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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: zarak65

^ lol so ur saying that ranveers struggle is not the same as other people struggling because he came for a well off family? And so to struggle u have to be for a middle class family?

Ranveer didn't have contacts that he cud use to get a film, and he did have to audition like stars like Srk, sushant and irfan to get a role in a movie. In no way did ranveer use his dad's money to get his break.

But how did soam and ranbir get to assist such a big director like SLB? Because they came from the kapoor families

Yes he was lucky to get recognised by Shanoo, but how does that not make him an outsider?



He got launched by YRF just like Arjun by same casting director. She didn't know he was Boney's son. Both got selected through auditions. So how are they any different? Salman helped him to lose his weight and didn't recommend him to YRF or anything. That's all. Getting rejected in few auditions before must have been those huge struggles. He's not a proper outsider 'cos he's a) related to Sonam b) dated Ahana and had connections. Maybe that didn't help him to get a film. Neither did it for Arjun.

How did Sid get to assist Kjo then? He didn't come from a big family. You can make such assumptions all day.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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He got launched by YRF just like Arjun by same casting director. She didn't know he was Boney's son. Both got selected through auditions. So how are they any different? Salman helped him to lose his weight and didn't recommend him to YRF or anything. That's all. Getting rejected in few auditions before must have been those huge struggles. He's not a proper outsider 'cos he's a) related to Sonam b) dated Ahana and had connections. Maybe that didn't help him to get a film. Neither did it for Arjun.

How did Sid get to assist Kjo then? He didn't come from a big family. You can make such assumptions all day.


So ur saying siddarth is not an outsider?
And this whole thing of ranveer being related to sonam is bought about because people think he part of the kapoor family, when he is not, he is from her moms side so how does that help in any way?

When I talk about being an outsider I mean not growing up in the industry or with people from the industry and knowing them personally. Arjun grew up with the bachans, ranbir kapoors family, varun dhawan, he was friends with the families and knew everyone personally and would meet them regularly
Ranveer didn't know anyone from the industry personally and hadn't met anyone, he knew ahana from school and just knew he was related to sonam in some way. If he knew the kapoor family personally then his first meeting with arjun wouldn't have been at yrf studios when they were well into thier twenties.
Edited by zarak65 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I initially thought that Ranveer had to beg YRF for an audition but Shanoo Sharma referred him to Aditya Chopra so Ranveer's technically not a complete outsider since his connections helped him land his first film. Also apparently Arjun Kapoor sucked his first audition but they lied on KWK saying he nailed it. Somethings fishy about how they were launched by YRF for sure...
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Originally posted by: zarak65


So ur saying siddarth is not an outsider?
And this whole thing of ranveer being related to sonam is bought about because people hunk he part of the kapoor family, when he is not, he is from her moms side so how does that help in any way?

When I talk about being an outsider I mean not growing up in the industry or with people from the industry and knowing them personally. Arjun grew up with the bachans, ranbir kapoors family, varun dhawan, he was friends with the families and knew everyone personally and would meet them regularly
Ranveer didn't know anyone from the industry personally and hadn't met anyone, he knew ahana from school and just knew he was related to sonam in some way. If he knew the kapoor family personally then his first meeting with arjun wouldn't have been at yrf studios when they were well into thier twenties.




Sid is an outsider, but he also had a mentor in Kjo ala SLB for Kapoors. Knowing all of them didn't make any difference to Arjun's career as he came up the same way as Ranveer. Having connections always help. It did help Ranveer right? Else he wouldn't have got the call from lady. So yes, his rich background and partying in those circles did help him to meet her. Same lady didn't even recognize Arjun and even hated him when he was fat(you must have seen KWK episode). It'll be totally different for a person coming from rural area in Bihar or UP to get these connections in first place. So if you call Ranveer outsider, I don't know what to call them.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Parko

I initially thought that Ranveer had to beg YRF for an audition but Shanoo Sharma referred him to Aditya Chopra so Ranveer's technically not a complete outsider and since his connections helped him land his first film. Also apparently Arjun Kapoor sucked his first audition but they lied on KWK saying he nailed it. Somethings fishy about how they were launched by YRF for sure...


But how does that take away front the fact that ranveer did struggle and audition for roles and was rejected many times. Watch his India's most desirable episode and u will hear what he went through.
Also he didn't have connections with Shanoo, Shanoo remembered him and asked him to come for an audition.
Edited by zarak65 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Parko

I initially thought that Ranveer had to beg YRF for an audition but Shanoo Sharma referred him to Aditya Chopra so Ranveer's technically not a complete outsider since his connections helped him land his first film. Also apparently Arjun Kapoor sucked his first audition but they lied on KWK saying he nailed it. Somethings fishy about how they were launched by YRF for sure...


Exactly. Connections are the key. That's what helps star kids too. They' are aware of your existence if you are born in a star family. But no one takes a chance with you just because of surname if they know you're not good enough. Except for the ones launched by family members of course.



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sid is an outsider, but he also had a mentor in Kjo ala SLB for Kapoors. Knowing all of them didn't make any difference to Arjun's career as he came up the same way as Ranveer. Having connections always help. It did help Ranveer right? Else he wouldn't have got the call from lady. So yes, his rich background and partying in those circles did help him to meet her. Same lady didn't even recognize Arjun and even hated him when he was fat(you must have seen KWK episode). It'll be totally different for a person coming from rural area in Bihar or UP to get these connections in first place. So if you call Ranveer outsider, I don't know what to call them.


So then that doesn't make siddarth an outsider either, he was a model in Mumbai when he started out, he was also in those circles and because of that he got the opputintjy to be part of Karan's dharma productions. And it was because of his connections with karan johar that got to act in a karan johar directed movie
Or how about even deepika, she was a model In Mumbai aswell and she also said in rajeevs round table that she never had to audition because farha discovered her, even salman discovered her before farha and wanted her in his movie, she didn't even have to struggle.
Everyone needs to create contacts and be discovered to get the opportunity to be part of bollywood, may that be by struggling and auditioning

I think u are confusing being discovered with growing up in the industry, which ranveer didn't grow up in the industry

Yes arjun didn't use his dad's help, but the fact is he cud have used his dad to launch him, ranveer didn't have that opportunity. Which makes him an outsider.
Edited by zarak65 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Arjun probably had a much worse relationship with his dad than Ranveer ever did. Well, Ranveer could have used his dad's money to produce a film then. 😆 At least they were on good terms. Ifs and buts.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: scorpio_bins

Arjun probably had a much worse relationship with his dad than Ranveer ever did. Well, Ranveer could have used his dad's money to produce a film then. 😆 At least they were on good terms. Ifs and buts.


Well if it was that easy then why did he struggle so much, why go through all that when ur dad can produce a movie for u? It's not as simple as having money that allows someone to make a movie.
Whatever Arjun's relationship with his dad is, the fact is his dad is a movie producer and cud have made a movie for him, like he is now.
Edited by zarak65 - 11 years ago
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Yea, when he is a star now. Arjun had far bigger struggles in life and grew up with a single mom. He got here on his own as well and had to go through tough times with her illness. That's the only advantage he got from being Boney Kapoor's son. Don't see how he that has helped him at all. While you're glorifying Ranveer's struggles and belittling his due to a surname. :D Yes, i do respect Arjun for making it on his own despite all this. Arjun was discovered too using your same logic.
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