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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Sean


Okay you might know a bit more about Hinduism but again, Sikhism is just like Islam a monotheistic religion and that's one of the main principles for Sikhs, it doesn't come in other forms like Hinduism.. So it pretty much answers your own question how Sikhs are different.



that's my whole point, monotheism is one of the main principles of Dvaita Vedanta, so how's that any different?
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Sean



1) None. Some Hindus converted to Sikhism and some to Islam.

2) The Khalsa army (Sikhs) were defending and fighting for the Hindus so a lot of Hindu families made the eldest son a Sikh and sent him to the Khalsa army to return.. what they considered "a favour".


They might have called them out but has it ever been a part of the religion. If it's written somewhere in the Gita or said by one of the Gods or any prophet then you have a point. Sikhs have always been taught how everyone is equal, our prophets opposed to the caste-system. There are Sikh Sindhi's so if they get married in a Gurdwara it's normal, isn't it? Although everyone is welcome in a Gurdwara, one doesn't have to be a Sikh to visit a Gurdwara. Infact, this is something worth reading;


DEHRADUN: The Sikhs of Joshimath, a small town in the state of Uttarakhand, have set an example by allowing the Muslim community to offer prayer at their Gurdwara on the occasion of Eid-ul-Fitr, Indian media reported.


Sikhs have contribute to India freedom more than any other religion and still we have to fight to defend our religion. Below are some facts from the the book History of Indian National Congress
"Even though Sikhs were 2% of the population of India, out of 42,000 recruits in the Indian National Army under the command of Subhash Chandra Bose, 28,000 soldiers, contributing 67% were Sikhs.

Following is the contribution of Sikhs who are less than 2% of the population of India in the freedom struggle against the British:

Punished Total Sikhs % of Sikhs
Hanged by British 121 93 77%
Life Imprisonment 2646 2147 81%
Jallianwala Bagh Massacre 1300 799 62%


Today Sikhs are still 2% of the population of Indian but 20% of Indian Military consists of Sikhs. As a part of Indian Military, Sikhs have constantly been fighting Muslim terrorists on the border of Pakistan and India since last India-Pakistan war."

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: guess_wh0



Well said. I stand corrected but I never said Sikhism is not distinct. I just said, Sikhism is not very different. For sure, Sikh's have their own identity. That's the five K's were created. All I'm saying is that Hindu's and Sikh's are bounded together in a way, which is hard to see with any two other religions.


Long as you understand the distinction now were are all good😉. I agree sikhs and hindu do share a special bond that has kept hindu and sikhs together for centuries. Hopefully, that bond will get even stronger with time.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: guess_wh0



Well said. I stand corrected but I never said Sikhism is not distinct. I just said, Sikhism is not very different. For sure, Sikh's have their own identity. That's the five K's were created. All I'm saying is that Hindu's and Sikh's are bounded together in a way, which is hard to see with any two other religions.



Sikhism is similar to Islam in its own way as well.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: .Heisenberg



that's my whole point, monotheism is one of the main principles of Dvaita Vedanta, so how's that any different?



Oh really.. like you just said monotheism is one of the main principles of Islam too so are you going to tell me Sikhism and Islam are the same? 😆 The other principles like no idol worship, no cast system and no belief in mukti are different too... now tell me, how many more differences do you want in two religions?
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Sean



I am hearing this for the first time because what I have read is the 7 phere are the same in South as well as the North, other customs and traditions might differ. But okay let's leave that aside, the vows we take in Sikhism are completely different from the promises the Hindus make while marrying. And there are so many other differences between these two religions, like we do not believe in mukti. But yes it's okay if people think Sikhs are not different.. because it doesn't matter how much we try to explain some people will believe what they want to believe. So yes let's leave it at that. I am happy atleast the followers of these two religions can live peacefully in one country, not only of these two.. followers of any religion live peacefully together in India.




My husband is a Kashmiri pandit and the rituals at our wedding were very different than any other Hindu wedding I have seen. We had 3.5 phere. We had to look at each other in a mirror. We were to sit under a shawl/ blanket while everyone showered us with flowers. For our saptpadi I had to walk on money. Do basically the rituals vary depending on where you are from
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: frosty



My husband is a Kashmiri pandit and the rituals at our wedding were very different than any other Hindu wedding I have seen. We had 3.5 phere. We had to look at each other in a mirror. We were to sit under a shawl/ blanket while everyone showered us with flowers. For our saptpadi I had to walk on money. Do basically the rituals vary depending on where you are from


I didn't know that hindu wedding differed so much, but I learn something new everyday. I watching the show Madhubala and in that show the hero takes only 4 pheres with the girl ( they made a mockery out the hindu wedding in that serial, which I was really disappointed with) and everyone in the Madhubala forum was talking about how there is always 7 phere in hindu wedding but guess that is not the case.


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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Sean



Oh really.. like you just said monotheism is one of the main principles of Islam too so are you going to tell me Sikhism and Islam are the same? 😆 The other principles like no idol worship, no cast system and no belief in mukti are different too... now tell me, how many more differences do you want in two religions?
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that's like saying cats have 4 legs, so they are related to dogs, since they also have 4 legs 😆

Are you seriously suggesting that moksha isn't part of Sikhism?, maybe you'd like to reevaluate that. 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
Hinduism, if you follow the Vedas, says the same thing that Sikhism does:

Who really knows?
Who will here proclaim it?
Whence was it produced? Whence is this creation?
The gods came afterwards, with the creation of this universe.
Who then knows whence it has arisen?


The Gods are not the ones that created the universe. There's a supreme being that has no face, no name. Nobody knows.

Sikhism says God is shapeless, timeless and sightless.

The Gods are deity's,they're not the supreme being.



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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: .Heisenberg


that's like saying cats have 4 legs, so they are related to dogs, since they also have 4 legs 😆

Are you seriously suggesting that moksha isn't part of Sikhism?, maybe you'd like to reevaluate that. 😆



Sikhs do believe in Moksha, but not the same way in which Hindus believe in it. We believe you can only get Mukti by doing meditation on Gods name and not by going on pilgrimages or taking a bath in a holy river. I was referring to that..
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