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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: JasToronto

Hey Guys, I will and I can perform Namaz every single day if my friends wants me to or take me to masjid to give them support as I respect their religious belief. Guru Nanak went to Mecca to perform Hajj with his friends/followers. He was from Hindu faith who spent 18 years of his life in visiting religious places of all major religions through out Asia, some parts of Africa and Europe.
As far as Fasting in concerned, I have never gone through fasting procedure in my life thus it will be difficult for me but if there is a reason then I will not hesitate to do fasting in Ramadan. I have shared food with my Muslim friends in Ramadan at Iftar time.😊
Two years ago my sister got married in San Jose California. She is doing her residency program in Boston now. The wedding ceremony took place in a Jain temple then next day in a Sikh temple because boy comes from a Hindu faith. Almost everybody from girls side was wearing suits but I decided to wear traditional Kurta Pyjama. Guess what? After the wedding (bedi Pheras/puja) ceremony nobody was allowed to go to the main hall upstairs where all Jain Lords Images were placed.😊 Pundit ji allowed me because I was wearing Traditional Hindu Dress. 😆
Years ago our university group went to Nepal. Pashu Patti Nath temple in Katmandu is a very famous ancient Hindu temple thus everybody went to visit the temple. Non Hindus are not allowed to enter the temple. I asked Pundit ji if I could go in. He said, "Sardar ji aap to hamaree dharam ke Rakshak hai, apko hum kaisi rok sektee hai. (he was referring to ninth Guru Teg Bahadur ji)
I mean to say is that if non Hidus participate in prayers it wouldn't affect their religion or belief. It would have been nice if Gauhar had participated in Durga Puja prayers.
I have taken halal meat with my friends but don't buy and cook halal meat because I don't have to😆 I mean to say is that I am not fundamentalist. I was born in a Sikh family and sharing my time or attending Hindu or Muslim or Christian ceremonies or function will have no affect on my religion as Guru Nanak says:
Awal Allah Noor Upaya, Kudrat ke sab Bandee,
Ek Noor te sab Jag Upjeyaa, Kaun bhalee ko mandee.
In last July, one of my friends got married to a Muslim girl. They know each other since grade 8. This wedding took place in a Sikh temple according to Sikh customs. They are living happily together with boys parents. Both are professional and holding top positions in a financial institution. Unfortunately only girls two sisters attended the wedding and nobody else from her family bothered to come. 😭
Time is changing and so does the world. Thank God our new generation has a positive attitude and see things differently.
Mazhab nahi seekhata, Apas mai bair rakhna,
Hindi hai Hum Vatan hai, Hindosta humara,
Saree Jaha se Aacha, Hindosata Humara,
Hum Bulbulee hai iski, Ye Gul sata humara.
So country comes first before our religious beliefs. Their was no harm for Gauhar in holding Puja Thali and joining inmates in prayers. This is my point of view only. I don't mean to hurt anybody's religious beliefs. Thanks for reading this essay.😊


Right,Country comes first.So she should stand up when the national anthem goes on and when the flag is hoisted.That is called Patriotism and love for country,which I guess she must be doing that. But holding Puja thali won't make her any less of an Indian than she is right now nor would it make anyone else more of an Indian.

Religion is a personal belief.Don't make it a badge for nationality.

Whatever Gauhar did was more than enough respect to the puja.She wore saree,she stood up.That's it.NOthing more expected more from her.

Unity in diversity is the backbone of national integration,not holding puja thali.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: punjabibilli

If a religion teaches tht one can't pray other gods than tht religion is wrong .. Tht religion preaches wrong things .. Their god is wrong ..
They need to change their faulty teachings else tht religion will perish with time ..

I don't know the reason why she didn't participated .. But if she didn't participated cos of this islam bs than she is wrong .. She had put a bad name to her allah ..

If she is on periods than also tht is no reason ... It nowhere written in the vedas tht in periods women can't perform poojas .. It is just some superstition which has been inserted by some fraud pandits ..


Yes Islam teaches that we have to bow only front of one god and we believe that God does not have any image and that is the difference between Hinduism and Islam but definitely Islam does not teach to be disrespectful towards other religion. If Gauhar did not take part in the pooja coz of her religion she is is right as long as she is not disrespectful.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: petersiddle28


Staying away while rest of the house is celebrating - that too on a big event like Dushera will certainly be a stand on freedom of speech. Its not only bad for her image, but also disrespectful


''big event like Dushera'' Big for Hindus.Not for Muslims. Why should she partake in something in which her beliefs dont allow her to. If she wanted to disrespect she could have stayed in the bedroom or sat while all were standing.Its her wish.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: petersiddle28


Yeah, exactly - thats exactly how people do it. It's like getting over with it - tell me how many would know what to say in a prayer? in modern life, how many parents would teach their kids that?
Its a formality, pray - touch the photo, put a tika, pay 101 or whatever and be done with


So ''those people'' place more importance on what others would say rather than ''actually praying to God''.Hmmm.And you expect Gauhar to join puja for sake of conforming to the hypocrisy of ''those people''. Now I am really done with this topic.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: sana1289


''big event like Dushera'' Big for Hindus.Not for Muslims. Why should she partake in something in which her beliefs dont allow her to. If she wanted to disrespect she could have stayed in the bedroom or sat while all were standing.Its her wish.


Yes, so true dear so true. I hope whole of India is mature enough to agree with statement above

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Posted: 11 years ago
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well its true in islam if u are on ur period u should avoid touching religious things ie the koran and u can't pray the namaz
but as for not taking part in the pooja as a muslim she did the right thing
this is because a muslim can't take part in a prayer which worships another GOD
similarly its EID tomorrow so u can't expect everyone to pray the namaz
we need to let each other breathe and practice their religious beliefs the way they want to
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: Gumrah...

Jas - Enough about Gauhar, what is your take on Kushal?


Does it make Gauhar a less of a better person because she didn't participate in the puja? She didn't clap and dance with others?

The points you have raised above, such as you eating halal meat, or sharing food at Iftari with Muslim friends, isn't exactly something to blow your trumpets over and to prove to others you respect other religion. Gauhar, didn't disrespect any religion by not taking part in the Puja. She could have easily had the same reason as Kushal, and may have been angry at bigboss for not letting the Hell mates mix in with the heaven mates - Simple. There is no reason, over analysing and and confusing yourself on why she didn't take part - She didn't want to. Simple.. When a girl says no, it means no. When a girl doesn't wanna take part, she doesn't wanna take part. We are no one to object on this and make yourself sound like a better person by giving your previous justifications of things you have done outside your religion.


Well, well, well, Kushal knew that Gauhar willn't participate thus he wanted to make her look good. He basically supported her and made an excuse that he wanted Bigg Boss to open Jahanum side door. He knew that Bigg boss will never ever allow that.
Hey you guys simply stop beating around the bush. Everybody knows that Gauhar's religion doesn't permit her to do Idol, Murti or Picture worship and it is all fair. She has freedom of religious practices/beliefs and so does everybody else. Certain religions have flexibility. I think Bigg should have not Aired this Puja session because it opens avenue for an ugly debate which must be avoided.
I think the debate started when TM gave unnecessary excuses in order to cover Gauhar. There is no need to exploit this issue. I have nothing further to add in this debate.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This debate has been going on since yesterday, i stayed away, but I really think I need to clarify something here, I hope i make sense to you guys , if I dont its my fault...I will not reply further to this topic..

In some professions, you take an oath, if you break the oath, your license is taken away...The basic belief of Islam is the belief in one God...no if's or buts...if you deny that or break your oath, you are not a muslim or from the above example,your license is cancelled...simple...because they are committing shirk, which means ascribing partners with God...the same God of Moses, Abraham, Jesus and Mohammad.

So see here my friends, Gauhar was not being part of the puja as it is against the basic principle of Islam...some people argue how is her flirting, revealing dresses not against Islam and if she can do that why not do pooja as well...well...Lots of muslims act like Gauhar...thats for God to judge...yes, it is against the teaching of not only Islam but all religions...isn't the virgin Mary always seen wearing a Hijab...but todays christians dont follow the same dress code..does that mean they are not christians?.
Gauhar being an Indian was there...in her Indian outfit...all she did was not do the worship...thats not how "she" worships...why is that wrong?

I have lived in Malaysia...they practice Islam, hinduism and budhism...but never have the muslims been part of the poojas or hindus part of the Eid or other prayers...are they not a diverse country?...to each their own religion...no one is offended if you didnt participate in their form of worship...so I dont understand why is it a concern here...if hindu's can accept more than one God, then its their Faith...I am no one to argue with that...so why argue what Islam allows or not...
Pratyusha believes in some baba,to whom even Andy objected, so if Pratyusha decides to do pooja for that baba, does it mean everyone who doesnt believe in it have to take part in it?
I hope my long boring rant will bring some clarity as to why Gauhar did not participate in the pooja...its the same as why a jew will not pray in a mosque or vice versa...no offense to anyone...i tried to be very careful with my words.😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: JasToronto

Well, well, well, Kushal knew that Gauhar willn't participate thus he wanted to make her look good. He basically supported her and made an excuse that he wanted Bigg Boss to open Jahanum side door. He knew that Bigg boss will never ever allow that.
Hey you guys simply stop beating around the bush. Everybody knows that Gauhar's religion doesn't permit her to do Idol, Murti or Picture worship and it is all fair. She has freedom of religious practices/beliefs and so does everybody else. Certain religions have flexibility. I think Bigg should have not Aired this Puja session because it opens avenue for an ugly debate which must be avoided.
I think the debate started when TM gave unnecessary excuses in order to cover Gauhar. There is no need to exploit this issue. I have nothing further to add in this debate.


I just want to say one thing, and that's regarding kushal. Who are you and I to say what his true motives are?? We should just stick to what we saw and heard, and that is he clearly didn't participate in the puja despite being a hindu and that to for a stupid reason such as being mad at Big boss. No where did he mention Gauher, so we can't jump into assumptions.

It's a pointless discussion on how someone from another religion should have worshiped another god because like you said, there should be no further debate on this. Period.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -shabz-

This debate has been going on since yesterday, i stayed away, but I really think I need to clarify something here, I hope i make sense to you guys , if I dont its my fault...I will not reply further to this topic..

In some professions, you take an oath, if you break the oath, your license is taken away...The basic belief of Islam is the belief in one God...no if's or buts...if you deny that or break your oath, you are not a muslim or from the above example,your license is cancelled...simple...because they are committing shirk, which means ascribing partners with God...the same God of Moses, Abraham, Jesus and Mohammad.

So see here my friends, Gauhar was not being part of the puja as it is against the basic principle of Islam...some people argue how is her flirting, revealing dresses not against Islam and if she can do that why not do pooja as well...well...Lots of muslims act like Gauhar...thats for God to judge...yes, it is against the teaching of not only Islam but all religions...isn't the virgin Mary always seen wearing a Hijab...but todays christians dont follow the same dress code..does that mean they are not christians?.
Gauhar being an Indian was there...in her Indian outfit...all she did was not do the worship...thats not how "she" worships...why is that wrong?


I have lived in Malaysia...they practice Islam, hinduism and budhism...but never have the muslims been part of the poojas or hindus part of the Eid or other prayers...are they not a diverse country?...to each their own religion...no one is offended if you didnt participate in their form of worship...so I dont understand why is it a concern here...if hindu's can accept more than one God, then its their Faith...I am no one to argue with that...so why argue what Islam allows or not...
Pratyusha believes in some baba,to whom even Andy objected, so if Pratyusha decides to do pooja for that baba, does it mean everyone who doesnt believe in it have to take part in it?
I hope my long boring rant will bring some clarity as to why Gauhar did not participate in the pooja...its the same as why a jew will not pray in a mosque or vice versa...no offense to anyone...i tried to be very careful with my words.😊


you my friend made a great post!👏

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