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Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo

Okay then let me say it very clearly: I DO know better. My perspective of the industry is not completely from an outsider. I DO know people within the industry who have been exposed to this type of stuff and have many stories to say about it. So no it's not based on my educated guesses. My educated guesses themselves are based on the stories/people I know. A pattern of behaviour can be distinguished to understand what other patterns will look like. This is science as well. Scientists look at a pattern of behaviour amongst the majority or a set group of people and come to the conclusion that all are a certain way. If you look at it any other way, nothing is ever 110% certain. Even science takes work like this.

And exactly, no you did NOT say not hiding equates to flaunting. That is my point. If DP were to engage in such activities, I would think that she would not hide it from RS. That is NOT the same as flaunting. That is just being truthful.

Yes cheating is common. But all your paragraph tells me is that you naively believe it is all that simple. You don't think there are any other bumps in the road on the way to success? People don't genuinely fall in love, people don't have partners who wouldn't want them to engage in such activities? But why don't you tell me why you are so focused on DP-RS. What is it that you want to prove?

Um ok those phrases may sound condescending to you but no in fact I am genuinely saying all of that.😆I mean it, and I don't mean it in a condescending manner, but in "it actually is what it is" manner.

Again, I don't understand the connection between all the assumptions you are making about me with your belief that I am speaking of theories...notice that this is all what YOU think.

The point of the last statement is that people these days are so unwilling to believe things even when there is proof of culture/behaviour simply because they hold this theory that all opinions hold the same weight. That's wrong - if it was true, mental patients would have opinions that the world would take seriously. Yes everyone has a right to an opinion it doesn't mean that all opinions are right or that they all hold the same importance/depth. When you have a valid backing for your opinion then it is admissible. Otherwise it is just conjecture.

You would THINK that she would not hide it from Ranveer- I'm saying it's convenient that you think DP would be truthful in this matter!

And here the 'naive' is again! 😆 now aren't you assuming all that from my paragraph? So when I do it, it's assuming and naive! And when you do it - it's an educated guess or judging! Now how are you so sure there is genuine love going around here- it's what you CHOOSE to believe in!

If you had said 'naive' to one person, it could've been genuine! I'm not counting but there must be 5 people in this thread that you used those phrases on, and that's why I say condescending! You say you are an insider to the industry, you are acting as if you know better which is condescending- wouldn't it be more 'naive' if we actually believed what people on IF claimed? I'm not doubting you I'm just stating a point!

Precisely what I'm saying all along- this is all what YOU think! - an theory or educated guess at best! 😆

Again you are generalising a statement! The things which applies to mental patients and sane ones are totally different! My point was you cannot compare them.

When a person with logics/ proofs against him still decides to believe a certain thing, he is delusional, not schizophrenic! All opinions hold the same weight only applies to people in their sound minds, whether or not how wrong their belief is!

Of course all opinions are not right, but who gets to decide what's right or wrong? This is a virtual forum- when you say you are an insider to the industry am I supposed to start agreeing to your statements? I don't even know you! I'm not assuming the 'agreeing to your statement part', I'm just giving an example! Neither do you have a valid backing (educated guesses or supposedly being an insider don't count) , nor do I! So it's all moot.

We will still come down to 'agree to disagree'

Originally posted by: Patronus

You would THINK that she would not hide it from Ranveer- I'm saying it's convenient that you think DP would be truthful in this matter!

And here the 'naive' is again! 😆 now aren't you assuming all that from my paragraph? So when I do it, it's assuming and naive! And when you do it - it's an educated guess or judging! Now how are you so sure there is genuine love going around here- it's what you CHOOSE to believe in!

If you say to one person, it could've been genuine! I'm not counting but there must be 5 people in this thread that you used those phrases on, and that's why I say condescending!

Precisely what I'm saying all along- this is all what YOU think! - an theory or educated guess at best! 😆

Again you are generalising a statement! The things which applies to mental patients and sane ones are totally different! My point was you cannot compare them.

When a person with logics/ proofs against him still decides to believe a certain thing, he is delusional, not schizophrenic! All opinions hold the same weight only applies to people in their sound minds, whether or not how wrong their belief is!

Of course all opinions are not right, but who gets to decide what's right or wrong? This is a virtual forum- when you say you are an insider to the industry am I supposed to start agreeing to your statements? I don't even know you! Anyways the above thing I wrote, I'm not assuming it, I'm just giving an example! Nor do you have a valid backing (educated guesses don't count) , nor do I! So it's all moot.

We will still come down to 'agree to disagree'

Originally posted by: Patronus

Again reading out of context😆 I didn't say it ONE OF YOUR reasons, I said one of THE reasons! So no I didn't imply I can read your mind!

*facepalm* Are you even reading what I'm saying? I'm not saying sleeping one's way up = wh**es or s**ts! I said when a woman reaches the top of the ladder or gains success it is the perception of PEOPLE, NOT MINE that she is a wh**e or s**t!

Seriously have I forced my opinion on you that it is WRONG? You just wrote it's okay to have different moral standards, but then mock my opinion just because IMO it's wrong? I just clearly wrote that 'using the weapons or tools to achieve success' being wrong or right is a PERSONAL opinion!

Did I imply anywhere that everyone thinks alike or told you to believe what I believe are my moral standards? I stated my reasons for believing so, and didn't tell you to agree with me! Sure go ahead bring the change in society, I'll still stay on my opinion! :)

Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo

Why would it be convenient? Am I benefitting from it somehow?

I'm not assuming, I'm seeing. It is clear from your statements that there is so much you don't know know, and if you knew the realities of this industry - which is far worse than you can imagine - you wouldn't be saying the same things.

LOL oh really? Please do point out where I have used this word with 5 other people. And while you're at it, if you're going to use others as examples, please do shed light on the absolute BS the other people in this thread are throwing out. The same old crap like they don't read above them and see that others have already said the same thing. Maybe, just maybe, behind this computer screen I am a human being who is capable of getting bloody annoyed at these people.

It's NOT what I think, it's what most people KNOW. Look around you. I'm sure you have also seen that thread that is currently running at 60 pages and talking about all of this. Does it really look like I'm the only one who believes this stuff?

I'm not generalizing your statement in any way because I am not using what you said, I am SHARING information that is in response to what you said. I am using my own comparisons, you can use your own.

Um wow it's good that you cleared that was an example and not an assumption, because firstly, I am NOT an insider, and secondly I did not tell you that so you could start "agreeing" with me, I told you that in response to your statement that I am ACTING like I know better. Well I do know better. You don't need to believe it or agree with it, none of that changes reality, it is what it is.

Oh really...who gets to decide which opinions are right are wrong, but you can decide that educational guesses (which is all science is to a certain extent as well) do not count...that's funny.😆

If we all come down to one point why are we still talking? You mentioned this one point in the beginning as well, and yet you're still here. How about I do both of us a favour and not respond further to any messages! Heck, I won't even bother opening this thread again, because it's either gonna be random people dropping in saying the same crap others have already said, or it'll just be a message from you thereby dragging out this so-called argument which is clearly going nowhere.😆

One last point - this argument has deviated SO much...end result is...you don't think PC has slept around...and I think she has...you thought I believed so as a means of putting her down...and I cleared it with you that no that is not why I believe so. I have no reason to put her down. I have different - strong - reasons for believing what I do, and it is not meant to put anyone down - whether it is PC or DP (who has also slept around IMO). Everything after that has been semantics and frankly a waste of both of our times. I will now take the liberty to end this battle of words. See you in another thread another time!

Bye.😃

Sure do keep believing that you know best and most of us here don't know the realities of the world - what do you even say to that because anything I'll say will be be useless since I am 'naive' & detached from this paapi world problems! 😆

I don't really need to point out, I think you have proper eyes to check them out yourself :)

No I don't have any clue about any 60 pages thread! I go to certain topics, not every topic! Not keep on with every discussion going on in other threads.

No I don't get to decide, but since we talked of valid backing - 'guessing' couldn't be included hence that is that! :)

I had suggested to 'agree to disagree' but since you continued the argument, I don't think I would've been able to back out without a proper response!

PS- No the point is you never even got my point! I did not even come near to the point whether PC slept for favours or not- I wouldn't know. My point was since she just achieved her success, what was the point of suddenly crediting her success to sleeping around? Of course you said you didn't do it to pull her down, but it surely did look like that. If we talk about educational guesses, everyone has seen enough of PC's hard work & passion for us to believe what we can credit her success to! And just because I stated different reasons for believing what I did, you started calling me 'naive' which is why the whole condescending argument started! Don't mix my posts with others, we never even talked about who slept more with people or what not! I started with the DP point only because you gave her the benefit of doubt of not sleeping around in HW, and not to PC.

I'm done for the day too- Seriously Bye bye!

Originally posted by: .Pandora.

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">"Are you even reading what I'm saying?" :| And I am mocking your opinion? I thought this is a discussion forum and we are allowed to exchange our thoughts? And no, I am not reading out of context. All I am doing is point out how you yourself are encouraging such stereotypes indirectly by pointing out time and again how people and society THINK.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">You claim it's the perception of people. You generalize when I am also one of those "PEOPLE". Thus, I objected and made it clear it isn't the same for all.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">You seem rattled for no reason when my intention was to have two way exchange of opinions. So I am done. It seems futile now.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">And yeh, society changes with such discussions. I WILL continue trying. Thanks :)</font>

I repeated the exact SAME thing twice- that is why 'are you reading what I'm saying' ? Basically it looked like you were skimming over the post, singling out comments without context which is why the above line- don't know how that's mocking? I am encouraging stereotypes? You really think people would come here, read my post and decide what they feel? 😆 Im just stating facts, like you are- people on the forum should stop talking if stating the truth means encouraging steorytypes! You just said its a forum for exchanging thoughts!

Where did I even say it is the same for ALL? I said one of THE reasons, for somebody it will be for somebody it will not! Really not getting what you are trying to say! 😕 you really are singling out the comments, you made it a generalisation, I did not.

Firstly, I don't think you can read our mind and secondly, it's you ONLY that is putting PC down by equating sleeping one's way up

^ Check out your comments! You seem pretty rattled too! It cannot be a two way exchange of opinions if you jump on the other person's opinions and sign
them off as wrong in the first comment itself! :)

Have a good day/night- Bye bye!

The sad reality is that most people do sleep around in BW, something most people here absolutely fail to believe or understand which I find completely amusing & hilarious. Most actresses definitely do/have done the same, well know that. But it doesn't matter whoever they sleep with, they need to back it up with talent & hard work, both of which PC has in spades!!! It's hard to keep her down for long & she is willing to do absolutely ANYTHING for her career!!!! For all her faults, there is something so admirable when it comes to her drive & ambition, about PC, I just love her!!! <3 She's become my favourite this past year.


But sadly most people on this forum really do not understand BW or it's realities, I was just accused of being "obsessed with sexual orientation" on another thread, when the topic was about the same & I was only reiterating rumours.. People here only know how to mock & point fingers & laugh & after a point it's actually horrifying how we don't bat an eyelid at these same stars committing murder /supporting terrorism or being abusive husbands & people, but God forbid you mention even rumours of sharing beds with the same sex & sleeping for roles & the mockery & virtual bullets are shot!!


Now, I don't mean you at all here, Pat, I've interacted with you so I know this, but it's been my observation since long about this forum. Clearly having an open discussion or sharing "gossips filled with lies" doesn't help. I reckon nothing will.. So best to keep One's mouth shut & pretend that all are nice little workers doing jagrans at night & pressing pati/Mummy/Daddy's feet at night because it's so much easier believing that.


OT: PC looks SUPER hot in those black leather pants!!! Daaamn! Her body!! *drrroools*

All said and done I just think it's unfair for Zeelicious to say Priyanka is only doing well compared to Deepika in Hollywood because she's ready to compromise and Deepika isn't. It definitely takes a lot more than that to do well in Hollywood and how do you know Deepika hasn't already compromised? Anyone can sleep around but this isn't enough to make it big. To bring this up when everyone was praising Priyanka and joking about Deepika in that other thread just seemed really petty. This whole discussion is really unnecessary.

Love her black outfit and heels. Thanks for sharing.