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Posted: 12 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Pari117

hey its awesome that we share same feeling, i find many are obsessed to mughal culture but they couldnt watch an indian bravery kind of show, we prefer to immitate others forgetting what we ourselves are, i doubt if many cme here to support akbar 😆 but i find him one of the cruel too, they just imposed their culture on us, i think people cant imagine how indian rulers might have felt when some invaders captured their throne.. apne desh k ho k bhi ghulami kihai humne 🤢 but great directors try to emphasize on those rulers only rather than showing stories about our great india and its leaders!!!

you are right now others immitate us, and what we are doing??? we are leaving our tradition, dats really pitiful..

salute to ur grand pa, such people deserve the honor for what they have done to their country
but unfortunately we have forgotten everything in the midst of luxary 😭


Yes, the Mughals were cruel. BUT, their advancements did help India to an extent (way more than the British). I mean just look at the Taj Mahal, India gets so much popularity from that one attraction and it probably provides much revenue as well.

And regarding Akbar, he was actually one of the nicer Mughals. He let quite a few hindu's keep their religion. He wasn't as blind as his grandson, and didn't force people to convert or die. If anything, Akbar was just a lesser evil.

And honestly, I think the reason many people don't like to express their Indian-ness is because India has always been looked down on. Its pollution, slums, sexist problems, corruption, etc all contribute to its less than popular reputation. And it doesn't help that the government refuses to accept its fault and change. I feel like that just pushes people away.

And kudos to your grandfather. That is really amazing! And yes, I can't argue with you there. The fighters for India's freedom have really been denied the respect they deserve.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#12
Maharana Pratap is a very interesting show and we should all watch it 😊. Most of the people have started watching Jodhaa Akbar but that show is totally showcasing history in a wrong way ...Akbar was a very kind hearted person and he had married Halka Bai not Jodhaa ...Jodhaa was his daughter in law...I really like Maharana Pratap as the story is very inspiring and the actors in the show are fabulous...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: Pari117

hey its awesome that we share same feeling, i find many are obsessed to mughal culture but they couldnt watch an indian bravery kind of show, we prefer to immitate others forgetting what we ourselves are, i doubt if many cme here to support akbar 😆 but i find him one of the cruel too, they just imposed their culture on us, i think people cant imagine how indian rulers might have felt when some invaders captured their throne.. apne desh k ho k bhi ghulami kihai humne 🤢 but great directors try to emphasize on those rulers only rather than showing stories about our great india and its leaders!!!

you are right now others immitate us, and what we are doing??? we are leaving our tradition, dats really pitiful..

salute to ur grand pa, such people deserve the honor for what they have done to their country
but unfortunately we have forgotten everything in the midst of luxary 😭


yea my friend loves indian culture and she even made veg sabji once lol! (and she is white!)
Thanks, and the soldiers of India need a pay raise! Also the fallen soldiers (shahid) - their kids should get monetary help with education!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovely_lady


Yes, the Mughals were cruel. BUT, their advancements did help India to an extent (way more than the British). I mean just look at the Taj Mahal, India gets so much popularity from that one attraction and it probably provides much revenue as well.

And regarding Akbar, he was actually one of the nicer Mughals. He let quite a few hindu's keep their religion. He wasn't as blind as his grandson, and didn't force people to convert or die. If anything, Akbar was just a lesser evil.

And honestly, I think the reason many people don't like to express their Indian-ness is because India has always been looked down on. Its pollution, slums, sexist problems, corruption, etc all contribute to its less than popular reputation. And it doesn't help that the government refuses to accept its fault and change. I feel like that just pushes people away.

And kudos to your grandfather. That is really amazing! And yes, I can't argue with you there. The fighters for India's freedom have really been denied the respect they deserve.


I have my doubts on the origins of the Taj Mahal, as they never open the basement because it could cause unrest; Mughal or British they did bad, one destroyed and other stole and created false history and created rifts between people!! Of course they will do good things so that they can maintain their rule and so that people dont revolt.

Pollution is everywhere, there is poverty in most every country, and there are sexist issues everywhere; corruption happens everywhere (to a lesser or greater degree); What doesnt help is that educated people dont go and vote, that educated people dont have the guts to be the change that they want! That they dont have the courage to stand up to injustice! Never cause injustice and dont tolerate injustice (it says in the Gita!) People protest here for a few days but nothing like the independence movement of India! People hid printing shops in their houses to make pamphlets to encourage independence (my grandma's family did that). They had a printing press in their house, they never got caught even though the british raided their house like every week 😆
that is the kind of spirit that we need...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#15
Before starting I should say no offense to anyone.

Look I am JA and MRP lover but comparing MRP with JA makes no sense to me because JA is a historical lovestory whereas MRP is a biography of a great fighter.

In initial days of new program the story should be fast paced and interesting to attract audience. Look in JA within 2 months the marriage even happened whereas people were expecting it not before 6 months
And in MRP the story in not moving a bit since weeks. And that makes it boring for me.

Remember during the war how the TRPs climbed so high it was because of action and spice they added in it.

ANd I personally feel they should get MRP married now because an early age he was married and it would surely bring some more TRPs remember PRC.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: Arya75

Before starting I should say no offense to anyone.


Look I am JA and MRP lover but comparing MRP with JA makes no sense to me because JA is a historical lovestory whereas MRP is a biography of a great fighter.

In initial days of new program the story should be fast paced and interesting to attract audience. Look in JA within 2 months the marriage even happened whereas people were expecting it not before 6 months
And in MRP the story in not moving a bit since weeks. And that makes it boring for me.

Remember during the war how the TRPs climbed so high it was because of action and spice they added in it.

ANd I personally feel they should get MRP married now because an early age he was married and it would surely bring some more TRPs remember PRC.


Pratap needs to grow as warrior before he gets married after all its about his bravery and him being a great warrior whose tactics were used by the Marathas in weakening the Mughal raj
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Posted: 12 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: ratilal22192


Pratap needs to grow as warrior before he gets married after all its about his bravery and him being a great warrior whose tactics were used by the Marathas in weakening the Mughal raj


Look its India even a political thriller movie has some romance or that kind of thing and to make a serial to last long some spice is surely needed. There should be MRP's base making but not at the cost of TRP's. Dude that way the show will end.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: lovely_lady

I see where you are coming from.


But regarding this show, I don't think its that people aren't proud of their identity, but that this show can get really boring.
no, it isn't boring its actually our perception, if we pick out our life story it might seem boring but there is no need to add fake spices just to please audience, this story is about Maharana Pratap.. dats all. and i love the way they are showing face of true india

As an avid history lover, I find this show fascinating and love all the details about mundane life in those ages.
thanks a lot, we share same feelings then, the show fascinates me in every way and it is clear reflection of ancient india.

But many people aren't history lovers so they get bored seeing the mundane life. I remember during the war sequence, there was quite a bit of popularity for this show, but then as soon as the war ended and the show resumed normal Rajput life, it lost many followers. Some of them came back when Bhaatiyani's real face was revealed and she started plotting against Maharana Pratap.
that is my point, why cant we love history exactly the way it is??? why we need spicy story to keep ourselves hooked into it. doesnt it feels as if we are loosing the essence of tradition and culture

People enjoy watching dramatic, interesting things. The reason the saas-bahu dramas are so popular is because people enjoy watching that stuff. There's suspense. Most people watch television for mindless entertainment and for them, the dramatics are pleasing and a break from everyday normal, boring life. Indian television audiences, on a whole, don't like character development episodes. They prefer interesting, dramatic, never before seen kind of stuff. Even with English historical dramas, they make sure to add in as much spice and dramatics as possible, which contributes to the suspense, and hence many viewers.
thats now the point, we dont care about our origins, our roots, our culture, we care about entertainment!!! will it lead to anywhere? obviously No, we are getting detached from our sacrament

And yeah, I do agree that this show can be marketed better. It's promo's are severly lacking. But I feel that's the case with many Sony shows.
yes they should have advertised it, it would have attained interest then

And about the whole Indian's not appreciating Indian things, well personally, I think that due to the fact that Indians collectively don't have an identity. Well they might now, but during the earlier ages, they didn't. That's why it was so easy to conquer India. The Mughals, British, etc, didn't have to do anything, they just had to divide and rule, which was already made easy for them by the separation of Indian's ethnically. The Rajput's have their own standing (and even then all of them rarely cooperated together). The North and South have always been separated. It's only recently that Indian's all see themselves as the same.
this was sarcastic but real, even today we are persuing west.. there are lots of things which makes me feel that we need to grow, embrace ourselves first.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: lovely_lady

Yes, the Mughals were cruel. BUT, their advancements did help India to an extent (way more than the British). I mean just look at the Taj Mahal, India gets so much popularity from that one attraction and it probably provides much revenue as well.
you mentioned taj mahal, but do you know how many things they snatched away from india?? they took away everything from here, the kohinoor which belonged to india are snatched away by another group of people, there are thousands of examples

And regarding Akbar, he was actually one of the nicer Mughals. He let quite a few hindu's keep their religion. He wasn't as blind as his grandson, and didn't force people to convert or die. If anything, Akbar was just a lesser evil.
but he did convert a lot of hindus initially. though he was better but he did harmed us, we can not forget how he exploited women in harem 🤢

And honestly, I think the reason many people don't like to express their Indian-ness is because India has always been looked down on. Its pollution, slums, sexist problems, corruption, etc all contribute to its less than popular reputation. And it doesn't help that the government refuses to accept its fault and change. I feel like that just pushes people away.
dats what i said --- Are we PROUD of our identity???
i got my answer by this para

And kudos to your grandfather. That is really amazing! And yes, I can't argue with you there. The fighters for India's freedom have really been denied the respect they deserve.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: Delian01

Maharana Pratap is a very interesting show and we should all watch it 😊. Most of the people have started watching Jodhaa Akbar but that show is totally showcasing history in a wrong way ...Akbar was a very kind hearted person and he had married Halka Bai not Jodhaa ...Jodhaa was his daughter in law...I really like Maharana Pratap as the story is very inspiring and the actors in the show are fabulous...

yes that show is being spiced up by ekta's elements 👎🏼

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