Sikh Body Wants Action Against Ajay Devgn - Page 17

Originally posted by: MrManagement

😆 If you read my topics on the first page, I was only taking about the movie, but then people started to make baseless statements such as "Hindusim and Sikhism are the same". How could I live with myself If I didn't enlighten the ignorant souls and show them the correct path😳

But your right, we desi log always make everything about religion. Go on youtube and listen to a Bollywood song, and in the comments section you well find hindu/muslims/ christians etc. fighting.

Totally.. sometimes I scroll down to see if someone has mentioned the movie name or something.. NO.. all I see is the religious fights and most absurd comments ever..

Originally posted by: guess_wh0

You're sadly mistaken. Hinduism doesn't preach that at all.

In totality, there are four paths of attaining liberation from the cycle of death and rebirth, namely, selfless work, self dissolving love, deep meditation and total discernment.

Where else have you heard that before? In a Sikh scripture perhaps.

.Heisenberg, I would love to read the Gita only to gain more knowledge but how about you read our Holy book the Guru Granth Sahib too, as I think that would clear up your misconception about there not being any difference between Hinduism and Sikhism.

Guess_Who, so it has 4 paths right? but in Sikhism there is only one way and that is by doing meditation on Gods name.
All in all, Hinduism and Sikhism are two religions that have more similarities than perhaps any other two religions.
Of course we do have a lot of similarities, hell my own sister-in-law was a Hindu so I know that! But you're not entirely right because Sikhism has as many similarities with Islam as Hinduism, but we're different from both of them.
And I just read you've already accepted that we have our own identity.. the only part I did not agree with was Sikhism being a part of Hinduism. When you have already agreed with the fact that we're different then why carry on with this discussion in the first place...

Peace.

Originally posted by: MrManagement

Hinduism is completely different from Sikhism, just because they share certain similarties doesn't make them the same thing. To put in elementary terms, Cats have four legs, so do dogs but there completely different animals. Kangaroos stand on two feet, so do humans by you logic all humans and kangaroos are the same and so are all the other bipedal animals. Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Juddhism and Sikhism are all different ways of attaining God. The end goal is the same, but route is different.

But the route is the same.

Both are based on karma, dharma, samsara and moksha. And that's the only way to achieve salvation.

Sikhism is a more refined form of Hinduism where all the crap like Caste system, women inequality, Sati is thrown out but those are not the main principles of Hinduism.

I'm not arguing the distinctions but you can't argue that the major values are the same.

Originally posted by: K.Sean

.Heisenberg, I would love to read the Gita only to gain more knowledge but how about you read our Holy book the Guru Granth Sahib too, as I think that would clear up your misconception about there not being any difference between Hinduism and Sikhism.

Guess_Who, so it has 4 paths right? but in Sikhism there is only one way and that is by doing meditation on Gods name.
All in all, Hinduism and Sikhism are two religions that have more similarities than perhaps any other two religions.
Of course we do have a lot of similarities, hell my own sister-in-law was a Hindu so I know that! But you're not entirely right because Sikhism has as many similarities with Islam as Hinduism, but we're different from both of them.
And I just read you've already accepted that we have our own identity.. the only part I did not agree with was Sikhism being a part of Hinduism. When you have already agreed with the fact that we're different then why carry on with this discussion in the first place...

Peace.

No there isn't. There's much more to salvation that meditation.

Anyways I'm done. I've never cared for religion anyways. It just makes for an interesting subject.

Originally posted by: guess_wh0

But the route is the same.

Both are based on karma, dharma, samsara and moksha. And that's the only way to achieve salvation.

Sikhism is a more refined form of Hinduism where all the crap like Caste system, women inequality, Sati is thrown out but those are not the main principles of Hinduism.

I'm not arguing the distinctions but you can't argue that the major values are the same.

Originally posted by: K.Sean

I am hearing this for the first time because what I have read is the 7 phere are the same in South as well as the North, other customs and traditions might differ. But okay let's leave that aside, the vows we take in Sikhism are completely different from the promises the Hindus make while marrying. And there are so many other differences between these two religions, like we do not believe in mukti. But yes it's okay if people think Sikhs are not different..because it doesn't matter how much we try to explain some people will believe what they want to believe. So yes let's leave it at that. I am happy atleast the followers of these two religions can live peacefully in one country, not only of these two.. followers of any religion live peacefully together in India.

Originally posted by: MrManagement

In Sikhism the true goal of Sikh is not to go to heaven but to go to Such Khand. In Sikhsim, if a person does good karma and dharma they will got to heaven etc, but the route to Such Khand is only through mediation. In sikhism, there are no four paths to achieving liberation like Hinduism there is only ONE.

As for the values, if look at the values at the inception of Hinduism and compare those to the value of Sikhism they are different. But in current state, lots of Hindu values have progressed (many hindu believe in no caste system know, no sati) but since Hindu value have become similar to Sikhism that doesn't mean the religions have become one the same. But I agree some value are the same, but there is similarities in everything in the world.

You mean something like this :

Svarga is seen as a transitory place for righteous souls who have performed good deeds in their lives but are not yet ready to attain moksha, or elevation to Vaikunta, the abode of Lord Vishnu, considered to be the Supreme Abode (Rig Veda (1.22.20) states, O? tad vi??o? paramam padam sada pasyanti suraya?: "All the suras (i.e., the devas) look towards the feet of Lord Vishnu as the Supreme Abode"). The capital of Svarga is Amaravati and its entrance is guarded by Airavata. Svarga is presided over by Indra, the chief deva.

Why do I keep getting pulled into this debate. This time I'm seriously done.😊

Originally posted by: guess_wh0

You mean something like this :

Svarga is seen as a transitory place for righteous souls who have performed good deeds in their lives but are not yet ready to attain moksha, or elevation to Vaikunta, the abode of Lord Vishnu, considered to be the Supreme Abode (Rig Veda (1.22.20) states, O? tad vi??o? paramam padam sada pasyanti suraya?: "All the suras (i.e., the devas) look towards the feet of Lord Vishnu as the Supreme Abode"). The capital of Svarga is Amaravati and its entrance is guarded by Airavata. Svarga is presided over by Indra, the chief deva.

Why do I keep getting pulled into this debate. This time I'm seriously done.😊

Originally posted by: ~Attractive~

Brother . Nobody is interested watching his movies even if they are made with high budgets. I hardly watch his movies and don't even remember last time when i had watched his movie since he is horrendous and douchebag downright. I am dead sure his movie SOS is going to be flop .