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Originally posted by: guess_wh0

Sindhi's have been getting married in Gurudwara's too for generations.

Originally posted by: guess_wh0

If only someone could answer my two simple questions and enlighten me

1) Who else converted to Sikhism, other than Hindus?

2) The elder son was made a Sikh by 1000's of Hindu families. In history, thats unprecedented. Such a drastic step would not have been taken if the Hindus did not consider Sikh's to be part of them.

Lastly, Sikhism abolished some shameful Hindu practices like Sati, superstition and the cast system which was way ahead of its time but like .Heisenberg said there have been mystics and scholars before the Guru's who called these very same Hindu rituals out.

DEHRADUN: The Sikhs of Joshimath, a small town in the state of Uttarakhand, have set an example by allowing the Muslim community to offer prayer at their Gurdwara on the occasion of Eid-ul-Fitr, Indian media reported.

Originally posted by: souro

@guess_who: Please don't ridicule others about their language skills. This forum is open for all, please respect that.
Also if you have a problem with what someone might have written, please point that out without name calling.

@Attractive: Racially/ religiously prejudiced jokes are not allowed on IF. I understand that you did it without knowing. But once you've realised, please move on instead of continuing the argument, especially making unfounded accusations of MIDs was uncalled for.

@Xaffron: It's better to report something and leave it at that. Stating it in the open forum can escalate the matter, so my request is to please avoid that.
Moreover, dragging another member's name who is not at all related in the current discussion, was not necessary.

Originally posted by: K.Sean

Hinduism is a polytheistic religion.. if there are Hindu philosophers who reject multiple gods then how can you even call them Hindus? If they do not believe in the main principles of the Hindu dharma then they're not Hindus to begin with! It's like saying a Muslim philosopher rejects the existence of one God but believes in 100 Gods, it doesn't make sense right! It's not even about the attire, the HIndu traditions might differ in every state but the main 7 phere don't! Ofcourse the other traditions differ because Hindu and Muslim Punjabis have the same ceremonies like Mehndi and all as Sikh Punjabis but a HIndu gets married in a Mandir, a Muslim gets a Nikaah done and a Sikh gets married in a Gurdwara.

Originally posted by: guess_wh0

If only someone could answer my two simple questions and enlighten me

1) Who else converted to Sikhism, other than Hindus?

2) The elder son was made a Sikh by 1000's of Hindu families. In history, thats unprecedented. Such a drastic step would not have been taken if the Hindus did not consider Sikh's to be part of them.

Lastly, Sikhism abolished some shameful Hindu practices like Sati, superstition and the cast system which was way ahead of its time but like .Heisenberg said there have been mystics and scholars before the Guru's who called these very same Hindu rituals out.

Originally posted by: .Heisenberg

who told you that "multiple gods" is the main principle of Hinduism?, it's not. Hinduism is more like a trunk with thousands of branches emerging from it, with very different philosphies and ideas, it isn't a religion in the sense as Abrahamic religions, so your analogy fails, in Islam, monotheism IS the main principle along with the prophethood of Muhammad, but in Hinduism, the notion of God is extremely varied, so varied that you'll find contradictions among a lot of them, yet all of them are classified under a very loosely defined term, "Hinduism".

Hinduism comes in many forms, monotheism, monism, henotheism, pantheism, nondualism, agnosticism, polytheism, and even atheism, so to brush it off as simply a "polytheistic religion", is profound ignorance.

Originally posted by: K.Sean

Hinduism is a polytheistic religion.. if there are Hindu philosophers who reject multiple gods then how can you even call them Hindus? If they do not believe in the main principles of the Hindu dharma then they're not Hindus to begin with! It's like saying a Muslim philosopher rejects the existence of one God but believes in 100 Gods, it doesn't make sense right! It's not even about the attire, the HIndu traditions might differ in every state but the main 7 phere don't! Ofcourse the other traditions differ because Hindu and Muslim Punjabis have the same ceremonies like Mehndi and all as Sikh Punjabis but a HIndu gets married in a Mandir, a Muslim gets a Nikaah done and a Sikh gets married in a Gurdwara.

Originally posted by: MrManagement

Seriously, I am amazed that you think that Sikhism and Hinduism are the same. First, Sikhism is a monotheistic religion, there is no debate at all in the sikhism society . While there is huge debate on hinduism, whether it is polytheistic or monotheistic depending on who you ask.

Some of the major difference between sikhism and Hinduism are the following: There is no idol worship in sikhism, if you go to any Gurudwara all the sikhs bow to Guru Granth Sahib not idols. God has no form in Sikhism (god is considered formless but in Hinduism that is not the case). There is no caste system in Sikhsim, there is one in hindusim(Brahmins, Kshatiyas, Viashyas and shudras). In hinduism there is mythology that earth is supported by a gaint bull, sikhism don't believe any of those mythologies nor sikhs believe in the holiness of cows or other animals. Women are give equal rights (no sati) there is no priesthood (pundits) all sikhs can become priests that also includes women. There are only a few differences, they list goes on. One of the reasons, Hindu converted there eldest sons to sikhs because of the Guru Teg Bahadur gave his life to protect the Kashmire pundits religion.

I am just dumbstruck that people like you still can't recognize the fact that sikhism is different religion. There have been scholars before the gurus who stood up against some of hindu rituals but that doesn't change the fact that Hindu religion was founded on those rituals. In Sikhism, since it inception all the rituals and values have stayed the same. Everyone is treated equally in sikhism. Let me guess, you probably also believe that Buddhism is also part of hinduism, beacuas Siddhartha Gautama a hindu founded buddhism. Sikhism is 500 years old, and still we have to justify the fact that were a not hindus. There is nothing wrong with being a hindu, but we have our separate identity.

Originally posted by: K.Sean

Okay you might know a bit more about Hinduism but again, Sikhism is just like Islam a monotheistic religion and that's one of the main principles for Sikhs, it doesn't come in other forms like Hinduism.. So it pretty much answers your own question how Sikhs are different.