Aamir refused to comment on Zakir Naik - Page 5

IS leader Baghdadi is not from AQ...i think he was in Iraq army .

Originally posted by: angrybread

Well my point is that even if ideology was there but it was suppressed and these people were unable to misuse a religion to justify the atrocities they are committing and lives were not lost ( atleast outside these regions) ...Any blood feud /killing which happened within the region still can't overtake ( in numbers) the amount of people war has killed directly/indirectly .

Why unleash them over the world due to your own greed and may be religious motives ( when you mention GOD all the time while attacking another country - it bloody well makes it religious war for me ) ...let shias and sunnis kill each other in their battle of power and let them sort out their own issues 😕

Originally posted by: angrybread

IS leader Baghdadi is not from AQ...i think he was in Iraq army .

What is different now ??? people are still killing each other and top of them added to western forces bombing etc ...half of Iraq gifted to Iran by western powers and now we have shia militia in place of sunni militia ...nothing has changed apart fro the birth of IS in fact its even worse situation there .

To discredit war for not being the reason behind what's happening now is biased-ness, i want to know how many IS terrorist attacks were there world-wide before war because satistics /numbers speak for them self ???

You need to identify, stop and check the recruiting centers to protect other Islamic countries.

I acknowledge problems in middle east region and the conflict they have and war has not created the ideology but it was there already but my point is that war has unleashed it on the world while earlier it was contained in the region itself ...so yes when i talk about worldwide terrorism i do blame unjust WAR as a reason for it and i sympathise with those millions of people who were killed and their families wiped from the earth and de-stabilized the whole region ...and now everyone got the license to kill each other and yes i do believe BUSH and BLAIR being religious played a part in this decision and i do blame west for licking to saudi and act in their favour .

Originally posted by: angrybread

I acknowledge problems in middle east region and the conflict they have and war has not created the ideology but it was there already but my point is that war has unleashed it on the world while earlier it was contained in the region itself ...so yes when i talk about worldwide terrorism i do blame unjust WAR as a reason for it and i sympathise with those millions of people who were killed and their families wiped from the earth and de-stabilized the whole region ...and now everyone got the license to kill each other and yes i do believe BUSH and BLAIR being religious played a part in this decision and i do blame west for licking to saudi and act in their favour .

he must be keep him out with any nonsence

Originally posted by: Heisenberg32.

And this is precisely why people like him are part of the problem. They bury their heads in the sand, and they effectively mop up for the terrorists.. The terrorists are telling you exactly why they're doing it, and this guy is like, "Don't listen to them, listen to me! Even though I'm like the most un-Islamic guy ever who has no clue about my religion".

And by saying they are not Muslims, what have you achieved? apart from being in denial.

Bang on! I'm so sick of this stupid excuse. 😆

And btw, Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, leader of ISIS has a P.h.D in Islamic studies, so he probably knows more about Islam than Aamir and everyone else who has made this reply in response to Islamic terrorism. 😛

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Today 2 black men were shot down by Cops in US , we all would automatically call it a racist attack given the narrative even though a "White male Cop" can defend it on any basis. Or a white man can deny all he wants how race has nothing to do with it. How billions of whitemen are not killing the blackmen- thats BS. It is happening and it is racism.

Ofcourse the Iraq report will come, yes Blair and Bush were stupid but does anyone really think it would have happened without US biggest ally Saudi Arabia passively supporting it or Iran , who went cold turkey. Yes, deffo , Yemen should also be blamed on Western policies even though the country is torn apart by military conflict between Shais and Sunnis. Naah why bother with the fact that Turks wanted an unstable Syria , Asad and factional wars..who supported ISIS ?

ISIS,Taliban, Militants in Balkans , AQ, Africa ( funny how nobody bothers the mess terrorism in the name of religion ) is causing there because it's not rich, because blacks. Who cares? and so many more. It is a case o religious extremism where they have ended up interpreted and justifying their version of Islam .

But we will blame US, West, everyone yet the root cause of the conflict that is extremism of a religion . When we have terror camps thriving and recruiting rapidly in new countries with full support of the Govts because hey they use the "good terrorists" for the attacks on their rivals.

Is it that tough to understand that religion might not be the fault but it is being abused by fanatics who would and are killing the moderates too for not adhering with the stringent rudimentary version.

Young educated Muslims are tacking up to them, thats a problem - address it , if one wants to rid and protect the name of Islam. As much as I understand a helpless moderate muslim, I don't get see how by ignoring and turning a blind eye to the radicalization will stop the active recruiting.

But we would rather have dictators who would use religion to rein in the regions , encourage sect fighting than democracy because that gives equal rights to everyone. Yup.

As much as one can blame another party for starting a problem, like US for meddling in Middle East and causing issues, it does not give other party an excuse to finish it. Just like you don't have an excuse to kill someone cause someone puts a gun in your hand. So these petty excuses have no basis or moral justification according to me.

I think rather than blaming other people all the time, people should introspect and find a solution to the problems within.

Originally posted by: Deathstroke

ISIS which are like some 00.2/3 % of the 1.6 billion muslim population are following true islam but the rest arent😆If Islam was always like this , all muslims should have been like ISIS

Most Muslims are ignorant about their religious texts and what they say. As for 0.03%, it's still a large number. This means out of 1.6 billion Muslim people, 4.8 million are terrorists. This is not a small number and should be addressed as such.

Originally posted by: anonymous39

[quote]Islam clearly says that one is not allowed to judge a person and his relationship with God and in other area... So anyone questioning or making statements on the Khans is wrong. Islam tells us to focus on ourselves and strengthen our own individual bond.

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Similarly, who are some muslims to say terrorists are *not* muslim? Terrorists are following the koran and interpreting it pretty by the book. Instead of ignoring the violent killing and stoning passages like moderate muslims do, terrorists follow it word for word. So who can point fingers and say "we are muslim but they are not."

Also I find it really wrong and disturbing than whenever the topic of Islamic terrorism comes up, people try to shut down the discussion by saying non-muslims need to "learn" and "read the koran" and "google searches aren't enough" and so on.

To be honest, nobody actually needs to do any of that nor even has the time or desire for it. People react based on what they see in the world. When there is bombing and killing every other day from people resorting to koranic teachings, they are going to form an opinion based on that. No amount of clever lecturing will change the feeling that all this death and violence causes.

Actually this is the No True Scotsman fallacy that is frequently employed by folks who are in denial about the reality and is also a pathetic attempt to exonerate religion. When I was a Muslim, this is what used to bother me most about others' behaviour and I called them out openly(as I still do now). But I used to always be told to shut up and now I am abused cause I (left Islam).

What these people don't understand is now in the Information Age, pretty much everyone has some knowledge about Quran, Hadith and their verses. And no, it's not from Internet sites, due to the 40,000 attacks that occurred in the last decade itself as a result of Islam terrorism, people have taken an active interest in Islam and its teachings. If this is not a red flag, I don't know what is.