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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well although arrest is bit too much but the fact is bb edits a lot of stuff and we can't really know what actually happened and fact is even live feed is manipulated by producers and is not actually live but delayed by 5 minutes and we would not have reached here if kohli had been evicted like krk who was evicted for throwing a bottle but they didn't and now paying the price and as a last thought this could be pre planned publicity stunt by the show as most of the charges are bail able and maybe Sofia will withdraw case later
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@All they will achieve from this is, Armaan will be questioned in Police station and his statement recorded. Against pittance of a sum like 5000 Rupees bond, he will be asked to go away. Even assuming Sofiya stays adamant and the case goes to court, any smart ass lawyer representing Armaan would blast this whole case in no more than 3 hearings


I think it is not so simple now.

Mr Kohli has been booked under sections 324 (voluntarily causing hurt by dangerous weapons or means), 504 (intentional insult to provoke breach of peace) and 509 (word, gesture or act intended to outrage the modesty of a woman) 506 (criminal intimidation) and 354 a (sexual harassment) of the Indian Penal Code (Copy paste from empusa's post)

The police have gone through the video footage. They have made a list of IPC sections under which all those actions fall and filed a case against him. Now my question is most of these sections are Subjective. When both men and women are put under the same roof and subjected to different types of pressures, the contestants are bound to err and fall under any of the above sections of IPC. Don't you think that these sections can be misused by some in BB house.

In my opinion as of now all the contestants including Sangram will fall under one or the other sections of IPC. The entire BB housemates including BB should be in Jail now.
Edited by ManjuBlore - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I guess people are getting confused here. Let me make some points clear to you:-
1. A charge has to be put on a person by one of the law implementers of the country which could be a person, police or any other such branches or judiciary in this case it was Sofia.

2. Charges are framed against the accused under IPC. This can be done by the police based on the evidence or a person can also be charged under IPC by the complainant. Not sure if all charges are put on by Sofia and her lawyers or not.

3. Depending on the crime a bailable or non bailable warrant can be issued.

Now as per newer laws as soon as Sofia charged him with sec 354 of IPC would automatically result in non bailable warrant. Most people think that if BB would have taken strong action this would not have happened. Now even if BB would have evicted Armaan, yet if Sofia would have filed charges, Armaan would have been arrested as well. Now most are assuming that she would not have gone ahead with the charges but who knows what would have happened. Also Cruiserji, as per law they had to arrest Armaan as soon as they got the warrant.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shelly1026

As I understand it, the police have the unedited version of the events in issue. Based on that evidence, Armaan has been booked under the following:

Indian Penal Code section 324 (voluntarily causing hurt by dangerous weapons or means)
IPL 504 (intentional insult to provoke breach of peace)
IPL 509 (word, gesture or act intended to outrage the modesty of a woman)
IPL 506 (criminal intimidation)
IPL 354 (sexual harassment)

If these laws have been created, they should be followed. We shouldn't try to be the lawmakers or the decision-makers as we clearly don't have all the facts.

Sofia herself can be booked under IPC section 504 - Intentional insult with intent to provoke breach of the peace...

But that's right - we should let their legal teams fight it out. If only we could see the court-room drama after BB is over...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Wisian

I thought, it was quick... Wasn't it just two days ago that she claimed to have made a police complaint? 🤔
Anyhoo... I'm happy that AK is out of the game, and that Sofia punished him like she said she would. 😆



she filed complaint against armaan on 11th December...so its been 5 days..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well said Cruiser, you have covered everything in a neutral way. I just wanna add that if Armaan had really intentionally hit Sofiya, I think the housemates would at least step out of the car immediately. Their response to ask for Armaan's eviction came quite late so I don't think it got that ugly. I don't understand why the channel has protected him though. One more thing that annoys me is Sofia and some people comparing her to the delhi rape victim. I mean come on now,that's just undermining that girl's suffering to glorify Sofia. Sofia wasn't at all innocent and some cases can be filed against her too. What happens in Bigg Boss should be left in Bigg Boss.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: empusa



she filed complaint against armaan on 11th December...so its been 5 days..


Well, I'd still say that that is very prompt police work...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Wisian

Sofia herself can be booked under IPC section 504 - Intentional insult with intent to provoke breach of the peace...

But that's right - we should let their legal teams fight it out. If only we could see the court-room drama after BB is over...

True but Police or judiciary is not acting suo moto. They are acting on a complaint. So someone has to file charges against her for police to take action.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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u r so funny...🤣 @ the line "Both blessed each other with quite a few colorful decorations "😆
Hahha jo ajay nahi karr saka woh sofiya ne karr daala ..sinngham 3 ban gayi pulis toh..itnii efficient..waah.😆 Are u sure this is not part of the script?? Armaan toh kitna influential hai.. usney do minute mein lawyer lagaakar nikal aana hai😕 Is season ke baad BB will stop altogether..koi BB par hi case daal dega ki too much gaushal PDA ..😆 Big Boss ki toh kaya palat ho gayi hai bhai.. pehley daaku hi andarr aatein hain.. abhi daaku bankarr bhi baahar jaatein hain.. 😆
BTW sophia ne toh Armaan ko jantallmaan bulaaya tha na kuch time pehley😆
Edited by Jay_tapori - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Wisian

Once they receive a complaint, the police should decide what sections of the penal code can be applied in the case. Prima facie, from what we have seen, Sofia's complaint can only make a case of assault with the intent to outrage the modesty of a woman, voluntarily causing hurt, and criminal intimidation... The relevant sections are s. 324, 354, and 506. These are all bailable offenses, and I also think that if these were the sections on the basis of which a complaint was filed, it is puzzling why the police dropped everything else on their plate to make an arrest. 😕

To follow the correct procedure, the police should have asked Armaan to appear for an interview - be advised to have a lawyer with him - and only if his guilt be suitably established - place him under arrest. Either they have considered the unedited video of the incident to be sufficient as proof of guilt, or they are also eager to get their few minutes of fame... who knows...

I am however not complaining about the removal of the douche... I hope, he is considered evicted for all purposes hereafter. 😆😆


@Wisian, I don't know much about law but I think a lawyer is not required to be present when they have an arrest warrant for the accused. They must have been working on this case for sometime now and once they had sufficient proof, they would just show up and arrest the accused. I think Indian law works on, "guilty until proven innocent". Not sure, I want to read up on this.

Edited by giakabir - 11 years ago

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