NY: Good because it deals with an important issue? - Page 3

Thanks not seen it yet its had good review but its subjects put me off really nice post.

Originally posted by: Koizakapoor

i dont think any one in today's world is so stupid to call a movie good just because it deals with an important issue...mostly such movies are prefered to be seen on dvds but the reason behind NY's success is its being a very gripping movie not coz of its important issue as u described and coming to the performances i would support and agree wid the critics that its the best performance of all the 3 actors till date..i think u have certainly under estimated today's audience n that is so not what it is in my opinion...

i certainly think that if u watch a movie making a specific point of view abt it or abt a particular actor u can never like it..ur review shows that u have been a little biased ...the way u talked abt katrina..i mean i know shez not a great actress but many ppl who have seen the movie wid a neutral mind have found great improvement in her but the way u have described her looks like shez only there in the movie for songs n stuff but the fact is shez not...n u have tried really hard to somehow find something wrong in it..i think if u saw the movie with a neutral mind u would have felt every bit of the pain...im not being personal n no offense but thats wat i strongly feel...

Originally posted by: pksanam

okay... so i did see NY... and yes, it is a bit over the top... the idea was good, but they just went over the top with all the percieved notions of what is would have been like... don't think they had much clue... they made it into a melodrama to appeal to the audience...

and my doubts were confirmed... they did not do any justice to the story... this is why i do not like bollywood tackling issues like these... they have absolutely no clue....!!

John did great and he was the star of the movie, even though in some scenes i did not like his acting... but he was much better... where the movie fails is showing the transition and the inner battle that leads to the culmination of the climax.... it was rushed and not executed properly...

bollywood should really give up trying to tackle sensitive issues...

you know, i came to NY during Bush Administrations... yes, there was a whole phase that unfortunate things happened... but things did improve during Bush Administration... it's not like suddenly things changed as soon as Obama became president.... yes, he did improve quite a lot of things and i'm glad he's taking steps to improve the economics of the country, which Bush failed at....!

in any case... katrina was alright... not so path breaking as everyone says, but i'm happy she's getting appreciated... she has lots more room to improve... and i won't go to the extent saying she shut up her critics because that'll take more time...!

Neil was average... some scenes he enacted quite well, others were a bit over the top...

Irfan was saving grace... he's great performer but he is getting repetitive, i agree...

overall, i'll give it 2 out of 5...!!

i would much rather have watched KI... at least it is what it promises to be, a mindless entertainer... 😛

My friends are telling me that Katrina suited the role andlooked good in it because this was close to home role. She was shown living in US and so her accent and her dress and everything suited same like Namaste London. Thats where she was appreciated for her acting. I think fo rthe roles like typical bollywood actress she needs work...

Originally posted by: asood43

I am so tired of this bollywood making 9/11 movies again and again. Why they don't concentrate their country's own issues for change why the muslims have not progressed as others in our country. how much people are living in poverty in villages? how people are still suffering for two time meal? They seem to care less with own issues but I am tired of this 9/11 movies especially coming form bollywood. or crappy Akshay Kumar movies.

Word!

It is a given that the Bollywood formula is mostly a fantasy genre of film-making. However, it is insulting to ones intelligence, when it transposes this formula onto serious issues like 9/11. Such issues demand realism, deliberate critical and intelligent political commentary and pain streaking research, which Bollywood really can't do.

With regards to NY, there were a lot of political inconsistancies, and I do agree with you, I rather have them attempt to show their local or regional issues in India. Slumdog made an attempt, and people absolutely loved it.

Which brings me back to the point of this topic. When Slumdog first came out, no one gave a damn about the film. Early reviews suggested that Indians were angered over the way that India was depicted. As soon as Oscar buzz was built around SDM, everyone jumped on the bandwagon and hailed the film as the best thing since sliced bread. And this is what I deduced from most of the comments circulating IF and the internet; SDM was loved, not because it was a great movie, but because it dealt with important issues, and it was India's vessle to the Oscars.

Originally posted by: lovanika

My friends are telling me that Katrina suited the role andlooked good in it because this was close to home role. She was shown living in US and so her accent and her dress and everything suited same like Namaste London. Thats where she was appreciated for her acting. I think fo rthe roles like typical bollywood actress she needs work...

Thanks for that review..I am watching it tomorrow..

Originally posted by: Koizakapoor

i dont think any one in today's world is so stupid to call a movie good just because it deals with an important issue...mostly such movies are prefered to be seen on dvds but the reason behind NY's success is its being a very gripping movie not coz of its important issue as u described and coming to the performances i would support and agree wid the critics that its the best performance of all the 3 actors till date..i think u have certainly under estimated today's audience n that is so not what it is in my opinion...

i certainly think that if u watch a movie making a specific point of view abt it or abt a particular actor u can never like it..ur review shows that u have been a little biased ...the way u talked abt katrina..i mean i know shez not a great actress but many ppl who have seen the movie wid a neutral mind have found great improvement in her but the way u have described her looks like shez only there in the movie for songs n stuff but the fact is shez not...n u have tried really hard to somehow find something wrong in it..i think if u saw the movie with a neutral mind u would have felt every bit of the pain...im not being personal n no offense but thats wat i strongly feel...

Um, and what makes you think I didn't watch the movie with a neutral mind?! If there's anyone who didn't watch the movie with a neutral mind, it's you, the Katrina, the Neil and the John Abraham fangirls. Of course you're going to love the film; it has your favorite actress in it. It's a pretty pre-mature assumption that you've made there.

I don't think you bothered to read the original post of this topic, as it outlines all the reasons why I thought it was just an average film. IT wasn't an average film because Katrina doesn't know the first thing acting, but yes, she certainly contributed to the disaster.

As for the audiences, yes I do think the masses are that naive to appreciate a film based on the face value alone.

Originally posted by: roxthefox

Um, and what makes you think I didn't watch the movie with a neutral mind?! If there's anyone who didn't watch the movie with a neutral mind, it's you, the Katrina, the Neil and the John Abraham fangirls. Of course you're going to love the film; it has your favorite actress in it. It's a pretty pre-mature assumption that you've made there.

I don't think you bothered to read the original post of this topic, as it outlines all the reasons why I thought it was just an average film. IT wasn't an average film because Katrina doesn't know the first thing acting, but yes, she certainly contributed to the disaster.

As for the audiences, yes I do think the masses are that naive to appreciate a film based on the face value alone.

Originally posted by: pksanam

okay... so i did see NY... and yes, it is a bit over the top... the idea was good, but they just went over the top with all the percieved notions of what is would have been like... don't think they had much clue... they made it into a melodrama to appeal to the audience...

and my doubts were confirmed... they did not do any justice to the story... this is why i do not like bollywood tackling issues like these... they have absolutely no clue....!!

John did great and he was the star of the movie, even though in some scenes i did not like his acting... but he was much better... where the movie fails is showing the transition and the inner battle that leads to the culmination of the climax.... it was rushed and not executed properly...

bollywood should really give up trying to tackle sensitive issues...

you know, i came to NY during Bush Administrations... yes, there was a whole phase that unfortunate things happened... but things did improve during Bush Administration... it's not like suddenly things changed as soon as Obama became president.... yes, he did improve quite a lot of things and i'm glad he's taking steps to improve the economics of the country, which Bush failed at....!

i would much rather have watched KI... at least it is what it promises to be, a mindless entertainer... 😛

Sanam, you hit the nail on the head, especially with what you said in the parts I so conviniently bolded.

👏

Originally posted by: pksanam

thank you...!! my point exactly... dish out a lot of melodrama, whether it has been properly executed or not, and add to that a few glycerin bottles... BINGO... 😉

audience is VERY naive in thinking that the makers actually care about all this... they're all in it to make money... and they know their target audience, so they fit the story to appeal to the audience, reason be damned...

though, i am glad the movie is doing well but my reasons are solely for the actors involved...! 😛

Well, I didn't hate the film. As psychobalehead pointed out, I liked the film for it's parts, but not as a whole. It was an average attempt, but it failed to evoke the reaction that it was suppose to, and I ended up feeling little to no sympathy for the characters (save for the detention scenes).

You've pegged the Bollywood formula. Unfortunately, I'm not easily swayed by melodrama and glycerin bottles. 😛😉

Originally posted by: roxthefox

Well, I didn't hate the film. As psychobalehead pointed out, I liked the film for it's parts, but not as a whole. It was an average attempt, but it failed to evoke the reaction that it was suppose to, and I ended up feeling little to no sympathy for the characters (save for the detention scenes).

You've pegged the Bollywood formula. Unfortunately, I'm not easily swayed by melodrama and glycerin bottles. 😛😉