History of JaiMal and Patta : HEROes of the 3rd Siege of Chittor - Page 8

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: geeta58


Abhay, u said MP was there in Kumbhalgarh at the time of siege. How far is Kumbhalgarh frm Chittor? Was Kumbhalgarh also in siege?.Abhay, in earlier episode, which u might hv missed, Sant Tulsidas has been shown to foresee this event of siege.n the massacre. At that time they had shown MP entering the Chittore fort, n stunned to see the corpses strwen . He was shown lamenting amidst the bed of corpses 😭 .Abhay, I hv seen innumerable wars fought in this serial with authenticity. And I am sure this is the mother of all battles !. They will carry this on at least fr three weeks.👍🏼
Abhay, I had been to Rajasthan thrice, but never been to Chittorgarh, as they said there was nothing there to be seen except the fort, so we didn't go. Abhi pachtake kya fayda?:(



Geeta,
Distance between Kumbhalgarh and Chittor's Fort is somewhere over 150 kms.
Not only Kumbhalgarh and Chittor, but Mandalgarh, Bijolia and Rampur, etc.. were also a part of siege.. Akbar had sent Asaf Khan and other generals to Kumbhalgarh and Mandalgarh, etc... In short a combined attack on entire Mewar. But, i get a feeling CV's will focus ONLY on Chittor. Though, i wish to see the actual detailed description. Let us see..

I missed that episode of Saint Tulsidas.
Can you give me episode number ?

Geeta, not only 3 weeks, i am sure, this is going to continue for month(s). :-P
You should visit Chittor's Fort. It's nostalgic. It's something "different" .

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

The episodes in MP have been thrilling this past week. I esp liked Thursday's episode. 👏

There is an attempt to show that even "ordinary" people were extremely brave and daring in their commitment to Mewar. Two examples: Rana Singh, the messenger and Hetu.

The ordinary citizens also assure Udai Singh that would fight with all their might and resist the Mughals' advance. They agree instantly to light all lamps on the fort ramparts, cook and eat in the open and generally project a festive spirit to reinforce the message that they are NOT afraid of Akbar's army.

It is good to see the participation of the people too and heroic deeds from ordinary folk and not just the expected valour of the protagonist. 😊



Radhika,
Last episode was good for various reasons. It brought some thing to my mind. Let me share here. For Rajputs, war was like a "sport" . The best time for conducting wars(sport for them) according to them was the festival of Dusshera . A foreign traveller visiting India in 17th Century , makes a "general" statement about them, when they fight "such is the aggression that it appears they are drunk " .!! I don't remember the name of that traveller.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek



<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Radhika,
Last episode was good for various reasons. It brought some thing to my mind. Let me share here. For Rajputs, war was like a "sport" . The best time for conducting wars(sport for them) according to them was the festival of Dusshera . A foreign traveller visiting India in 17th Century , makes a "general" statement about them, when they fight "such is the aggression that it appears they are drunk " .!! I don't remember the name of that traveller.
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Wow! Nice to hear this bit about Rajputs.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Radhika,

Watching the episodes of MP NOW is a treat, and i must say, it was awesome .
Akbar is shown as a determined strategist, who is ready to wait for any amount of time to win Chittor. He has come with a thinking and will divulge his plan at the right time.

I must thank the makers for at least showing a STRONG STRATEGIST in Akbar. As i said earlier, we can enjoy this siege track only when BOTH the sides are shown at their best. No one's stand should be compromised.

I agree, this kind of presentation is rare, especially for folks like us, who only hear yalgaar and few swords in the name of war. :-P This was a welcome change. 👏
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Totally agree with you Abhay. There should be a right balance in depiction. Instead of just glorifying protagonist and only vilifying the antagonist. This make the show interesting and sensible. Yes, even I am choosing to ignore DB. but I cannot ignore the Kshatriyani in her, her evilness apart this calls for a pat.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

I guess you are right. MP will return to Chittor with Jaimal. And then the war council will advise US and family to retire to the hills and MP to take up protection of Kumbalgarh. For them, Chittor must have looked impregnable and impossible to conquer. And the other places would be equally important to them. And, of course, the safety of the leader would be paramount.

I forgot about secret tunnels. :)

Where is Patta?

I find the scenes of Jagmaal most irritating. He seems to be forever grumbling in front of Ajabde, Choti Ma, and DB.

When did DB change so much and start praising MP over Jagmaal? If she continues in this vein, how will she later propose Jagmaal's name for the throne? 😆

The makers seem to have kept out unnecessary characters. Otherwise, by now, MP should have had other wives too. :) And he had over 2 dozen siblings, though thankfully we see only a few. Jagmaal seems to have not married at all.

Has Shakti Singh been introduced in the show? I think it was Rawatji and Amar Singh who informed US about Akbar's advancing army.

I also hope to see all the episodes at least till the Chittor track ends. :)

Thanks btw for sharing the links to previous episodes. :) When is the 3rd part of Chittor siege going to be published? Looking fwd to reading it.:)


Radhika, u seem to hv forgotten, I had updated on Abhay's blog that CVs surprisingly hv shown Dhirbai as a changed (genuinely) person.😕 I don't think we shall see any such scene of her proposing Jagmaal's name to the throne. I think he will join Akbar directly. Also previously, they hv shown quite irritatingly, Jagmaal wearing a saree n bindi, n ornaments very often, so I don't think they r going to marry him to anybody. 😆
It was Amar singh who first spots Akbar's army, while hunting in the forest. He confronts Akbar, fights one of his soldiers, hoodwinks the army n runs away on horse' 'back.
Radhika, Abhay, Bhai Shakti has died long back., when MP was played by the child artist, fr whatever reason 😡
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Last few episodes of MP, if anyone missed..



15th April 2015
[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ehmi7dZfoA[/YOUTUBE]



16th April 2015
[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVl5rFBKp1U[/YOUTUBE]


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Posted: 10 years ago
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*hein *. ...when did shakti singh die in the serial. ...as far as I know he was banished by udai singh n rawat ji then took him under his wings... 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek



Radhika,
Last episode was good for various reasons. It brought some thing to my mind. Let me share here. For Rajputs, war was like a "sport" . The best time for conducting wars(sport for them) according to them was the festival of Dusshera . A foreign traveller visiting India in 17th Century , makes a "general" statement about them, when they fight "such is the aggression that it appears they are drunk " .!! I don't remember the name of that traveller.

Radhika, Abhay i also watched some episodes MP.

Abhay, war was like a sport for Rajputs, or Radhika, people heroic deeds , they not afraiding, Akbar Army.

But one ques Why, Uday singh, is waiting for MP,
Is he own not full capable to defeat, Akbar?

Second Why Jagmal is too much fearing, from Akbar.

or Why udaysingh, not knowing, Akbar, mind planning some. He is thinking, fort, is on height, but why he not thinking, after killing horseman,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;its Akbar plan.

one more, here also is Akbar was feeling, super power experiences. because he was talking, Own & was feeling some.





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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kaku17

*hein *. ...when did shakti singh die in the serial. ...as far as I know he was banished by udai singh n rawat ji then took him under his wings... 😕


Exactly. He cannot be done away with. He has an imp role to play post Haldighati war, helping Maharana. How I wish Sakti stayed with Maharana throughout his life. US didn't know to raise children. Maharana was a boon to him.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kaana


Exactly. He cannot be done away with. He has an imp role to play post Haldighati war, helping Maharana. How I wish Sakti stayed with Maharana throughout his life. US didn't know to raise children. Maharana was a boon to him.


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Kaana I hv read somewhere that it was shakti singh who informs US about akbar's impending attack on chittor. ..n when akbar comes to know he was very angry with shakti singh as by that time he was in akbar's camp...here they showed amar singh n rawat ji giving news to US... 😕 ...US was a terrible father Imo...here in ghe serial they hv shown him to be very fond of mp n he being his fav son though i hv read somewhere that mp was brought up by his maternal grandfather akhey raj songara. ..jb Was so scared of mp getting assassinated (due to palace politics) n there4 mp's early life was with his maternal grandfather. ...US loved only bhatiyani or rather was totally enamoured by her...n there4 she does find a mention in the historical records...rajput records rarely mention any females unless they did something imp...rani padmini and rajmata karnawati finds mention as they lead the jauhar n bhatiyani because she manipulated us in to declaring jagmal the king...

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