge movies so they require promotion on that scale. A FAN doesn't but folks here had an issue with even that...lol. As for making a quick buck, all he has to do is show up at a few weddings to make a quick buck. He does movies because he loves acting. Criticize his choices and script sense by all means but I disagree when one is doubting his sincerity towards those projects.
Edited by srkjuhi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

I dont get what people exactly want from SRK?

Do they expect Artistic movies? Well, he just did one in Fan, next one is coming, Dear Zindagi in November, Raees sometime next year, then Imtiaz movie, ALR movie, all ARTISTIC movies by good directors. 😆

SRK was doing Artistic movies when Sallu and Aamir were still churning out masala entertainers.

SRK started his career with them, Kabhie Haan Kabhie Naa, Raju Ban Gaya Gentleman, and then later CDI, Swades, he has been doing Artistic movies all throughout his career. He did negative roles when nobody else dared to, Darr, Baazigar, and made them super duper hits.

He has had a good mix of masala, romance and artistic movies over the years.

Do they expect BO success from him? CE was a blockbuster, HNY was superhit, Dilwale was semi-hit in India due to clash but a Super Hit Worldwide.

The problem is so much false BO news is given on this forum to undermine SRK's recent successes that people have started believing SRK is a failed actor because he chose bad scripts. 😆

Dont believe everything that is posted on this forum. Its like Goebbel said, Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes a truth. "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

Go and check on movie websites, SRK is still at number 2 in terms of money earned and success.
Hes number 1 in success rate Overall.

http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/bollywood-box-office-power-index/

http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/shahrukh-khan-box-office-analysis-hits-flops-blockbusters/

So what the heck are people cribbing about? 😆
If he didnt have script sense, why would he do CDI and Swades when his contemporaries were doing outright commercial flicks?

Akki just started getting script sense 2-3 yrs ago otherwise he has done purely commercial movies all his life.

As if Salman has a great script sense. 😆Hes only done ONE GOOD movie so far, Bajrangi Bhaijaan. All his recent successes have been masala genre, No Artistic movies at all.

Ready, Wanted, Kick, all crappy movies which did well inspite of being crappy, just like HNY did well inspite of being crappy.

And I am 100% sure that Papa Salim chooses his scripts for him. Sallu doesnt have that much sense as to what ingredients will appeal to people and what role will uplift his image in public. 😉




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Posted: 9 years ago
^ I don't understand why you are throwing around numbers at us Pallavi. Who cares what SRK's success count is? How much money Dilwale or Fan or HNY or CE made? Like anonymous said they don't even matter after a point..and it is only the Sallu fans who care for them anyways.

He has had a successful career for 25 years and he is still successful...that doesn't refute the FACT that he is on a downward spiral...that he has done some horrible films over the last 7-8 years so much that people don't really trust his film selection anymore. There was a time when people used to 'oh it's a SRK film, it can't be that bad...must have some story in it.'' Now we are at ' oh another bad film from SRK, no surprise' ...

SRK can do any movie he wants. Artistic, potboiler whatever...but at least pay attention to the story and do it. Don't do it because of friends, or VFX, or because he thinks it will be a big hit, etc. Read the damn script. Get a proper narration...and if he thinks something is wrong then stand his ground and ask for changes.

Who cares if Papa Salim chooses films for Sallu? They are working both critically and commercially for him right? They are earning him respect right? He has figured out Aamir's humane connect + holiday release combo. Same for Akki, so what that he started doing better films over the last 2-3 years? He is at least trying right? So what that SRK used to do it first...he hasn't been able to find the balance TODAY...no point talking about the past.
Edited by turqoisedress - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: srkjuhi

He wanted to do an out and out commercial movie at the time and there's nothing wrong in that..lol. One has seen sometimes the most commercial movies or masala movies not working at the BO too so there's no guarantee either ways man when it comes to the outcome of a movie. Infact Rohit came to him wanting to do a remake of Angoor and Shahrukh was cool with that but then Rohit suggested CE as he had that idea in mind and they ended up working on that. Like he stated in the interview with Komal Nahta that he wanted to get that monkey off his back so you're absolutely right there that he did want to prove to people who have written him off I don't know how many times before as well. That's just called being driven and motivated man.
I don't think Nawaz was on board initially. I think he came after Farhan decided he didn't want to do the role as he was doing Wazir where he was playing a cop as well. I don't know about the delays in Raees but I have never got the sense from Shahrukh or anyone in team Raees ad if it was his last priority. Like EMP said I think he was offered a few films by Excel and he chose Raees.
But you're assuming that on the basis that Excel would have been cool with shifting BBD to another date. Why would they shift that just because they decided to shift Raees to Jan. That's not a great strategy in my humble opinion because you then are projecting that you can shift one movie to accommodate another one from your PH. It shows lack of respect then on their part for the team of BBD. As for Dear Zindagi, yes it's a small film but like I said maybe they think that's a more apt time to release it as compared to Raees. If I'm not wrong Dear Zindagi is apparently clashing too with Kahaani 2. A week after it Befikre is hitting the theaters. And before that you have Ajay's movie as well as ADHM coming out.
As for bad blood, it depends on how things are handled.
It ain't his fault if the rest of the industry or at least most of it have started booking dates before one even knows the whole cast. He think it's better to book a date after you have shot some portion of the movie. It's not that he's being a rebel for the heck of it. It's just about not believing in that practice of booking a release date before the full cast is even on board as is usually happening these days. And sometimes even booking in advance doesn't mean you can avoid a clash. Well, there were even rumors that portions of Raees would be reshot. I don't think there were any reshoots. How can he dictate something like that to team Kaabil man when it's not a decision that's in his control. He can request them to not clash but that's the extent of it and even there all he can do is request as the decision then lies with Team Kaabil.


Nawaz was on board first. I don't have the articles...maybe someone else can find them. Then Farhan and then it went back to Nawaz when Farhan didn't want to do it.

And it doesn't show lack of respect on their part for Kaabil when they decide to come on the same date and make multiple pleas asking them to move to a different date? I see it as the same thing...and in this industry IMHO, it is easier to shuffle around your own releases than ask someone else to do it for their films.

No booking early doesn't mean you can avoid a clash, but it does mean YOU [as in SRK] are not changing anyone else's plans for yours. Like I said, it is ok if he doesn't believe in the practice and doesn't want to follow it..then he should deal with the consequences, announce his date and sit there & clash. He can't have the best of both worlds.

@ExcuseMePlz

We'll have to agree to disagree :)
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: anonymous39

^I don't really care about success ratios and number of hits and all that stuff. I don't think it matters much after a point. SRK is a big star and has already made his name. I guess you're referring to the Salman fanatics who do pointless number comparisons constantly but I'm not one of them. I don't care for Salman either so again that doesn't matter to me.


SRK can do potboilers if he wants. Nobody is saying he has to do art movies all the time. But there has to be some sort of quality control even in masala movies. In his older days, he had that most of the time. For the last few years, I don't know what's going on.

I think the problem is that he makes his movies very very cynically based on what trend is currently working, what type of thing to cash it on, throw in some guest appearances and pull some stupid stunts like hiring a HW singer, etc. He wanted to big movie so he paired up with Kajol to try to use that old magic again. Jump on Rohit Shetty train because his dumb movies are working elsewhere, etc. And then wrap it all up in tons of stupid promotion. He actually went a big concert tour just to promote Chennai Express.

Something about it just rubs me the wrong way. It's like he pays no attention to the actual story or script and wastes all his time and money on the packaging and extras to make a quick buck and run like the wind.


Nowadays he makes movies only because of VFX and to 'compete with HW on technology'. 😆 How he's competing with HW based on DW, HNY, CE only he knows. 😆

There was this interview during DW times where audience could ask questions...this lady point blank asked him why he's been doing such horrible films and why his films no longer have any story. He actually struggled to answer this question ...in the end he made up BS about competing with HW for technology...standard BS...I wanted to improve VFX because otherwise BW will die, bla bla bla. 😕😆

You can compete with HW without sacrificing the story and this basic concept he doesn't seem to understand.

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