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Posted: 11 years ago
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And I thought you were a shareef bacchi😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

@gameon: True. Pulkit apparently turned down some good roles by asking for a price of Rs. 3 crore. That, when he hasn't got a single solo hit to his credit, nor the popularity. Then he goes on to do stuff like Jai Ho and O Teri. O Teri wasn't even promoted well. It is easy to understand that makers don't have confidence in the film when the first promos are of Salman's item song rather than promos trying to give an idea of what the film is about.

But one thing out of this is that he is getting more media mileage cos of the Salman associatio. Salman's managers have also got him quite a few ads. He comes in Sprite as well as the Airtel ads. He needs to choose films carefully. Not just backing but good choices are important to make it big.


Some good points there. I will tell you my views on them.

I didn't know about the 3cr thing. I still cant understand how they released O Teri. A guy who will view it for the first time can easily tell you it has nothing which will draw the audience to the theatre. No comedy, no story and very very illogical. It had flopped written all over it before it even released. Small production houses can make such a mistake but this wasn't expected from Salman's production house.
Atul agnithori had done the same with Hello. Salman had a small role in the movie like a extended guest appearance but they promoted the whole movie on him. Even if One Night At call centre was the best seller, they couldn't bring that out in promotions.

Mesdia coverage is not everything. He is not that big that people will remember him. Its more of a promotion of salman khan rather than pulkit. Its like when big company acquires small company, nobody cares about the small company. They want to where will the big company go now. Today it will be pulkit, yesterday it was arjun and tomorrow it will be rinzing. However, Salman's names will be the one appearing in all the 3.
Surviving on ads is like the worst place an actor can fall after doing movies. Even Anuhka sharma said that before debut she had lots of ad offers but she was very selective because no one would take her in movies if she would appear in many ads. When salman, SRK, amitabh do an ad, they do it because they can sell the product by only appearing. When small actors like pulkit do, its just that you see a familiar face and not an unknown one.
Feel free to disagree and let me know your opinion as well. 😊
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And I thought you were a shareef bacchi😆


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sabko pata hai,i liked GM😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Pulkit case is different
He had a huge spat with Ekta kapoor during Kyunki days. It was the time when Ekta ruled the roost and ruthlessly slave drove her actors.
Pulkit had no chance anywhere because he pulled a VO on Ekta and went on to sue her.

He was dating mouni roy then I think.

He managed to turn things around by dating and later marrying someone, who is neihbour to Salman and is mooh boli behen of him.

he basically had no choice. Ekta Camp ruined him. he turned to Salman camp for survival. He was untouchable in TV world when during that 2008-2009 period

And all that he is now, grooming, everything is due to Salman. So I don't think he has much choice in staying on S Camp, right now, when he is not at all established.
His first movie Bitto Boss happened because of Salman and it vanished completely. but it gave him some recognition.

Right now his very existence he owes to Salman
Edited by LeadNitrate - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: gameon


Some good points there. I will tell you my views on them.

I didn't know about the 3cr thing. I still cant understand how they released O Teri. A guy who will view it for the first time can easily tell you it has nothing which will draw the audience to the theatre. No comedy, no story and very very illogical. It had flopped written all over it before it even released. Small production houses can make such a mistake but this wasn't expected from Salman's production house.
Atul agnithori had done the same with Hello. Salman had a small role in the movie like a extended guest appearance but they promoted the whole movie on him. Even if One Night At call centre was the best seller, they couldn't bring that out in promotions.

Mesdia coverage is not everything. He is not that big that people will remember him. Its more of a promotion of salman khan rather than pulkit. Its like when big company acquires small company, nobody cares about the small company. They want to where will the big company go now. Today it will be pulkit, yesterday it was arjun and tomorrow it will be rinzing. However, Salman's names will be the one appearing in all the 3.
Surviving on ads is like the worst place an actor can fall after doing movies. Even Anuhka sharma said that before debut she had lots of ad offers but she was very selective because no one would take her in movies if she would appear in many ads. When salman, SRK, amitabh do an ad, they do it because they can sell the product by only appearing. When small actors like pulkit do, its just that you see a familiar face and not an unknown one.
Feel free to disagree and let me know your opinion as well. 😊



Nothing to disagree. I agree with all your points actually.

The point I was trying to make was, probably Pulkit considers that 'something' is better than 'nothing'? This guy was literally over after his fight with Ekta and the flopping of Bittoo Boss. His popularity as Lakshya in Kyunki had waned.. no one remembered him anymore. All he had was a small budget film called Fukrey in which there were 4 guys. He used the Salman association to get more media mileage in that crowd, people don't really remember the name of the others in the movie now.

Whatever he is getting to make now is better in comparison to the time before he had Salman's support- he is making money at least and getting some kind of exposure. Of course, ads and appearances are short term benefit only- his eventual career will take shape depending on the films he chooses to do, and he's spoiling it by doing stuff like Jai Ho and O Teri and asking for 3 crores when a director like Sudhir Mishra offers him a role. Salman's managers can just lobby around and provide him with opportunities but he has to make the ultimate decision- Sonakshi and Kat chose well so they are doing well today.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: LeadNitrate

Pulkit case is different

He had a huge spat with Ekta kapoor during Kyunki days. It was the time when Ekta ruled the roost and ruthlessly slave drove her actors.
Pulkit had no chance anywhere because he pulled a VO on Ekta and went on to sue her.

He was dating mouni roy then I think.

He managed to turn things around by dating and later marrying someone, who is neihbour to Salman and is mooh boli behen of him.

he basically had no choice. Ekta Camp ruined him. he turned to Salman camp for survival. He was untouchable in TV world when during that 2008-2009 period

And all that he is now, grooming, everything is due to Salman. So I don't think he has much choice in staying on S Camp, right now, when he is not at all established.
His first movie Bitto Boss happened because of Salman and it vanished completely. but it gave him some recognition.

Right now his very existence he owes to Salman

yeah this is what i wanted to say...u have said it all ...
apparently, this guy has ruined his career by taking panga with ekta kapoor and we all thought he is never gonna be seen even on any screen...but thanks to his close rishta later with salman who gave him all recognition oderwise he wud have been nowhere.
this guy is lucky dat he came across salman else u wudnt have knwn him ever

Edited by niksidfan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Its a well crafted strategy and many things work here . Its a win win situation for both salman and wingwala/protege.

1. The list is endless of how salman is guide or took them wing etc. starting from Hitrik , sonakshi , arjun , varun so on so forth. The important thing we may miss here is all of them belonged to bollywood family bcoz i hardly see any outsider get such previlage of claiming and associating with brand salman.

2. The next is association of bollywood family work to an extent like a mother brand and sub brand when we relate them which family they belongs. Then the sub brand have to carve its own path. So when they claim they are close to an established brand like salman who have own USP so also fan following that establish them in viewer mind to an extent. Like people/viewer take attention of that new brand , so also fan favour when the new brand is of same group or atleast overlook flaws.

3. This is case of win win situation. For salman his image of how generous he is , how he help other in making career , large hearted etc. cemented , so also cater his ego . As salman have this image so it further help his own brand thats why we never heard such things on SRK AK etc. bcoz no one will believe if a star kid claim so. It also help the new comer when a new brand associate with already a well established brand. Salman also work as influencer in vierwer mind when they weather choose or reject the new brand. In simple term Its like a free ad without explicitly saying he endorse them. So it is nothing new like even if salman give a single line advice then also they will claim how salman took them under his wing etc. etc. Its just a way of establishing the brand name in existing lot .
Edited by Bazigar - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc



Nothing to disagree. I agree with all your points actually.

The point I was trying to make was, probably Pulkit considers that 'something' is better than 'nothing'? This guy was literally over after his fight with Ekta and the flopping of Bittoo Boss. His popularity as Lakshya in Kyunki had waned.. no one remembered him anymore. All he had was a small budget film called Fukrey in which there were 4 guys. He used the Salman association to get more media mileage in that crowd, people don't really remember the name of the others in the movie now.

Whatever he is getting to make now is better in comparison to the time before he had Salman's support- he is making money at least and getting some kind of exposure. Of course, ads and appearances are short term benefit only- his eventual career will take shape depending on the films he chooses to do, and he's spoiling it by doing stuff like Jai Ho and O Teri and asking for 3 crores when a director like Sudhir Mishra offers him a role. Salman's managers can just lobby around and provide him with opportunities but he has to make the ultimate decision- Sonakshi and Kat chose well so they are doing well today.


Sonakshi was intelligent and choose good scripts. Katrina was extremely lucky. Akshay made her. But yes like you said its more of a case of something better than nothing for Pulkit. If salman is actually trying to make this guy's career then he himself should stop getting him small roles in big movies like Jai Ho. Anyways its their family and they will do whatever they feel like.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bazigar

Its a well crafted strategy and many things work here . Its a win win situation for both salman and wingwala

1. The list is endless of how salman is guide or took them wing etc. starting from Hitrik , sonakshi , arjun , varun so on so forth. The important thing we may miss here is all of them belonged to bollywood family bcoz i hardly see any outsider get such previlage of claiming and associating with brand salman.

2. The next is association of bollywood family work to an extent like a mother brand and sub brand when we relate them which family they belongs. Then the sub brand have to carve its own path. So when they claim they are close to an established brand like salman who have own USP so also fan following that establish them in viewer mind to an extent. Like people/viewer take attention of that new brand , so also fan favour when the new brand is of same group or atleast overlook flaws.

3. This is case of win win situation. For salman his image of how generous he is , how he help other in making career , large hearted etc. cemented , so also cater his ego . As salman have this image so it further help his own brand thats why we never heard such things on SRK AK etc. bcoz no one will believe if a star kid claim so. It also help the new comer when a new brand associate with already a well established brand. So it is nothing new like even if salman give a single line advice then also they will claim how salman took them under his wing etc. etc. Its just a way of establishing the brand name in existing lot .


couldn't have said it any better. 100% agree.

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