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Posted: 13 years ago

Why Swades Flopped - Gandhi Has Answers!!

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This is my conjecture. Please disprove it.

Any movie which has a story purely built on changing the social order will not work. Lagaan wasnt about that. May be in a profound way it resonated that, but the movie at face value didnt depict that. Let us see a set of movies which flopped

1. Swades
2. Unnal Mudiyum Thambi - Tamil
3. Drohkaal
4. Ardh Sathya
5. Ayudha Ezhuthu or Yuva
6. Prahaar
7. Nammavar-Tamil
8. Shool

Definitely there will be more movies of such nature. They just wont click.

The movies 1,2,5 and 7 are actual true examples of the genre I am talking about where a set of people (normally with the hero as the leader), try to change the social fabric using legal and developmental methods as compared to fighting and killing.

Indians dont have patience to see such proper means which involve benefits after N years and not the benefits and results are also not shown in the movie. Indians need instant karma. Ends are more important than means. Gandhi Who??

That is why movies like

Indian - Tamil
Mudhalvan - Tamil
Gentleman - Tamil
Ramana - Tamil

will click. As these movies employ shrewd tactical and interesting means to solve the social problem. Normally not viable also.

Are Indians tolerant to preaching? Definitely Yes, but they want Screen preaching followed by immediate action and also the final end result.This wasnt the case in swades, but was in the case of Indian or Ramana. So the difference.

But Gowariker Gave His Disclaimer in the first frame of his film:

"Hesitating to act because the whole vision might not be achieved, or because others do not yet share it, is an attitude that only hinders progress." Mahatma Gandhi

But then our Indian Audience want the whole vision achieved by the end of the movie. So Gowariker, please understand the needs and pulse of the audience before making the next movie. You did that when you made Lagaan, when the movie ended with finality, the match was won. Same is not true here. Mohan coming back is not a big deal, the India hasnt been changed except for the light bulb??

Advice: Indians Need Instant Karma. Beginings arent good enough. Show what happens in the end. If beginning is only shown, the movie puts the burden of ending in real life to the Audience, which the audience feel a big burdern to carry and feel cheated for the money they paid. They dont want to go back with guilt and resposibility but with happiness and relief. Gowariker, why do you burden our audience with action items to do, afterall they come to see a movie and not to do social work. Give them a movie please. We Indians crib like me and dont do, and if some asks us, we shout at them and ask them to shut up. Gowariker, you should have known better! Better luck next time!

For real stuff: Please Read->

http://www.hindu.com/edu/2005/01/03/stories/2005010300301100.htm

http://www.aidindia.org/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=130&Itemid=63


Sakreha., all rights reserved.

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Posted: 13 years ago
Just came back from the movie!

review will come soon, mind is raped at the moment 😆

in a good way =)
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Posted: 13 years ago

One expected more!

By Taran Adarsh, June 13, 2012 - 07:43 IST
Two observations...
Observation I: The glowing reviews by critics are important. But, film-makers will agree, the mandate by the cinema-going audience is *most* important. We make movies for them. The footfalls at plexes/single screens and the revenue accrued from ticket sales decide the fate of the movie. The audience verdict is final!

Observation II: Flashback. Almost three decades ago, ZANJEER had already released and a new superstar was 'born'. Amitabh Bachchan delivered a string of hits subsequently, but ALAAP, released during the best phase of his professional life, didn't set the box-office afire. Only goes to prove that box-office can be so unpredictable!

The above-mentioned observations hold true for SHANGHAI. The film won immense praise from critics who matter. Besides, the presence of Emraan Hashmi, considered the darling of the masses, after having delivered a string of hits, automatically made SHANGHAI special. But there was a vast difference between the business potential of an Amitabh starrer helmed by Ramesh Sippy or Manmohan Deasi and an Amitabh starrer helmed by Hrishikesh Mukherjee. Similarly, one did not expect SHANGHAI to open as huge as MURDER 2, THE DIRTY PICTURE or JANNAT 2. Even the release strategy was different, with PVR not going really wide on this one.

SHANGHAI had a lukewarm start on Friday, but picked up on Saturday and Sunday, though the growth in the business wasn't huge. The film caters to a select audience and at those properties, the escalation in business was evident. But the mass belt, which has always responded very well to Emraan Hashmi movies, gave a cold shoulder to this one. One of the reasons for the tepid start is attributed to the not-as-attractive promos. But, I guess, we start finding faults the moment a film doesn't open well.

The sole factor that goes in its favor is its economics [Rs 20.5 cr, includes P & A]. With a chunk of its investment recovered from the sale of Satellite and Audio rights and pre-sales [Rs 16.50 cr], the film should, hopefully, recover its investment. Of course, one expected more...
producer has recorved the investment and its emran's flop not abhay's ...this is what i got frm this article 😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
Sooo my review for Shanghai

You need to be attentive for this one, proper. From the intro to the end, each and every detail is so so important to keep in mind.. that was my folly.. I kinda overlooked much of the very beginning, because I thought they're just trying to set the stage and introduce each character's personality, but boy was I wrong 😆

Dibaker has a very peculiar way of directing, noticed this right away after I thought of Oye Lucky Lucky Oye after watching Shanghai... the way he uses dialogs, then cuts to a scene almost immediately, his focus on super duper close up expressions, the way he puts more emphasis on physical actions than making emotional dialogues.. its an out and out Dibaker movie, and I think it's his best one yet.

Won't narrate the story because thats the prime "thrill" in this political thriller... all that I will say is that I was mighty impressed by teh way it unravelled. Loved the cinematography, though the pacing is very slow indeed. There are select scenes though that proper blow your mind, and will probably disturb the sensitive folk.. but they're handled so, sooo nicely, and are pretty vital to represent the passion that Kalki's character fights with

Performances were tooo good to be true. Kalki has indeed played the disturbed, angry chick one too many times, but she just does it so amazingly! Her expressions are baap...
Abhay Deol was great =) To be fair though, he had limited scope, though his role is vital to the storyline, he does't get loads of screentime.. nonetheless he makes a great impact, he's convincing as the character he plays... he's sooo kickass in the end xD

My absolute favorite HAS to be EMRAAN HASHMI =D LOOOVED him! He was phenomenal goshh ahaha... whatta surprise package! I never disliked him but I never cared for his loverboy roles to be honest.. THISSS is where he truly shined. He was ugly but so adorable 😆 his confrontation with Kalki is such a great scene... hayyee he will make more fans with this role, guaranteed.

Overall I was very pleased with the movie.. I think it's Dibaker's best, but with taht said, I just wish the pacing was a little easier to follow 😆 In terms of political thrillers, the way he handled it, I rate it much higher than the way Raajneeti was handled, which was a tad too TV-serial-like for me

I don't think my recommendation holds much weight, but I aggressively recommend ya'll to watch it =)
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Posted: 13 years ago
Dibaker has a very peculiar way of directing, noticed this right away after I thought of Oye Lucky Lucky Oye after watching Shanghai... the way he uses dialogs, then cuts to a scene almost immediately, his focus on super duper close up expressions, the way he puts more emphasis on physical actions than making emotional dialogues.. its an out and out Dibaker movie, and I think it's his best one yet.


that is why i like his films there is something in his direction which none of bollywood directors have IMO

there is i athT unprecitablity in his films which catches the viewesr unawra yet he does so subtelity

just see the opening scene baggu and jaggu normaly talking in alley then next scene jumops to mod attacking shop owner and loud drum beats and slow motion

only dibakar can bring something like that
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Posted: 13 years ago
^ yesss, that slow motion scene was really something...
I was clueless though 😆 baad mein everything made sense
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Posted: 13 years ago
I saw it. will type up a review later on.
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Posted: 13 years ago
  • June 11, 2012, 9:00 AM IST

Bollywood Journal: The Fantastic Films of Dibakar Banerjee

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By Beth Watkins

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Dibakar Banerjee, director of the movie "Shanghai," likes to blur the real and the fictional.

I could write a month's worth of columns on the films of Dibakar Banerjee, the director of last weekend's big release "Shanghai." In his time, he's directed the clever, quiet comedy "Khosla Ka Ghosla" (2006); a portrait of a complicated crook, "Oye Lucky Lucky Oye" (2008), starring Abhay Deol, who also features in "Shanghai"; and "Love Sex aur Dhoka" (2010) – a collection of biting, gut-wrenching stories.

In all of these films, Mr. Banerjee uses typical masala elements in unusual ways and to utterly different ends. This approach makes his work compelling, relatable and fresh.

Hindi cinema tends to disregard the pedestrian aspects of realism, but Mr. Banerjee likes to blur the real and the fictional. Even the mild-mannered family in "Khosla Ka Ghosla" creates a fictional world through which they can challenge their enemy.

In "Love Sex aur Dhoka," three segments of "found footage" have been captured by various modern technologies and then compiled into a deliciously tacky program called "Reality Cinema." But maybe the manipulative power of contemporary media, which Mr. Banerjee so powerfully skewers in the film, means that what you have just witnessed is so distorted that it cannot possibly be a reality you need to be concerned about.

Masala films condition us to assume that a very particular and predictable moral order will be upheld and restored, but Mr. Banerjee deftly toys with those expectations. In "Khosla Ka Ghosla," the sweetest and simplest of his films, he lets us have what we expect, but it comes at a cost, with the sympathetic characters committing fraud on a huge scale. They ultimately choose to work for a version of family unity that the patriarch desperately wants, but for its fulfillment they sacrifice other values like honesty and legal innocence. The sharp divide between right and wrong has disappeared and is replaced by murky shades of "less wrong."

The main character in "Oye Lucky Lucky Oye," is the pinnacle of a lovable, unethical anti-hero. Lucky lies, steals and cons. He's sassy, impetuous and selfish. Yet we still hate to see him thwarted, and it stings when he is disappointed. Even the local police won't treat him like the criminal they know him to be, instead joking with him and basking in his heroic glow. And in "Love Sex aur Dhoka," the moral order has decayed so much that almost nobody gets what they deserve. Romance is bludgeoned, a desperate request for closeness is laid bare, and a slime-ball's star just continues to rise.

We Bollywood-watchers know about irony—boy do we—but we don't often see it employed for the effects that Mr. Banerjee gets with his third film. The ironies in "Love Sex aur Dhoka" are lethal. The young lovers Shruti and Rahul follow the overly-worn path of dozens of romances, but instead of heading towards happily-ever-after they are literally torn apart. They try so hard to live up to both the grand concept of filmi love and the real-world demands of family and authority, but they are dealt the opposite of a Bollywood ending.

Many other common masala elements take new turns in Mr. Banerjee's films. The staple motive of revenge is humorous in one setting and enacted against the least deserving players in another, where a poor boy and rich girl are united by death instead of by a miraculous realization of the power of love. Familial love reunites one group but fails in another character's situation so severely that he is in essence completely alone in life. A corrupt, unfeeling power system is beaten at its own game by brave players who resort to exaggerated flaunting of laws and norms. A villainous buffoon (who is directly compared to famous bad guy Amrish Puri) gets his way despite showing not a shred of humanity. The long-suffering Maa is translated into a young heroine who witnesses a man shot in front of her eyes, learns of her best friend's ghastly murder and misguidedly seeks comfort in the arms of an exploitative lowlife.

One of Bollywood's best-loved romances, "Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge," gets a special place in "Love Sex aur Dhoka." When Rahul and Shruti are swept away in their dreamy romance, narrating their love to that film's creator, Aditya Chopra, they make the fatal misstep of not waiting for her father's permission before marrying, even after he scolds Rahul that stories of elopements are damaging the culture.

Years ago at an art museum I saw a mechanical installation that, with a robotic arm, picked up a snapshot from a huge pile, held it out to you for inspection, and then ran it through a shredder, the pieces of the destroyed photographs falling in a pile. Mr. Banerjee's films remind me so much of that experience. "Here are elements you know," he seems to imply, before putting them in a blender. He ultimately gives them back, in a less recognizable but even more impressive form.

Beth Watkins has been blogging for more than five years at Beth Loves Bollywood. She is an expert on Bollywood history and lore as well as contemporary movies and actors (that's her on the left, with the Shah Rukh Khan action figure). You can follow Ms. Watkins on Twitter @bethlovesbolly.

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: liverach

^ yesss, that slow motion scene was really something...

I was clueless though 😆 baad mein everything made sense



also the ending in last 5 minutes where there are no dilauges but aweome BGM by mikey mclearlly and that BEEP sound of hosipital oxygen machine

one of the rarer ending i saw in bollywood
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Posted: 13 years ago
alsi i belive shanghai may not had made that much impact at BO but movie will sure have longer shelf life than recent "blokbusters"

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