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Posted: 9 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo


Do you think the world revolves around Priyanka? Do you think she is the first one to sleep around? The only one? The last one? Not even close. Priyanka is just one of the MANY actresses who sleeps around or has slept around for favours.
Did you read what I wrote?
If 'Sleeping' is the only way through which PC got it big in HW or BW then you are wrong. Because if that would have been the case anyone could have entered that industry

If you had ANY knowledge whatsoever not about Priyanka but about the dirty industry you would be AWARE that the biggies promise favours for sex but many don't keep their promises and so potential actors and actresses don't make it IN HW.
Again
If 'Sleeping' is the only way through which PC got it big in HW or BW then you are wrong. Because if that would have been the case anyone could have entered that industry.
Something known as hardwork, stardom, past full of glory and career full of highs and talent

So how about you cut down the bullshit and simply go open your eyes and do some bloody research! Thanks!
How about you read what I wrote! Its not about sleeping but equating ones success to sleeping around and bringing one's success to that level

P.S. This "my favourite" versus "your favourite" small thinking needs to stop 'cause it's absolute BS and I have answered this part in detail on another post because it's intended for many of you.
P.P.S. Don't kid yourself, people BIGGER than PC have engaged in such stuff and more.

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Posted: 9 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Patronus

^ You say I'm naive to think PC doesn't have time to sleep around, and then say DP has barely stepped in HW to sleep for favours? How do you know she hasn't had the chance yet? Why does she even have to tell Ranveer if she is sleeping around? Nobody goes around flaunting their sleeping for favours! 😆


You know what there is no point - the essays are going to get longer, and it's going to get harder to keep up! Nor are you going to back down, nor am I!


You don't need to believe anything I say. I have my opinion and you have yours. But do a little research about the ways of the industry before forming opinions about it.

I didn't judge you on your opinions, nor should you judge me on what I believe! You need to read my posts above before telling me to go do research- stop being so condescending just because I don't agree with you ! I nowhere did say these things don't happen in the industry, but sue me for having a glass full approach towards people, that doesn't make me "naive" it makes me an optimist whether you approve of it or not. 😃 You could all the research you want, you can never be sure about anything! Its all going to come down to what part we choose to believe in.


I don't understand how you're connecting those two things? One is about time, and the other is about entering the industry itself. How do I know? I simply don't know. I don't act like I know every single thing these actors/actresses do, but based on patterns I make educated guesses about what I believe they're doing generally. Why is this about DP now? I don't get what point YOU'RE trying to make.

(Side note: Um, because she is in a steady relationship with Ranveer? And "not hiding" your actions doesn't equate to "flaunting" your actions.)

You're being naive again. We all judge each other, whether it is consciously or subconsciously. However, I'm not judging you for what you believe in (despite what you assume), I'm judging that based on your posts you are not fully aware of the ways of the industry. Nowhere did I say or imply that you aren't aware AT ALL.

Honestly, all I can say is that if you think I'm being condescending that's your opinion, your right to it, and your problem. 😆 Doesn't say anything about me.

Naive...optimism...they're all from the same cup. Have I indicated anywhere that I believe you need my approval? You sure do a hell of a lot of assuming.

You can't be sure about research when it leads you to a theory, not when it leads you to facts. You can be as optimistic as you want, it won't change the fact that no matter how you see the glass - half full or half empty - there is water in it. If what we believed in - no matter what the belief is - is all that mattered then schizophrenics would have a field day.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#53

I'm sorry, who said it's the ONLY way she's managed to become successful? There's a LOT of things that go behind success. It's never just one thing.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#54
😆😆 Lol @ the derailment! Haters tried it, bless your heart.
When a woman is doing great like Priyanka Chopra is doing right now, it is no surprise jealous haters will try to take away her hard work by calling the ultimate W card. It cannot be that careful planning determination & YES TALENT have a lot to do with her success. Oh no. It was handed to her right. 🤪

Is she in the right place @ the right time? Yes. Does she have a great team working with her to make things happen? Yes. But it takesgreat wit & fearlesness to see a good occasion & act upon it. It takes great talent to sustain & build a great network.
Some DP fans are still burning because PC spit out their fav in Bajirao Mastani, so they talk & tell on themselves. Let not even start with dear Mata ka Pr shenanigans. Pure nonsense.

PC is queen & she is WINNING right now & more should come her way. Haters SEETHE. 😎
I love the ad & she looks bombastic.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: BollyFanLuver

<font color="#009999">😆😆Lol @ the derailment! Haters tried it, bless your heart.</font>

<font color="#009999">When a woman is doing great like Priyanka Chopra is doing right now, it is no surprise jealous haters will try to take away her hard work by calling the ultimate W card. It cannot be that careful planning determination & YES TALENT have a lot to do with her success. Oh no. It was handed to her right. 🤪</font>

<font color="#009999">Is she in the right place @ the right time? Yes. Does she have a great team working with her to make things happen? Yes. But it takesgreat wit & fearlesness to see a good occasion & act upon it. It takes great talent to sustain & build a great network.</font>
<font color="#009999">Some DP fans are still burning because PC spit out their fav in Bajirao Mastani, so they talk & tell on themselves. Let not even start with dear Mata ka Pr shenanigans. Pure nonsense.</font>

<font color="#009999">PC is queen & she is WINNING right now & more should come her way. Haters SEETHE. 😎</font>
<font color="#009999">I love the ad & she looks bombastic.</font>



What is it with you lot? You come blazing with dumb posts without even reading my posts. Is it really so unfathomable to you that people can have an opinion about others without being a hater or a DP fan? Do you all really think that small?

Jesus on top of that you all say the same thing when everything you're saying has already been answered by me posts ago. Blind or selectively blind?

You know your argument is weak when you have to create a "DP vs PC" conflict in order to prove why it's impossible that anybody can believe that PC sleeps around as well. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Patronus



Of course it's ONE of the reasons, not the only reason- her history with married men is another! And there might be others too.

I didn't say sleeping around = s**ts & wh**es! I said it's the perspective of people that when a woman reaches success to the top of the ladder is because she is a s**t or wh**e!

Whether using tools or weapons other than your talent to get to your ambition is right or wrong is a personal opinion. I have my different beliefs, doesn't make them any wrong.



How can you be sure "Ofcourse it's ONE of the reasons"? Firstly, I don't think you can read our mind and secondly, it's you ONLY that is putting PC down by equating sleeping one's way up = Perception that one is a wh**e or a s**t. For me, it isn't !!!! So no, it's isn't ONE of the reasons.

It would be ONE of the reasons if I considered anything wrong with using your body to aim higher. People use their brain and no one has any issue. But if someone uses their body, it's WRONG? :| Brain, body or any part of an individual is one's choice. They can use anything to become successful. It's the perception and assumption that everyone thinks alike is the problem. I do not think seizing an opportunity negates anyone's talent. What we see on screen is sheer TALENT. Sleeping around isn't going to make anyone TALENTED at least when it comes to acting.

As for the bolded and personal opinion. Sure. We are allowed to have different moral standards. But I sincerely believe the above perception needs to change and we should do away from looking down on others who have their own way to success. SUCCESS and TALENT speaks regardless of how it's achieved!
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Posted: 9 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: Patronus



Things do have a way of coming out- sometimes early sometimes later! Nothing is hidden here: Case in point: KR HR drama!


It's all claims right? Nobody can ever surely say anything here- if you would've read the below the part I've written why a 'maybe' for Deepika & why a surety for PC?
I am asking why she thought so? I am all for personal opinions and nowhere mentioned that she doesn't have the right to think what she thinks! Why are you singling out particular lines in the whole post? It should be read in context. 🤔



Really? KR HR drama instead just proves one will never know for sure what goes behind the camera !! No one, yes NO ONE has access to personal information of these actors. Only thing audience has access to are assumptions and speculations. "Nothing is hidden" is nothing but a forced defense here.

As for DP vs PC argument, FOR ME: Both may have had made compromises to reach where they are today. Whether they did or not is up for grabs. And to what extent they have done it, again it's an individual speculation. But it would be naive to think they have a clean streak. Both did what they had to for their ambition and goals !!!!

I am not singling out anything. I did read it in context, just didn't think I should quote the entire response when I wanted to specifically point out certain bits :|
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Posted: 9 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo



I don't understand how you're connecting those two things? One is about time, and the other is about entering the industry itself. How do I know? I simply don't know. I don't act like I know every single thing these actors/actresses do, but based on patterns I make educated guesses about what I believe they're doing generally. Why is this about DP now? I don't get what point YOU'RE trying to make.

(Side note: Um, because she is in a steady relationship with Ranveer? And "not hiding" your actions doesn't equate to "flaunting" your actions.)

You're being naive again. We all judge each other, whether it is consciously or subconsciously. However, I'm not judging you for what you believe in (despite what you assume), I'm judging that based on your posts you are not fully aware of the ways of the industry. Nowhere did I say or imply that you aren't aware AT ALL.

Honestly, all I can say is that if you think I'm being condescending that's your opinion, your right to it, and your problem.😆Doesn't say anything about me.

Naive...optimism...they're all from the same cup. Have I indicated anywhere that I believe you need my approval? You sure do a hell of a lot of assuming.

You can't be sure about research when it leads you to a theory, not when it leads you to facts. You can be as optimistic as you want, it won't change the fact that no matter how you see the glass - half full or half empty - there is water in it. If what we believed in - no matter what the belief is - is all that mattered then schizophrenics would have a field day.



You are acting as if you do know better, and those who don't are the ones "naive" & the ones who "need to do research" . All based on your educated guesses.

'Just entered the industry' was equated to she has not been there in the industry for enough time - that was the connection with time! Erm did I say 'not hiding' equates to 'flaunting' I said she obviously wouldn't flaunt off her 'sleeping for favours' for it to reach Ranveer's ears! Why would a steady relationship be any sort of hindrance for a person who's end goal is success! If somebody really wants to sleep their way to success, why would they even care about a steady relationship- now would you call yourself 'naive' too for assuming a steady relationship can stop 'sleeping for favours ' happening? BW is a big bad place like you said, cheating is common isn't it?

'You are naive' , 'you need to research' 'You are not fully aware of the ways of the industry'

If that's not condescending I don't know what is- I don't even how to have an argument with these thrown at me? How do you even hold an argument, when the opposite person think they know better through educated guesses, and the others who don't agree are naive!

I assume a lot sure , because you are talking about theories not facts! And looking at a theory is through perspective which is through assumption- so there goes.

If what we believed in - no matter what the belief is - is all that mattered then schizophrenics would have a field day.

^ I really don't get the point of this statement? As far as I know, you & I both don't have any brain disorder (I am trying to be technically correct, no offence to anybody) when I say 'what part we choose to believe' I'm not trying to imply one of is delusional? I said since we can never know everything, it's going to be a personal opinion on what we choose to believe! A statement I said was said for sane individuals (again no offence to anybody, if I'm phrasing it wrong) , it obviously wouldn't apply to mental patients.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Pandora.


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How can you be sure "Ofcourse it's ONE of the reasons"? Firstly, I don't think you can read our mind and secondly, it's you ONLY that is putting PC down by equating sleeping one's way up = Perception that one is a wh**e or a s**t. For me, it isn't !!!! So no, it's isn't ONE of the reasons.

It would be ONE of the reasons if I considered anything wrong with using your body to aim higher. People use their brain and no one has any issue. But if someone uses their body, it's WRONG? :| Brain, body or any part of an individual is one's choice. They can use anything to become successful. It's the perception and assumption that everyone thinks alike is the problem. I do not think seizing an opportunity negates anyone's talent. What we see on screen is sheer TALENT. Sleeping around isn't going to make anyone TALENTED at least when it comes to acting.

As for the bolded and personal opinion. Sure. We are allowed to have different moral standards. But I sincerely believe the above perception needs to change and we should do away from looking down on others who have their own way to success. SUCCESS and TALENT speaks regardless of how it's achieved!</font>



Again reading out of context😆 I didn't say it ONE OF YOUR reasons, I said one of THE reasons! So no I didn't imply I can read your mind!

*facepalm* Are you even reading what I'm saying? I'm not saying sleeping one's way up = wh**es or s**ts! I said when a woman reaches the top of the ladder or gains success it is the perception of PEOPLE, NOT MINE that she is a wh**e or s**t!

Seriously have I forced my opinion on you that it is WRONG? You just wrote it's okay to have different moral standards, but then mock my opinion just because IMO it's wrong? I just clearly wrote that 'using the weapons or tools to achieve success' being wrong or right is a PERSONAL opinion!

Did I imply anywhere that everyone thinks alike or told you to believe what I believe are my moral standards? I stated my reasons for believing so, and didn't tell you to agree with me! Sure go ahead bring the change in society, I'll still stay on my opinion! :)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Patronus



You are acting as if you do know better, and those who don't are the ones "naive" & the ones who "need to do research" . All based on your educated guesses.

'Just entered the industry' was equated to she has not been there in the industry for enough time - that was the connection with time! Erm did I say 'not hiding' equates to 'flaunting' I said she obviously wouldn't flaunt off her 'sleeping for favours' for it to reach Ranveer's ears! Why would a steady relationship be any sort of hindrance for a person who's end goal is success! If somebody really wants to sleep their way to success, why would they even care about a steady relationship- now would you call yourself 'naive' too for assuming a steady relationship can stop 'sleeping for favours ' happening? BW is a big bad place like you said, cheating is common isn't it?

'You are naive' , 'you need to research' 'You are not fully aware of the ways of the industry'

If that's not condescending I don't know what is- I don't even how to have an argument with these thrown at me? How do you even hold an argument, when the opposite person think they know better through educated guesses, and the others who don't agree are naive!

I assume a lot sure , because you are talking about theories not facts! And looking at a theory is through perspective which is through assumption- so there goes.

If what we believed in - no matter what the belief is - is all that mattered then schizophrenics would have a field day.

^ I really don't get the point of this statement? As far as I know, you & I both don't have any brain disorder (I am trying to be technically correct, no offence to anybody) when I say 'what part we choose to believe' I'm not trying to imply one of is delusional? I said since we can never know everything, it's going to be a personal opinion on what we choose to believe! A statement I said was said for sane individuals (again no offence to anybody, if I'm phrasing it wrong) , it obviously wouldn't apply to mental patients.


Okay then let me say it very clearly: I DO know better. My perspective of the industry is not completely from an outsider's perspective. I DO know people within the industry who have been exposed to this type of stuff and have many stories to say about it. So no it's not based on my educated guesses. My educated guesses themselves are based on the stories/people I know. A pattern of behaviour can be distinguished to understand what other patterns will look like. This is science as well. Scientists look at a pattern of behaviour amongst the majority or a set group of people and come to the conclusion that all are a certain way. If you look at it any other way, nothing is ever 110% certain. Even science takes work like this.

And exactly, no you did NOT say not hiding equates to flaunting. That is my point. If DP were to engage in such activities, I would think that she would not hide it from RS. That is NOT the same as flaunting. That is just being truthful.

Yes cheating is common. But all your paragraph tells me is that you naively believe it is all that simple. You don't think there are any other bumps in the road on the way to success? People don't genuinely fall in love, people don't have partners who wouldn't want them to engage in such activities? But why don't you tell me why you are so focused on DP-RS. What is it that you want to prove?

Um ok those phrases may sound condescending to you but no in fact I am genuinely saying all of that. 😆 I mean it, and I don't mean it in a condescending manner, but in "it actually is what it is" manner.

Again, I don't understand the connection between all the assumptions you are making about me with your belief that I am speaking of theories...notice that this is all what YOU think.

The point of the last statement is that people these days are so unwilling to believe things even when there is proof of culture/behaviour simply because they hold this theory that all opinions hold the same weight. That's wrong - if it was true, mental patients would have opinions that the world would take seriously. Yes everyone has a right to an opinion it doesn't mean that all opinions are right or that they all hold the same importance/depth. When you have a valid backing for your opinion then it is admissible. Otherwise it is just conjecture.

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